(07-02-2021 05:24 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-27-2021 08:50 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-27-2021 05:50 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Not in the NBA but getting paid to play a child’s game

Child’s game? You try dragging Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

How would you know? You never had to drag anyone close to them. The only thing you ever dragged for 45 minutes on the court was your ass. You might have dragged me down that kids driveway in Scenic Hills where we used to have those pickup games.

Child, please.

(07-02-2021 08:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

There is a name for Athletic 6'10 guys who can shoot and handle...

We call them all-stars

Name for skilled and athletic 6'10 guys in college...Lottery picks.

Joey Dorsey played in the league for 4 years.

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:08 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I’ve watched plenty of NBA and Moussa doesn’t have the talent to be there. Period. I’m not sure what NBA teams you are watching but he isn’t even close to being at that level.

It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

Agree.

That's why if I'm his "people" I push him back to Memphis. He has a much better chance of being incorporated into an offense here, especially with the rest of the summer to work with the guys with whom he has a decent rapport.

Go anywhere else for college and he starts a ground zero.

I agree that the would get caught in the undertow in the G League and it would harm him.

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

55% from the field and 1.6 turnovers per game for a high school senior. At the same age he is for sure ahead of many current solid NBA players. He also barely even knows how to play. He should make major strides this year and I'm sure he is going to improve on his free throws.

For all of his flaws, averaging a double double is very possible if he can improve on his free throws.

Just curious, is this Tiger related?

(07-02-2021 01:08 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Just curious, is this Tiger related?

Good question. Is posting about Norvell's recruiting class Tiger related?

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

Of course they are light years ahead of him, most are NBA veterans and he is just a college freshman (age wise). Michael Jordan at 28 was light years ahead of Michael Jordan at 18... Kobe Bryant was terrible his first two or three years in the NBA and was light years ahead of that by year 8.

It is nonsensical to compare him to NBA veterans and claim he is not as good. Duh, that is not the argument. I am simply pointing out that if he can develop his skills to go along with his incredible athletic ability and length then there is a place in the NBA for a center like him (defense, rebounding and rim running). Ala, he does not need to be able to dribble, pass and knock down threes to be an NBA center.

(07-02-2021 01:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

Of course they are light years ahead of him, most are NBA veterans and he is just a college freshman (age wise). Michael Jordan at 28 was light years ahead of Michael Jordan at 18... Kobe Bryant was terrible his first two or three years in the NBA and was light years ahead of that by year 8.

It is nonsensical to compare him to NBA veterans and claim he is not as good. Duh, that is not the argument. I am simply pointing out that if he can develop his skills to go along with his incredible athletic ability and length then there is a place in the NBA for a center like him (defense, rebounding and rim running). Ala, he does not need to be able to dribble, pass and knock down threes to be an NBA center.

You’re watching 1970s NBA if you think Moussa has the skill to become an NBA player. The guy can’t dribble or hit a shot outside 3 feet. Hell, he can’t even catch a pass. I honestly hope he makes it big, I’d love to see it whether or not he ever suits up again at Memphis. But there are plenty of guys his size around the world that can make a free throw. And plenty that can knock down threes too. And many are incredible passers. It’s a different game now and has been for some time.

Anything is possible, but I’d say it’s a huge long shot for him to make an NBA team.

(07-02-2021 02:26 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 01:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

Of course they are light years ahead of him, most are NBA veterans and he is just a college freshman (age wise). Michael Jordan at 28 was light years ahead of Michael Jordan at 18... Kobe Bryant was terrible his first two or three years in the NBA and was light years ahead of that by year 8.

It is nonsensical to compare him to NBA veterans and claim he is not as good. Duh, that is not the argument. I am simply pointing out that if he can develop his skills to go along with his incredible athletic ability and length then there is a place in the NBA for a center like him (defense, rebounding and rim running). Ala, he does not need to be able to dribble, pass and knock down threes to be an NBA center.

You’re watching 1970s NBA if you think Moussa has the skill to become an NBA player. The guy can’t dribble or hit a shot outside 3 feet. Hell, he can’t even catch a pass. I honestly hope he makes it big, I’d love to see it whether or not he ever suits up again at Memphis. But there are plenty of guys his size around the world that can make a free throw. And plenty that can knock down threes too. It’s a different game now and has been for some time.

Anything is possible, but I’d say it’s a huge long shot for him to make an NBA team.

You can't seem to get it into your head, that he was a high school senior, no matter how much it is explained to you. You have the weirdo opinion that he has reached his full potential.

He is super athletic and already an elite level rim protector. Making an NBA roster is almost a lock.

(07-02-2021 02:33 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 02:26 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 01:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

Of course they are light years ahead of him, most are NBA veterans and he is just a college freshman (age wise). Michael Jordan at 28 was light years ahead of Michael Jordan at 18... Kobe Bryant was terrible his first two or three years in the NBA and was light years ahead of that by year 8.

