(06-21-2021 11:36 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(06-20-2021 12:44 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Go look up pass rates in flunkey basic courses in a system like NYC or worse DC, then tell us how money per “pupil” is the problem.

Tain’t bro. Been there. Starts, Continues, and Ends in the family. The household.

Start there, you’ll solve a lot more of societal ills.

#realtalk

How dare you suggest that this problem is not everyone else's fault EXCEPT that parents of these kids


I dare you to post that garbage on "tha twitta" or face book. You will be banned before you log off that same session.



GREAT POST!

It can't be that, because the solution to any problem HAS to begin and end with anyone except the "victims."

If they fail a test, it must be a flawed test, never a poor student...

(06-20-2021 09:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:28 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:22 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 09:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 09:31 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Ok Eric, how about not defunding schools? Or throwing black men in prison for drug offenses? Elimnating opportunities for them to move up? Stop creating barriers for people to elevate themselves.

As always, you are just not living in reality. You are living in your progressive imaginary fantasy world that does not exist.

Back here in the REAL world, minorities have more opportunity to work hard and move up than at any point in human history. Major corporations are literally DYING to hire minorities today. Letting drug offenders out of jail is not going to fix these problems, throwing more money in failed public schools is not going to fix the problem. Brainwashing young blacks to hate white America is not going to fix any problems, its only going to make them worse. Any idiot can see that, but you progressive are so separated from reality and so lost in your fantasy that you can't see anything even when its right in front of your face.

None of your fantasy world solutions actually address the root problems within the black community of a destroyed family unit, of fighting the culture of glorifying violence, drugs and gang life.

Your answers are all Marxist talking points, which are about nothing but creating more racial strife and division, and brainwashing people to believe the unprecedented opportunities they have do not exist and blaming your political enemies instead of dealing with the root problems.

Part of the problem is you can't really acknowledge the root issues because you can't use those root problems to further a Marxist progressive agenda. If Marxists progressives like you can't blame white conservatives and scream racism, then you simply have no interest in the issue and just retreat back to your fantasy world.

Marxism by definition HATES the nuclear family. So how in the world is a Marxist progressive going to deal with the destruction of the nuclear family in the black community. They can't. So instead you are going to ignore the root problems and instead create narratives that stoke racism and hatred.

Education and opportunity. That is being defunded. Doesn't matter if a corporation is looking for a black face if one's schools are underfunded and can't afford college. That only leads to opportunities for rich black families and then they are accused of being affirmative action hires.

The good schools already get less funding than the ones with 15% graduation rates. Money doesn't replace parents.

Good Lord, even the Atlantic agrees its not money. Of course, they add in a million other excuses...
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/ar...re/551126/

Schools are funded through property taxes and most of the charter schools aren't that good.

Schools have multiple funding sources.

The highest single source of funding comes from the state. This is not surprising given that the state is the entity responsible for public education. It is NOT a federal responsibility as noted by its absence in the constitution. All things not listed as a federal responsibility fall to the states.

The second highest source of funding comes from the local government. This is where property taxes come into play.

Of the "Big 3" sources of funding, third is the federal government. Note that this amount is surprisingly small ranging anywhere from 1 to 20%. In Memphis, the feds accounted for 12% of the budgeted funding source. In other nearby districts federal funding was as low as 6% of the budget.

Also note that federal funding is NOT typically used for general education purposes. It is almost always earmarked for specific programs.

As far as quality of education in the U.S. goes, homeschool students rank as the top performers followed by private school students and bringing up the rear are public school students.

Interestingly, each of those are funded inversely to their performance.

As homeschool parents we received ZERO dollars from state, local and federal governments.

Private schools fund students at a lower rate than public schools.

Public School Funding Per Student Averages 80% More Than Private Schools
By James D. Agresti
July 29, 2020

Quote:Consistent with that DOE data, new research by Just Facts reveals that average public K–12 school funding per student is about 80% higher than private schools. Specifically, the latest DOE data shows that governments spent an average of $14,439 for every student enrolled in K–12 public schools in the 2016–17 school year. In comparison, Just Facts estimates that private schools spent an average of $8,039 per student in the same year.

The figure for private school spending was determined by Just Facts with data from the DOE and U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. All methodological details are provided in the footnotes located here, and all data and calculations are shown in this spreadsheet.

Furthermore, DOE’s figure for public school spending per student doesn’t include the costs of state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits (like health insurance). In contrast, Just Facts’ figure for private schools is comprehensive and includes all spending by private consumers, nonprofit organizations, and governments. This means that the full public school funding advantage is greater than 80%.

The Finances of Homeschooling Your Kids: What It Costs, Tax Breaks, More
By Andrea Browne Taylor
December 8, 2020

Quote:Homeschooling is neither cheap nor easy. The average cost of homeschooling ranges from $700 to $1,800 per child per school year, according to Time4Learning.com, an online resource for homeschool families. This includes the cost of the curriculum, school supplies, field trips and extracurricular activities.

So, if you're keeping track:
Homeshool - Highest Peformance - $1,800 per student
Private School - High Performance - $8,039 per student
Public School - Low Performance - $14,439 per student*

* Public School per student funding is significantly higher when other costs are considered such as state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits.


