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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-27-2021 09:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote: (06-26-2021 02:52 PM)shere khan Wrote: (06-26-2021 12:16 PM)Kandy Atz Wrote: (06-25-2021 07:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I'll add the other non-power teams to usffan's list [AAC in bold]...
8 - Cincinnati
23 - Louisiana
24 - Coastal Carolina
30 - C. Florida
31 - Boise St
36 - Liberty
37 - Nevada
51 - BYU
52 - SJSU
55 - Appy St
61 - Houston
63 - SMU
64 - Tulane
65 - Tulsa
67 - UAB
69 - Fresno St
70 - UTSA
71 - Toledo
72 - Ball St
74 - Memphis
80 - Army
81 - Wyoming
82 - Air Force
84 - Marshall
85 - SDSU
87 - Ohio
88 - ECU
89 - Navy
92 - Miami, OH
93 - Western Michigan
94 - Buffalo
96 - Hawaii
97 - FAU
98 - Georgia St
99 - WKU
100 - Kent St
101 - South Florida
102 - Louisiana Tech
103 - Colorado St
104 - Charlotte
105 - Central Michigan
106 - Troy
107 - Georgia Southern
108 - Arkansas St
109 - Southern Miss
110 - New Mexico
111 - Eastern Michigan
112 - North Texas
113 - Rice
114 - Texas St
116 - Utah St
117 - MTSU
118 - Temple
119 - South Alabama
120 - UNLV
121 - FIU
122 - NIU
123 - UTEP
124 - ODU
125 - Akron
126 - UConn
127 - ULM
128 - BGSU
129 - UMass
130 - NMSU
Too Low - SMU, Memphis, and Tulsa
Too High - Houston
Not sure how UH jumps from a 3-5 finish to #3 in the conference. Has the roster changed that much?
The only way you rank SMU this low is if you believe the QB play this year will be worse than last year. Otherwise, they return most of their starters and have a ton of quality depth added via the transfer portal. Between Mordechai and Stone, SMU will have a decent QB by the time conference play starts.
I'm not as familiar with what is happening with Tulsa and Memphis, but I can't imagine either dropping this much.
Its hard to imagine with the improvement that has come in the AAC that only 2 teams would make the top 50.
Athlon. Making college football fans chuckle for decades.
Memphis won 5 games by 3 or less points with arguably its best qb in history that is now gone. Got manhandled by Tulane. Beat UCF due to a missed fg. Beat USF by one point. Didnt belong on the field with Cincy.
Poor coaching and lost key talent. Honestly they may be too high
Derp derp…..those BLM stickers still have you triggered.
Our OL sucked as did our running game. There was no balance attack on offense. Our new D scheme finally started clicking halfway through the season. Not to mention, the offense was built around players that opted out.
Do you really think we finish 6-6 or worst?
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He makes a good point valid for all schools. The margin between victory and defeat often relies upon a small number of key plays.
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Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-27-2021 10:06 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-27-2021 09:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote: (06-26-2021 02:52 PM)shere khan Wrote: (06-26-2021 12:16 PM)Kandy Atz Wrote: (06-25-2021 07:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I'll add the other non-power teams to usffan's list [AAC in bold]...
8 - Cincinnati
23 - Louisiana
24 - Coastal Carolina
30 - C. Florida
31 - Boise St
36 - Liberty
37 - Nevada
51 - BYU
52 - SJSU
55 - Appy St
61 - Houston
63 - SMU
64 - Tulane
65 - Tulsa
67 - UAB
69 - Fresno St
70 - UTSA
71 - Toledo
72 - Ball St
74 - Memphis
80 - Army
81 - Wyoming
82 - Air Force
84 - Marshall
85 - SDSU
87 - Ohio
88 - ECU
89 - Navy
92 - Miami, OH
93 - Western Michigan
94 - Buffalo
96 - Hawaii
97 - FAU
98 - Georgia St
99 - WKU
100 - Kent St
101 - South Florida
102 - Louisiana Tech
103 - Colorado St
104 - Charlotte
105 - Central Michigan
106 - Troy
107 - Georgia Southern
108 - Arkansas St
109 - Southern Miss
110 - New Mexico
111 - Eastern Michigan
112 - North Texas
113 - Rice
114 - Texas St
116 - Utah St
117 - MTSU
118 - Temple
119 - South Alabama
120 - UNLV
121 - FIU
122 - NIU
123 - UTEP
124 - ODU
125 - Akron
126 - UConn
127 - ULM
128 - BGSU
129 - UMass
130 - NMSU
Too Low - SMU, Memphis, and Tulsa
Too High - Houston
Not sure how UH jumps from a 3-5 finish to #3 in the conference. Has the roster changed that much?
The only way you rank SMU this low is if you believe the QB play this year will be worse than last year. Otherwise, they return most of their starters and have a ton of quality depth added via the transfer portal. Between Mordechai and Stone, SMU will have a decent QB by the time conference play starts.
I'm not as familiar with what is happening with Tulsa and Memphis, but I can't imagine either dropping this much.
Its hard to imagine with the improvement that has come in the AAC that only 2 teams would make the top 50.
