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Rocky Lombardi got paid to post a promotional tweet for a MSU podcast that is doing their next episode on last years win over Michigan. Probably wasn't much $ but getting paid for a single tweet from a fanbase you don't even rep anymore is a good day if you ask me lol
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(07-01-2021 01:24 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  Rocky Lombardi got paid to post a promotional tweet for a MSU podcast that is doing their next episode on last years win over Michigan. Probably wasn't much $ but getting paid for a single tweet from a fanbase you don't even rep anymore is a good day if you ask me lol

Oh great…

Look, I’m thrilled Rocky chose us but I’m thinking his success last year vs MU will not bode well for the Huskies when we visit Ann Arbor in September.
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(06-30-2021 02:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(06-30-2021 02:50 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  Maybe someone knows the answer(s), but just wondering how the Illinois law and NCAA-approved NIL affect NIU's ability/use of a student-athlete's NIL in connections with its teams and programs. If a student-athlete gets an NIL with a company or other private entity, does that mean any "exclusive" NIL deal prohibits or restricts Huskie athletics? If you know, please explain.

Also, does the NIL apply to non-athlete students when the NIU Foundation, programs, colleges, etc., make videos and other promotions including students?

When I sit in Huskie Stadium, I represent a supporter of the team and university. If my image is shown on TV (or ESPN3/+), am I entitled to compensation for the use of my image in such support?

No. I believe your ticket mentions it. Or at least when they had hard tickets.

Funny note, I am a Bears season ticket holder with my brother. Front row. On their homepage years ago, they had a cover picture of fans 1st few rows. They took our pics, or likeness, and we were in it. I say likeness because it was our faces, bodies but not jerseys/caps we owned. Actually, looked similar but they switched hats! And the people in pic around us, were not our fellow season ticket holders. It was very strange.
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(07-01-2021 11:32 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Social Media is where the money is. Anybody on our women's basketball team signing up?

https://wwsnt-female-athletes-benefit-103459408.html

UConn star freshman Paige Bueckers led the way with 730,000 combined Twitter and Instagram followers that translated to an estimated value of $382,000. Louisville freshman guard Hailey Van Lith stood to make the most at an estimated $965,000.

Any athlete with a large social media following can monetize their value now through sponsorships and ads. Basketball stars are only the tip of it as multiple gymnasts have gone viral in recent years and built strong social followings.

Yup. And she will definitely get other deals. But who is to say a player can't be offered $ to basically switch schools?

Another item people don't talk about is discrepancy in types of sport, even men vs. women. Seems that the field as far as $ won't be even. I thought the NCAA was so adamant about all "student" athletes being treated the same. Seems not.
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NIL is free market, not Title IX or TIX regulation by the NCAA.

What concerns me is how non-student athletes and their parents/families are going to react to some of these deals on top of scholarships and the NCAA-allowed cost-of-attendance allowance. Nobody/not many are talking about this in relation to NIL.

The COAA was enacted because the combination of time required for academics and athletics means student-athletes cannot work part-time jobs like other students. So if a student-athlete gets $$ from NIL, do they lose their COAA? How would that be managed/monitored?

Anyway, the NIU BofTrustees has approved a per-credit-hour athletic fee of $32.89 for the coming year (same as last year). It is charged up to 12 credit hours, meaning a max per-semester fee of $394.68 and a full-year cost (2 semesters) of $789.36. That's $3,158.72 over four years (with no fee changes). For this, students get "free" admission. (Thank the heavens NIU does not rely on student ticket purchases.)

Also, recall that the P5 schools with big TV contracts charge little or no athletic fee, while the G5 and others use their fees to cover from 20% to 70% of their athletic budgets. I recall NIU's is just above 30%.

I'm all for NIL, but let's not ignore those other dark clouds out there. There's been a lot of social and sports media hoopla about college costs, student loans, etc.
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(07-01-2021 11:32 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Social Media is where the money is. Anybody on our women's basketball team signing up?

https://wwsnt-female-athletes-benefit-103459408.html

UConn star freshman Paige Bueckers led the way with 730,000 combined Twitter and Instagram followers that translated to an estimated value of $382,000. Louisville freshman guard Hailey Van Lith stood to make the most at an estimated $965,000.

