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How will NIL changes affect CAA schools?
Thought y'all would find our most recent article interesting; while we go through how we think NIL laws will impact William & Mary, much of what we talk about holds true for fellow CAA (and really, mid-major / FCS) schools across the country.

Curious also to hear folks' thoughts on these boards about the NIL changes & how you think it'll impact schools in the CAA.

Article: https://wmsportsblog.com/2021/07/01/wm-a...-get-paid/
07-01-2021 07:11 PM
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(07-01-2021 07:11 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Thought y'all would find our most recent article interesting; while we go through how we think NIL laws will impact William & Mary, much of what we talk about holds true for fellow CAA (and really, mid-major / FCS) schools across the country.

Curious also to hear folks' thoughts on these boards about the NIL changes & how you think it'll impact schools in the CAA.

Article: https://wmsportsblog.com/2021/07/01/wm-a...-get-paid/

Off the top of my head, I don't know how this will impact NU athletes.

However, NU is in a pro sports town. So I really don't think there will be a rush of NU athletes looking to capitalize initially on NIL's. I mean you need someone to offer to compensate NU players and there's a gap between Boston College athletes and NU, BU, Harvard etc.

If any local Boston college athletes (i.e. Football, men's basketball and men's hockey) are going to get money for their NIL's first, it will be BC players.

But in Harrisonburg, Wilmington, Williamburg, etc I can see a slight impact at the outset.

That's my take...
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RE: How will NIL changes affect CAA schools?
Here's what worries me. There is no shortage of rich alums who would love to do whatever they can do to get recruits to sign with their beloved Alma Maters. Until now there were penalties in place (no tourney appearences, loss of scholarships, etc) Now there is a way around that. An unscrupulous coach, and yes, there are some out there, can say, "sign with us! The local Lexus dealer wants to pay you ten thousand to make a commercial."

This will be more prevalent at power five schools but the temptation will now be there at every level.

Last year there was a guard that would have been a great match for us.. His name was Staton-McCray.. He signed with Samford where a son of his high school coach was just made an assistant coach. This year a four star recruit from the same high school signed with Samford. The guy had top power five offers. Connect the dots. If I was a coach and wanted to have a bulletproof way to pay recruits this is how I would do it.

Sadly, it is now easier, not harder to buy recruits.
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RE: How will NIL changes affect CAA schools?
I agree with the points that have been made. I think this is real slippery slope where anyone can buy recruits for their schools and there is no system of checks and balances. It is the wild west now.

Certainly, the bigger schools will have an advantage over the smaller ones in terms of business opportunities. But even within conferences, location will matter. A star for UNCW (as an example) is much more "known" in the community than a star for NU. Similarly, a star in Chapel Hill is much more known than one who plays for UCLA. At UCLA, you are competing with legendary sports teams, Hollywood and many other things for attention.
07-02-2021 06:52 AM
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But wait, there’s more. I think the NCAA could have avoided this situation long ago. But as we know, they’re an ineffective, incredibly slow moving organization.

All along, I feel the athletes should have been to make money as long as it was truly an arm’s length transaction with consideration for both parties. I study business contracts for a living so I won’t go too far down this rabbit hole but I will give 2 examples. The female Fresno State twins should always have been able to make money from T Mobile (essentially for their followers). That is truly an arm’s length transaction meaning T Mobile doesn’t care if those girls go to Fresno, William and Mary, or Kentucky. Conversely, a car dealer in Lexington, Kentucky that signs a recruit point guard to a deal is clearly doing it only to direct that kid to Kentucky. Additionally, there is no consideration (benefit) on both ends. The kid makes money but the dealer knows he/she is not going to benefit in the amount they invested. It’s essentially a donation to the school’s athletic program to ai recruiting.

But all of this would assume the NCAA had an application process to review these deals in a very timely manner when we know they can’t even finish major investigations in less than a few years
07-02-2021 07:14 AM
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RE: How will NIL changes affect CAA schools?
(07-01-2021 08:37 PM)geewizNU Wrote:  
(07-01-2021 07:11 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Thought y'all would find our most recent article interesting; while we go through how we think NIL laws will impact William & Mary, much of what we talk about holds true for fellow CAA (and really, mid-major / FCS) schools across the country.

Curious also to hear folks' thoughts on these boards about the NIL changes & how you think it'll impact schools in the CAA.

Article: https://wmsportsblog.com/2021/07/01/wm-a...-get-paid/

Off the top of my head, I don't know how this will impact NU athletes.

However, NU is in a pro sports town. So I really don't think there will be a rush of NU athletes looking to capitalize initially on NIL's. I mean you need someone to offer to compensate NU players and there's a gap between Boston College athletes and NU, BU, Harvard etc.

If any local Boston college athletes (i.e. Football, men's basketball and men's hockey) are going to get money for their NIL's first, it will be BC players.

But in Harrisonburg, Wilmington, Williamburg, etc I can see a slight impact at the outset.

That's my take...

True, but if specific athletes at NU boast impressive social media followings, there's no reason why either a national or local brand wouldn't be interested in partnering with them on either national or local social media campaigns. I think social media is the great equalizer here that people need to think more about.
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(07-02-2021 07:14 AM)NUFan35 Wrote:  But wait, there’s more. I think the NCAA could have avoided this situation long ago. But as we know, they’re an ineffective, incredibly slow moving organization.

All along, I feel the athletes should have been to make money as long as it was truly an arm’s length transaction with consideration for both parties. I study business contracts for a living so I won’t go too far down this rabbit hole but I will give 2 examples. The female Fresno State twins should always have been able to make money from T Mobile (essentially for their followers). That is truly an arm’s length transaction meaning T Mobile doesn’t care if those girls go to Fresno, William and Mary, or Kentucky. Conversely, a car dealer in Lexington, Kentucky that signs a recruit point guard to a deal is clearly doing it only to direct that kid to Kentucky. Additionally, there is no consideration (benefit) on both ends. The kid makes money but the dealer knows he/she is not going to benefit in the amount they invested. It’s essentially a donation to the school’s athletic program to ai recruiting.

But all of this would assume the NCAA had an application process to review these deals in a very timely manner when we know they can’t even finish major investigations in less than a few years

Interesting points & agreed. I really do think that the P-5 needs to break away and form a super league; the ultra rich are now that much richer than everyone else -- and the gap will continue to widen with the NIL change.

It just doesn't make sense to have P-5 "semi pro" athletes competing against traditional student athletes of the FCS / mid-major schools.
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RE: How will NIL changes affect CAA schools?
Interesting points & agreed. I really do think that the P-5 needs to break away and form a super league; the ultra rich are now that much richer than everyone else -- and the gap will continue to widen with the NIL change.

It just doesn't make sense to have P-5 "semi pro" athletes competing against traditional student athletes of the FCS / mid-major schools.
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The more I think about it the more I think you are right.

The big conferences run NCAA basketball. Every recent rule change benefits them and hurts mid majors. Without getting into the argument about "Is a free education an appropriate tradeoff for restrictions on freedom of movement for players" where does the current trend take us? First...grad students can transfer without sitting out....then if your coach leaves.....then a one year Covid "everyone can transfer".....now everyone can transfer once without sitting.

So what's next? Maybe, "Why should players be limited to one transfer?" Or, "These teams are now so weak let's get rid of half (or all) automatic NCAA tourney bids?"

I'm on board with hoping P-5 teams leave and form a "semi pro" conference.
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