Athlon. Making college football fans chuckle for decades.
Memphis won 5 games by 3 or less points with arguably its best qb in history that is now gone. Got manhandled by Tulane. Beat UCF due to a missed fg. Beat USF by one point. Didnt belong on the field with Cincy.
Poor coaching and lost key talent. Honestly they may be too high
Derp derp…..those BLM stickers still have you triggered.
Our OL sucked as did our running game. There was no balance attack on offense. Our new D scheme finally started clicking halfway through the season. Not to mention, the offense was built around players that opted out.
Do you really think we finish 6-6 or worst?
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He makes a good point valid for all schools. The margin between victory and defeat often relies upon a small number of key plays.
So you think Memphis will be in the bottom tier of teams this season?
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-28-2021 07:13 AM)tnzazz Wrote: (06-27-2021 10:06 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-27-2021 09:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote: (06-26-2021 02:52 PM)shere khan Wrote: (06-26-2021 12:16 PM)Kandy Atz Wrote: Too Low - SMU, Memphis, and Tulsa
Too High - Houston
Not sure how UH jumps from a 3-5 finish to #3 in the conference. Has the roster changed that much?
The only way you rank SMU this low is if you believe the QB play this year will be worse than last year. Otherwise, they return most of their starters and have a ton of quality depth added via the transfer portal. Between Mordechai and Stone, SMU will have a decent QB by the time conference play starts.
I'm not as familiar with what is happening with Tulsa and Memphis, but I can't imagine either dropping this much.
Its hard to imagine with the improvement that has come in the AAC that only 2 teams would make the top 50.
Athlon. Making college football fans chuckle for decades.
Memphis won 5 games by 3 or less points with arguably its best qb in history that is now gone. Got manhandled by Tulane. Beat UCF due to a missed fg. Beat USF by one point. Didnt belong on the field with Cincy.
Poor coaching and lost key talent. Honestly they may be too high
Derp derp…..those BLM stickers still have you triggered.
Our OL sucked as did our running game. There was no balance attack on offense. Our new D scheme finally started clicking halfway through the season. Not to mention, the offense was built around players that opted out.
Do you really think we finish 6-6 or worst?
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He makes a good point valid for all schools. The margin between victory and defeat often relies upon a small number of key plays.
So you think Memphis will be in the bottom tier of teams this season?
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They are listed as 7th best of 11 in the AAC and 20th best out of the 65 teams listed. I'd call the more middle than bottom.
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06-28-2021 12:53 PM |
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-28-2021 07:13 AM)tnzazz Wrote: (06-27-2021 10:06 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (06-27-2021 09:17 AM)tnzazz Wrote: (06-26-2021 02:52 PM)shere khan Wrote: (06-26-2021 12:16 PM)Kandy Atz Wrote: Too Low - SMU, Memphis, and Tulsa
Too High - Houston
Not sure how UH jumps from a 3-5 finish to #3 in the conference. Has the roster changed that much?
The only way you rank SMU this low is if you believe the QB play this year will be worse than last year. Otherwise, they return most of their starters and have a ton of quality depth added via the transfer portal. Between Mordechai and Stone, SMU will have a decent QB by the time conference play starts.
I'm not as familiar with what is happening with Tulsa and Memphis, but I can't imagine either dropping this much.
Its hard to imagine with the improvement that has come in the AAC that only 2 teams would make the top 50.
Athlon. Making college football fans chuckle for decades.
Memphis won 5 games by 3 or less points with arguably its best qb in history that is now gone. Got manhandled by Tulane. Beat UCF due to a missed fg. Beat USF by one point. Didnt belong on the field with Cincy.
Poor coaching and lost key talent. Honestly they may be too high
Derp derp…..those BLM stickers still have you triggered.
Our OL sucked as did our running game. There was no balance attack on offense. Our new D scheme finally started clicking halfway through the season. Not to mention, the offense was built around players that opted out.
Do you really think we finish 6-6 or worst?
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He makes a good point valid for all schools. The margin between victory and defeat often relies upon a small number of key plays.
So you think Memphis will be in the bottom tier of teams this season?
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Yes, if all imponderables turn against us. The same is true for all but the most dominant teams. Always cloudy the future is.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
i have zero confidence in houston doing anything , if we finnish with six wins total i’ll be surprised
holgerson is discombobulated
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
I think USF will be a much better team but due to our schedule I think 4-8 would be considered a good year.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
Major click bait here.
There is no friggin way Memphis is behind Boise State, UAB or UTSA in any multi-verse. Boise State is starting completely over with new a coaching staff, and UTSA... bleep bleep bleep bleep (if you cannot say something nice don't say nothin')
Yes we are breaking in a new QB, but we will have a quality O line with some depth, and the ability to run the ball as our QB gets used to the offense.
The RBs, as well as our WRs, already know the offense, so the learning curve will be on the QB.
Our defense should be pretty decent too. They didn't have a full season of practice last year to install the defense, so they learned it on the fly, and were getting better by the middle of the year.
If Memphis had had a better O line last season, we win 2 more games.