Any athlete with a large social media following can monetize their value now through sponsorships and ads. Basketball stars are only the tip of it as multiple gymnasts have gone viral in recent years and built strong social followings.

This is gonna be a big part of the equation. Social media prowess. The Cavinder twins from Fresno state’s women’s B-Ball team have 4 million media followers. Signed two big deals already on day 1.
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(07-01-2021 04:21 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  NIL is free market, not Title IX or TIX regulation by the NCAA.

What concerns me is how non-student athletes and their parents/families are going to react to some of these deals on top of scholarships and the NCAA-allowed cost-of-attendance allowance. Nobody/not many are talking about this in relation to NIL.

The COAA was enacted because the combination of time required for academics and athletics means student-athletes cannot work part-time jobs like other students. So if a student-athlete gets $$ from NIL, do they lose their COAA? How would that be managed/monitored?

Anyway, the NIU BofTrustees has approved a per-credit-hour athletic fee of $32.89 for the coming year (same as last year). It is charged up to 12 credit hours, meaning a max per-semester fee of $394.68 and a full-year cost (2 semesters) of $789.36. That's $3,158.72 over four years (with no fee changes). For this, students get "free" admission. (Thank the heavens NIU does not rely on student ticket purchases.)

Also, recall that the P5 schools with big TV contracts charge little or no athletic fee, while the G5 and others use their fees to cover from 20% to 70% of their athletic budgets. I recall NIU's is just above 30%.

I'm all for NIL, but let's not ignore those other dark clouds out there. There's been a lot of social and sports media hoopla about college costs, student loans, etc.

It would make sense to me to set up a system where depending on how much the student makes from NIL they have to give back a fair amount of scholarship and cost of living money.
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(07-01-2021 04:21 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  NIL is free market, not Title IX or TIX regulation by the NCAA.

What concerns me is how non-student athletes and their parents/families are going to react to some of these deals on top of scholarships and the NCAA-allowed cost-of-attendance allowance. Nobody/not many are talking about this in relation to NIL.

The COAA was enacted because the combination of time required for academics and athletics means student-athletes cannot work part-time jobs like other students. So if a student-athlete gets $$ from NIL, do they lose their COAA? How would that be managed/monitored?

Anyway, the NIU BofTrustees has approved a per-credit-hour athletic fee of $32.89 for the coming year (same as last year). It is charged up to 12 credit hours, meaning a max per-semester fee of $394.68 and a full-year cost (2 semesters) of $789.36. That's $3,158.72 over four years (with no fee changes). For this, students get "free" admission. (Thank the heavens NIU does not rely on student ticket purchases.)

Also, recall that the P5 schools with big TV contracts charge little or no athletic fee, while the G5 and others use their fees to cover from 20% to 70% of their athletic budgets. I recall NIU's is just above 30%.

I'm all for NIL, but let's not ignore those other dark clouds out there. There's been a lot of social and sports media hoopla about college costs, student loans, etc.

My daughter just started at an SEC school. True no Athletic Fee, but to get Student Football tickets is about the same as NIU's Fee.
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(06-29-2021 11:34 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Just my opinion, but I do not see any marketing viability for any NIU player - especially coming off a 0-6 season. Unless there is a standout player somewhere, I see the same fate for the rest of the MAC (and other smaller conferences).

You might see lots of local endorsements for college players at almost every college (pizza places, car dealerships, etc.). The compensation might be in the hundreds of dollars or free goods and services.

I believe that while players should be getting a bigger share of the money generated by college b-ball and f-ball, it's being done reactively in too short a time frame with no study (How are the lineman who aren't stars going to feel about their teammates making loads of money, doing TV appearances, etc.?) as to the long-term effects.