It is nonsensical to compare him to NBA veterans and claim he is not as good. Duh, that is not the argument. I am simply pointing out that if he can develop his skills to go along with his incredible athletic ability and length then there is a place in the NBA for a center like him (defense, rebounding and rim running). Ala, he does not need to be able to dribble, pass and knock down threes to be an NBA center.

You’re watching 1970s NBA if you think Moussa has the skill to become an NBA player. The guy can’t dribble or hit a shot outside 3 feet. Hell, he can’t even catch a pass. I honestly hope he makes it big, I’d love to see it whether or not he ever suits up again at Memphis. But there are plenty of guys his size around the world that can make a free throw. And plenty that can knock down threes too. It’s a different game now and has been for some time.

Anything is possible, but I’d say it’s a huge long shot for him to make an NBA team.

You can't seem to get it into your head, that he was a high school senior, no matter how much it is explained to you. You have the weirdo opinion that he has reached his full potential.

He is super athletic and already an elite level rim protector. Making an NBA roster is almost a lock.

I get it dude. He’s young but he has no offensive game. He’ll improve but his skills are so poor he’ll most likely never get to a point that he’s not an offensive detriment. He doesn’t have NBA skills. Period.

It’s not that I’m somehow against the guy. I’m not, I hope he has a long and lucrative NBA career, but there just isn’t anyway he has the skills to get there. There are just too many skilled athletes and not enough roster spots.

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:08 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I’ve watched plenty of NBA and Moussa doesn’t have the talent to be there. Period. I’m not sure what NBA teams you are watching but he isn’t even close to being at that level.

It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Yeah you don’t watch the NBA much. Most of those guys have more in their offensive arsenal than just dunks.

(07-02-2021 08:32 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 09:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

He is for sure much better than 10 NBA centers were during their senior year of high school. Some of our fans go into hysterics if our players aren't superstars their freshman seasons.

That’s not the question, is it?
There aren’t 10 rotational Centers currently whose only offensive game is getting a lob and dunking the ball. I have no qualms about Moussa…he has time to develop. My only comment in this thread has been about a post that states that there are a bunch of Centers in current NBA that only catches lobs and dunks the ball and has no other offensive game.

Of course there are. There are 12 centers in the top 100 scorers. Many of them do exactly that and earn a good living in the league for many years. Most of them were less advanced than Cisse is right now, at the same age. So when someone like you goes into hysterics making a nonsensical comparison between a high schooler and an NBA player, that is exactly the question.

Dude…never went into comparisons. My response was specifically to the post about most NBA centers being just dunkers with no other offensive game. Show me where I mentioned anything about Moussa not developing. I get it…you are not bright enough to keep up with various conversations. Next time, ignore my post and move on.

(07-02-2021 02:26 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 01:44 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 12:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Everyone of those players are light years ahead of Moussa. Yes he’s young, but is so incredibly unskilled. He can’t catch the ball or shoot outside of 3 feet. And he missed a lot of those.

He’d get abused in the G league now. And he wants to declare for the draft? Again, an NBA team may take a flyer on him, but he just doesn’t have the skill to make a roster.

I think he will make a decent living overseas with his size, but that’s his cap. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that…

Of course they are light years ahead of him, most are NBA veterans and he is just a college freshman (age wise). Michael Jordan at 28 was light years ahead of Michael Jordan at 18... Kobe Bryant was terrible his first two or three years in the NBA and was light years ahead of that by year 8.

It is nonsensical to compare him to NBA veterans and claim he is not as good. Duh, that is not the argument. I am simply pointing out that if he can develop his skills to go along with his incredible athletic ability and length then there is a place in the NBA for a center like him (defense, rebounding and rim running). Ala, he does not need to be able to dribble, pass and knock down threes to be an NBA center.

You’re watching 1970s NBA if you think Moussa has the skill to become an NBA player. The guy can’t dribble or hit a shot outside 3 feet. Hell, he can’t even catch a pass. I honestly hope he makes it big, I’d love to see it whether or not he ever suits up again at Memphis. But there are plenty of guys his size around the world that can make a free throw. And plenty that can knock down threes too. And many are incredible passers. It’s a different game now and has been for some time.

Anything is possible, but I’d say it’s a huge long shot for him to make an NBA team.

I agree with you about him making an NBA team if you qualify that with THIS YEAR.

Smart move:

(07-02-2021 03:06 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 07:46 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:59 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 01:17 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  It’s surprising cuz quite a few ppl believe that like the poster you replied to. As a big in today’s NBA, you have to have great hands, know how to dribble and have more in the offensive arsenal than just dunks.

No, you really do not. I can think of at least 10 NBA centers off the top of my head that play decent minutes that have very little offensive game outside of catching lobs and dunking. But they are great defensively, long, athletic and can rebound.

There is absolutely no reason that Moussa cannot develop into that type of NBA center. NBA centers tend to go one of two ways in today's NBA. They are the type described above or they are the Marc Gasol/Brooke Lopez type that are on the court to stretch the defense out.