This season, I'm saying the worst we will do is 8 wins. And that is in a 'rebuilding' year.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-28-2021 01:18 PM)JHS55 Wrote: i have zero confidence in houston doing anything , if we finnish with six wins total i’ll be surprised
holgerson is discombobulated
yeah, he and Houston don't seem to be a good match.
I'm hoping Houston can right the ship, our conference needs for them to be good too.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-29-2021 06:56 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: Major click bait here.
There is no friggin way Memphis is behind Boise State, UAB or UTSA in any multi-verse. Boise State is starting completely over with new a coaching staff, and UTSA... bleep bleep bleep bleep (if you cannot say something nice don't say nothin')
Yes we are breaking in a new QB, but we will have a quality O line with some depth, and the ability to run the ball as our QB gets used to the offense.
The RBs, as well as our WRs, already know the offense, so the learning curve will be on the QB.
Our defense should be pretty decent too. They didn't have a full season of practice last year to install the defense, so they learned it on the fly, and were getting better by the middle of the year.
If Memphis had had a better O line last season, we win 2 more games.
This season, I'm saying the worst we will do is 8 wins. And that is in a 'rebuilding' year.
UTSA is pretty good actually. They return the second leading rusher in the country, lost to BYU by 7 points last year (the only other team than Coastal to give them a game), and barely lost to a top 25 Louisiana in the bowl game. They are not bad and are expected to win CUSA west by a lot of people.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-28-2021 09:20 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: I think USF will be a much better team but due to our schedule I think 4-8 would be considered a good year.
I agree. USF is going to take a significant leap forward this year. However, with NC State, Florida, and BYU in non conf, and a challenging AAC schedule, it will be tough to win more than 5 games. I predict 5-7.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-29-2021 09:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: (06-29-2021 06:56 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: Major click bait here.
There is no friggin way Memphis is behind Boise State, UAB or UTSA in any multi-verse. Boise State is starting completely over with new a coaching staff, and UTSA... bleep bleep bleep bleep (if you cannot say something nice don't say nothin')
Yes we are breaking in a new QB, but we will have a quality O line with some depth, and the ability to run the ball as our QB gets used to the offense.
The RBs, as well as our WRs, already know the offense, so the learning curve will be on the QB.
Our defense should be pretty decent too. They didn't have a full season of practice last year to install the defense, so they learned it on the fly, and were getting better by the middle of the year.
If Memphis had had a better O line last season, we win 2 more games.
This season, I'm saying the worst we will do is 8 wins. And that is in a 'rebuilding' year.
UTSA is pretty good actually. They return the second leading rusher in the country, lost to BYU by 7 points last year (the only other team than Coastal to give them a game), and barely lost to a top 25 Louisiana in the bowl game. They are not bad and are expected to win CUSA west by a lot of people.
we play them the day after my birthday in September...so we will see.
Covid hit a lot of teams hard last season, and teams that would ordinarily never see the top 25 were ranked last season.
Count me as a 'doubting Thomas'.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-25-2021 02:41 PM)usffan Wrote: Based on my reading of this:
8 - Cincinnati
30 - C. Florida
61 - Houston
63 - SMU
64 - Tulane
65 - Tulsa
74 - Memphis
88 - ECU
89 - Navy
101 - South Florida
118 - Temple
USFFan
101 .... that's brutal. But can't say it isn't accurate. We have a lot of work to do.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-30-2021 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (06-25-2021 02:41 PM)usffan Wrote: Based on my reading of this:
8 - Cincinnati
30 - C. Florida
61 - Houston
63 - SMU
64 - Tulane
65 - Tulsa
74 - Memphis
88 - ECU
89 - Navy
101 - South Florida
118 - Temple
USFFan
101 .... that's brutal. But can't say it isn't accurate. We have a lot of work to do.
USF is more up and down than most teams I can remember.
You're either top 25, or awful.
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-30-2021 08:58 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: (06-30-2021 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (06-25-2021 02:41 PM)usffan Wrote: Based on my reading of this:
8 - Cincinnati
30 - C. Florida
61 - Houston
63 - SMU
64 - Tulane
65 - Tulsa
74 - Memphis
88 - ECU
89 - Navy
101 - South Florida
118 - Temple
USFFan
101 .... that's brutal. But can't say it isn't accurate. We have a lot of work to do.
USF is more up and down than most teams I can remember.
You're either top 25, or awful.
We were pretty steady until Skip Holtz came on board since then it has been feast or famish across; Holtz,Taggart,Strong and Scott
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RE: Athlon's Preseason Rankings
(06-30-2021 09:23 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote: (06-30-2021 08:58 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: (06-30-2021 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (06-25-2021 02:41 PM)usffan Wrote: Based on my reading of this:
8 - Cincinnati
30 - C. Florida
61 - Houston
63 - SMU
64 - Tulane
65 - Tulsa
74 - Memphis
88 - ECU
89 - Navy
101 - South Florida
118 - Temple
USFFan
101 .... that's brutal. But can't say it isn't accurate. We have a lot of work to do.
USF is more up and down than most teams I can remember.
You're either top 25, or awful.
We were pretty steady until Skip Holtz came on board since then it has been feast or famish across; Holtz,Taggart,Strong and Scott
You're welcome
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