I see college football as it exists today collapsing in three years and a super conference or a couple of super divisions being created so Alabama, OSU, Texas and a dozen other schools can beat up on a few dozen greedy wannabe schools, helping the big boys make billions.

What a mess.
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A few bucks here and there for local radio and TV spots may not be a big deal. Picture a G5 or P5 team though if one or two players are making 7 figures with Nike, while the rest of the team is averaging less than 3k/season/player. Limits, guidelines and protections are needed.

I read somewhere that a payment must be in-line industry-wise for the ad, i.e. no 80k payouts to do a local Ford Dealership commercial? Thats a start.
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I just don’t like this. Without significant controls in place, it opens the door for graft and fraud. And if there is the slightest opportunity for this, you know it will happen.
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(07-01-2021 05:43 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(07-01-2021 11:32 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Social Media is where the money is. Anybody on our women's basketball team signing up?

https://wwsnt-female-athletes-benefit-103459408.html

UConn star freshman Paige Bueckers led the way with 730,000 combined Twitter and Instagram followers that translated to an estimated value of $382,000. Louisville freshman guard Hailey Van Lith stood to make the most at an estimated $965,000.

Any athlete with a large social media following can monetize their value now through sponsorships and ads. Basketball stars are only the tip of it as multiple gymnasts have gone viral in recent years and built strong social followings.

This is gonna be a big part of the equation. Social media prowess. The Cavinder twins from Fresno state’s women’s B-Ball team have 4 million media followers. Signed two big deals already on day 1.

Yes....all academics and helping community!!! Barstool Sports is at least not hiding their intent, or shall I say content .
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3372...inc-so-far

(Side note... was a fan of Lauren Burke of TX softball prior to this.....she posted barstool stuff on her Instagram)



And rappers son $2 million at a historically black college. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...see-state/

Did anyone really think the NCAA could control any of this? This is only the beginning. Amateur sports outside of college teams died years ago with paid athletes in the olympics. This will be the death of college sports from a competitive aspect. Kids won’t even care about staying in school any more.
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(07-03-2021 04:15 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
(07-01-2021 05:43 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(07-01-2021 11:32 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Social Media is where the money is. Anybody on our women's basketball team signing up?

https://wwsnt-female-athletes-benefit-103459408.html

UConn star freshman Paige Bueckers led the way with 730,000 combined Twitter and Instagram followers that translated to an estimated value of $382,000. Louisville freshman guard Hailey Van Lith stood to make the most at an estimated $965,000.

Any athlete with a large social media following can monetize their value now through sponsorships and ads. Basketball stars are only the tip of it as multiple gymnasts have gone viral in recent years and built strong social followings.

This is gonna be a big part of the equation. Social media prowess. The Cavinder twins from Fresno state’s women’s B-Ball team have 4 million media followers. Signed two big deals already on day 1.

Yes....all academics and helping community!!! Barstool Sports is at least not hiding their intent, or shall I say content .
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3372...inc-so-far

(Side note... was a fan of Lauren Burke of TX softball prior to this.....she posted barstool stuff on her Instagram)



And rappers son $2 million at a historically black college. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basket...see-state/

Did anyone really think the NCAA could control any of this? This is only the beginning. Amateur sports outside of college teams died years ago with paid athletes in the olympics. This will be the death of college sports from a competitive aspect. Kids won’t even care about staying in school any more.

DogFan better check out the link for barstools. A lot of skin in the game. The ladies know how to get the hits on social media.
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(06-30-2021 08:55 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(06-30-2021 08:05 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(06-30-2021 07:29 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  Lets be realistic the P5 will toss players they don't want and recruit new ones each year. NIU will be plucked each year. The option will be to take on the P5 cast aways each year from the portal. Remember the scholarship is only 1 year deal, so produce or be cast aside. NCAA has been pretty much neutered, so no one will be looking out for the players at all. This is nirvana for the P5. Really the death of college sports for me to be honest. The top 10% college players will get rich, and a huge number will be cast out and not even get an education now. I will not be watching as this unfolds.