You are thinking of players like Joel Embid and The Joker but those are your elite level centers that can do it all offensively but are by far the exception.

Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

Clint Capela
Nerlens Noel
Andre Drummond
Mitchell Robinson
Robert Williams III
DeAndre Jordan
Willie Cauley-Stein
JaVale McGee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Moses Brown
Dwight Howard at this point

Those are all players log legitimate minutes in rotations. There are several more that still pretty limited offensively. And when you start looking at the end of NBA benches there are several project big men that are very raw.

Yeah you don’t watch the NBA much. Most of those guys have more in their offensive arsenal than just dunks.

Really? Please expound...

Which of them is consistently knocking down 15+ jumpers? Which of them is consistently posting up as an offensive threat? Which of them has a consistent turn around shot or consistent hook shot? Which of them is pulling down a defensive rebound and going to coast to coast with it?

Clint Capela - 168 dunks - 26% of his total shots - 16th highest % in NBA - 71% of shots at the rim
Nerlens Noel - 76 dunks - 39% of his total shots - 4th highest % in NBA - 69% of shots at the rim
Andre Drummond - 58% of shots at the rim
Mitchell Robinson - 69% of shots at the rim
Robert Williams III - 93 dunks - 38.8% of his total shots - 5th highest % in NBA - 64.3% of shots at the rim
DeAndre Jordan - 137 dunks - 61% of total shots - 1st highest % in NBA - 88% of shots at the rim
Willie Cauley-Stein - 53 dunks 36.3% of total shots - 6th highest % in NBA - 79% of shots at the rim
JaVale McGee - 67.5% of shots at the rim
Dewayne Dedmon - 83% of shots at the rim
Robin Lopez - 70% of shots inside of 3 feet
Moses Brown - 62.5% of shots at the rim
Dwight Howard at this point - 85 dunks - 31.7% of total shots - 10% highest % in NBA - 67% of shots at the rim

But tell me more about their expansive offensive games... At the rim is inside of 3 feet...

(07-02-2021 03:57 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Smart move:

I wonder what we did to make him hate Memphis so much that he's not willing to come back. Maybe we didn't have a slot for his brother as a package deal?

(07-02-2021 03:09 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 08:32 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 09:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Alright, name at least current 10 NBA centers that are rotation players, don’t know how to dribble and all they do is catch lobs and dunk. You obviously don’t watch much of today’s NBA.

He is for sure much better than 10 NBA centers were during their senior year of high school. Some of our fans go into hysterics if our players aren't superstars their freshman seasons.

That’s not the question, is it?
There aren’t 10 rotational Centers currently whose only offensive game is getting a lob and dunking the ball. I have no qualms about Moussa…he has time to develop. My only comment in this thread has been about a post that states that there are a bunch of Centers in current NBA that only catches lobs and dunks the ball and has no other offensive game.

Of course there are. There are 12 centers in the top 100 scorers. Many of them do exactly that and earn a good living in the league for many years. Most of them were less advanced than Cisse is right now, at the same age. So when someone like you goes into hysterics making a nonsensical comparison between a high schooler and an NBA player, that is exactly the question.

Dude…never went into comparisons. My response was specifically to the post about most NBA centers being just dunkers with no other offensive game. Show me where I mentioned anything about Moussa not developing. I get it…you are not bright enough to keep up with various conversations. Next time, ignore my post and move on.

Your argument is stupid. 99.9% of all recruits aren't ready for the NBA when they are high school seniors. All of them develop. What you are saying is stupid.

(07-02-2021 04:11 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 03:09 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-02-2021 08:32 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 09:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(07-01-2021 08:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  He is for sure much better than 10 NBA centers were during their senior year of high school. Some of our fans go into hysterics if our players aren't superstars their freshman seasons.

That’s not the question, is it?
There aren’t 10 rotational Centers currently whose only offensive game is getting a lob and dunking the ball. I have no qualms about Moussa…he has time to develop. My only comment in this thread has been about a post that states that there are a bunch of Centers in current NBA that only catches lobs and dunks the ball and has no other offensive game.

Of course there are. There are 12 centers in the top 100 scorers. Many of them do exactly that and earn a good living in the league for many years. Most of them were less advanced than Cisse is right now, at the same age. So when someone like you goes into hysterics making a nonsensical comparison between a high schooler and an NBA player, that is exactly the question.

Dude…never went into comparisons. My response was specifically to the post about most NBA centers being just dunkers with no other offensive game. Show me where I mentioned anything about Moussa not developing. I get it…you are not bright enough to keep up with various conversations. Next time, ignore my post and move on.

Your argument is stupid. 99.9% of all recruits aren't ready for the NBA when they are high school seniors. All of them develop. What you are saying is stupid.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are spouting nonsense at this point. You have comprehension problems and there’s no way to fix that at your ripe old age.

(07-02-2021 03:57 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Smart move:

Stammers had him slotted as a lottery pick…. Lol