Why do school funding rates and academic performance have an inverse relationship?

(06-21-2021 01:11 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-20-2021 09:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:28 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:22 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 09:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  As always, you are just not living in reality. You are living in your progressive imaginary fantasy world that does not exist.

Back here in the REAL world, minorities have more opportunity to work hard and move up than at any point in human history. Major corporations are literally DYING to hire minorities today. Letting drug offenders out of jail is not going to fix these problems, throwing more money in failed public schools is not going to fix the problem. Brainwashing young blacks to hate white America is not going to fix any problems, its only going to make them worse. Any idiot can see that, but you progressive are so separated from reality and so lost in your fantasy that you can't see anything even when its right in front of your face.

None of your fantasy world solutions actually address the root problems within the black community of a destroyed family unit, of fighting the culture of glorifying violence, drugs and gang life.

Your answers are all Marxist talking points, which are about nothing but creating more racial strife and division, and brainwashing people to believe the unprecedented opportunities they have do not exist and blaming your political enemies instead of dealing with the root problems.

Part of the problem is you can't really acknowledge the root issues because you can't use those root problems to further a Marxist progressive agenda. If Marxists progressives like you can't blame white conservatives and scream racism, then you simply have no interest in the issue and just retreat back to your fantasy world.

Marxism by definition HATES the nuclear family. So how in the world is a Marxist progressive going to deal with the destruction of the nuclear family in the black community. They can't. So instead you are going to ignore the root problems and instead create narratives that stoke racism and hatred.

Education and opportunity. That is being defunded. Doesn't matter if a corporation is looking for a black face if one's schools are underfunded and can't afford college. That only leads to opportunities for rich black families and then they are accused of being affirmative action hires.

The good schools already get less funding than the ones with 15% graduation rates. Money doesn't replace parents.

Good Lord, even the Atlantic agrees its not money. Of course, they add in a million other excuses...
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/ar...re/551126/

Schools are funded through property taxes and most of the charter schools aren't that good.

Schools have multiple funding sources.

The highest single source of funding comes from the state. This is not surprising given that the state is the entity responsible for public education. It is NOT a federal responsibility as noted by its absence in the constitution. All things not listed as a federal responsibility fall to the states.

The second highest source of funding comes from the local government. This is where property taxes come into play.

Of the "Big 3" sources of funding, third is the federal government. Note that this amount is surprisingly small ranging anywhere from 1 to 20%. In Memphis, the feds accounted for 12% of the budgeted funding source. In other nearby districts federal funding was as low as 6% of the budget.

Also note that federal funding is NOT typically used for general education purposes. It is almost always earmarked for specific programs.

As far as quality of education in the U.S. goes, homeschool students rank as the top performers followed by private school students and bringing up the rear are public school students.

Interestingly, each of those are funded inversely to their performance.

As homeschool parents we received ZERO dollars from state, local and federal governments.

Private schools fund students at a lower rate than public schools.

Public School Funding Per Student Averages 80% More Than Private Schools
By James D. Agresti
July 29, 2020

Quote:Consistent with that DOE data, new research by Just Facts reveals that average public K–12 school funding per student is about 80% higher than private schools. Specifically, the latest DOE data shows that governments spent an average of $14,439 for every student enrolled in K–12 public schools in the 2016–17 school year. In comparison, Just Facts estimates that private schools spent an average of $8,039 per student in the same year.

The figure for private school spending was determined by Just Facts with data from the DOE and U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. All methodological details are provided in the footnotes located here, and all data and calculations are shown in this spreadsheet.

Furthermore, DOE’s figure for public school spending per student doesn’t include the costs of state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits (like health insurance). In contrast, Just Facts’ figure for private schools is comprehensive and includes all spending by private consumers, nonprofit organizations, and governments. This means that the full public school funding advantage is greater than 80%.

The Finances of Homeschooling Your Kids: What It Costs, Tax Breaks, More
By Andrea Browne Taylor
December 8, 2020

Quote:Homeschooling is neither cheap nor easy. The average cost of homeschooling ranges from $700 to $1,800 per child per school year, according to Time4Learning.com, an online resource for homeschool families. This includes the cost of the curriculum, school supplies, field trips and extracurricular activities.

So, if you're keeping track:
Homeshool - Highest Peformance - $1,800 per student
Private School - High Performance - $8,039 per student
Public School - Low Performance - $14,439 per student*

* Public School per student funding is significantly higher when other costs are considered such as state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits.


Why do school funding rates and academic performance have an inverse relationship?

My guess would be all that extra funding goes to administrative nonsense rather than to teachers, etc. Not sure the accounting tricks that are played to make those moneys apply per student.

(06-21-2021 01:20 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 01:11 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-20-2021 09:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:28 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:22 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Education and opportunity. That is being defunded. Doesn't matter if a corporation is looking for a black face if one's schools are underfunded and can't afford college. That only leads to opportunities for rich black families and then they are accused of being affirmative action hires.