If thats the case we should have access to a decent pool of castaways each season, guessing quality difference between P5 and G5 won't change much, just more player rotation. At the end of the day sounds like status quo, better situation for the top 10% of college football players, maybe worse experience for the rest.

I foresee massive rotations of the players. The guy who has the safest job is the guy who lubricates the revolving door. Another secure job is the person who updates the rosters. That will be a full-time and overtime position.

Hey! I could do that roster update gig. Even with some medical issues, I could do that. I'd also be willing to work with lubricants, although I would always defer to Dog Fan in that regard. Being the patron and aficionado of the Grotto that he was, I couldn't possibly hold a candle to his talent.
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The only good thing to come about with NIL is watching the Crying Illini fan base melt down after losing their best player to the Transfer Portal for potential NIL deals, if he does not stay in the draft. Took 40 years, but I finally got my Kenny Battle payback. Love to see it when things you have done come back to bite you at some point. I will savior this one for a few weeks at least.
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Has anybody from NIU received an offer using Name, Image, Likeness?
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Yes. The above mentioned Rocky Lombardi deal. Several players have deals with barstool sports. True freshman PWO Mason Blakemore has a deal with a gaming company and bodyarmour for pple to pay to play against him in video games.
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(07-02-2021 05:08 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I just don’t like this. Without significant controls in place, it opens the door for graft and fraud. And if there is the slightest opportunity for this, you know it will happen.

Agree with you on this plus I hope the schools or someone is advising these athletes on what to do at tax time. Even if it's only a deal with a local pizza place (Vinny's, Pizza Villa, etc.), there's a value that equates to income and you know if the government has a chance to grab money, it will happen.
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This is going to be the greatest disaster ever unleashed on college sports with the serious potential to destroy college sports. Wait until all of the sleazy, un-ethical and criminal elements get involved. When student athletes get offers from sleazy used car dealerships, massage parlors, the Grotto or its equivalent in DeKalb (Lovers Playground), sleazy bars, tattoo parlors, strip clubs, marijuana shops and bail bond companies. All are legal in Illinois which would make them hard not to allow endorsement deals. Broke college athletes will not turn down good endorsement money, especially from sponsors willing to pay. Casinos may not be able to endorse but I bet you that the myriad of small video poker and slot machine places can because they do not have sports betting.

To prove this, look at the Ohio State scandal that got Jim Tressel fired. Players were hanging out at a tattoo parlor loaded with booze and drugs that had a US Department of Justice wiretap because of its involvement in organized crime and drug dealing. They were selling player owned items there along with other not good activities. Wait until they get sponsorship deals and are hanging out there! The sale of their items may be legal but the other thins going on there would not be.

I hope for the integrity of college sports, this dumb idea is stopped before it does serious damage!!!
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(07-13-2021 10:15 PM)The Huskie Wrote:  This is going to be the greatest disaster ever unleashed on college sports with the serious potential to destroy college sports. Wait until all of the sleazy, un-ethical and criminal elements get involved. When student athletes get offers from sleazy used car dealerships, massage parlors, the Grotto or its equivalent in DeKalb (Lovers Playground), sleazy bars, tattoo parlors, strip clubs, marijuana shops and bail bond companies. All are legal in Illinois which would make them hard not to allow endorsement deals. Broke college athletes will not turn down good endorsement money, especially from sponsors willing to pay. Casinos may not be able to endorse but I bet you that the myriad of small video poker and slot machine places can because they do not have sports betting.

To prove this, look at the Ohio State scandal that got Jim Tressel fired. Players were hanging out at a tattoo parlor loaded with booze and drugs that had a US Department of Justice wiretap because of its involvement in organized crime and drug dealing. They were selling player owned items there along with other not good activities. Wait until they get sponsorship deals and are hanging out there! The sale of their items may be legal but the other thins going on there would not be.

I hope for the integrity of college sports, this dumb idea is stopped before it does serious damage!!!

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