The good schools already get less funding than the ones with 15% graduation rates. Money doesn't replace parents.

Good Lord, even the Atlantic agrees its not money. Of course, they add in a million other excuses...
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/ar...re/551126/

Schools are funded through property taxes and most of the charter schools aren't that good.

Schools have multiple funding sources.

The highest single source of funding comes from the state. This is not surprising given that the state is the entity responsible for public education. It is NOT a federal responsibility as noted by its absence in the constitution. All things not listed as a federal responsibility fall to the states.

The second highest source of funding comes from the local government. This is where property taxes come into play.

Of the "Big 3" sources of funding, third is the federal government. Note that this amount is surprisingly small ranging anywhere from 1 to 20%. In Memphis, the feds accounted for 12% of the budgeted funding source. In other nearby districts federal funding was as low as 6% of the budget.

Also note that federal funding is NOT typically used for general education purposes. It is almost always earmarked for specific programs.

As far as quality of education in the U.S. goes, homeschool students rank as the top performers followed by private school students and bringing up the rear are public school students.

Interestingly, each of those are funded inversely to their performance.

As homeschool parents we received ZERO dollars from state, local and federal governments.

Private schools fund students at a lower rate than public schools.

Public School Funding Per Student Averages 80% More Than Private Schools
By James D. Agresti
July 29, 2020

Quote:Consistent with that DOE data, new research by Just Facts reveals that average public K–12 school funding per student is about 80% higher than private schools. Specifically, the latest DOE data shows that governments spent an average of $14,439 for every student enrolled in K–12 public schools in the 2016–17 school year. In comparison, Just Facts estimates that private schools spent an average of $8,039 per student in the same year.

The figure for private school spending was determined by Just Facts with data from the DOE and U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. All methodological details are provided in the footnotes located here, and all data and calculations are shown in this spreadsheet.

Furthermore, DOE’s figure for public school spending per student doesn’t include the costs of state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits (like health insurance). In contrast, Just Facts’ figure for private schools is comprehensive and includes all spending by private consumers, nonprofit organizations, and governments. This means that the full public school funding advantage is greater than 80%.

The Finances of Homeschooling Your Kids: What It Costs, Tax Breaks, More
By Andrea Browne Taylor
December 8, 2020

Quote:Homeschooling is neither cheap nor easy. The average cost of homeschooling ranges from $700 to $1,800 per child per school year, according to Time4Learning.com, an online resource for homeschool families. This includes the cost of the curriculum, school supplies, field trips and extracurricular activities.

So, if you're keeping track:
Homeshool - Highest Peformance - $1,800 per student
Private School - High Performance - $8,039 per student
Public School - Low Performance - $14,439 per student*

* Public School per student funding is significantly higher when other costs are considered such as state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits.


Why do school funding rates and academic performance have an inverse relationship?

My guess would be all that extra funding goes to administrative nonsense rather than to teachers, etc. Not sure the accounting tricks that are played to make those moneys apply per student.

As far as funding goes... I reviewed the Shelby County Schools budget from last year and for next year.

There is a huge increase in federal funds due to covid stimulus plan.

The largest budget ask ever made by Memphis schools — $2.19 billion — includes teacher raises and building renovations
By Cathryn Stout
May 18, 2021, 10:44pm CDT


Shelby County Schools Reports/Documents link

FY21
Funding: $1,426,924,239
Students: 104,460
Per Student: $13,570

Salaries: $654,005,219
Benefits: $203,120,412
Total: $857,125,631
% of Budget: 60.1%

FY21
Funding: $2,172,643,169
Students: 109,319
Per Student: $20,063

Salaries: $808,960,167
Benefits: $226,619,202
Total: $1,035,579,369
% of Budget: 47.7%

(06-21-2021 02:48 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 01:20 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 01:11 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-20-2021 09:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 10:28 PM)Todor Wrote:  The good schools already get less funding than the ones with 15% graduation rates. Money doesn't replace parents.

Good Lord, even the Atlantic agrees its not money. Of course, they add in a million other excuses...
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/ar...re/551126/

Schools are funded through property taxes and most of the charter schools aren't that good.

Schools have multiple funding sources.

The highest single source of funding comes from the state. This is not surprising given that the state is the entity responsible for public education. It is NOT a federal responsibility as noted by its absence in the constitution. All things not listed as a federal responsibility fall to the states.

The second highest source of funding comes from the local government. This is where property taxes come into play.

Of the "Big 3" sources of funding, third is the federal government. Note that this amount is surprisingly small ranging anywhere from 1 to 20%. In Memphis, the feds accounted for 12% of the budgeted funding source. In other nearby districts federal funding was as low as 6% of the budget.

Also note that federal funding is NOT typically used for general education purposes. It is almost always earmarked for specific programs.

As far as quality of education in the U.S. goes, homeschool students rank as the top performers followed by private school students and bringing up the rear are public school students.

Interestingly, each of those are funded inversely to their performance.

As homeschool parents we received ZERO dollars from state, local and federal governments.

Private schools fund students at a lower rate than public schools.

Public School Funding Per Student Averages 80% More Than Private Schools
By James D. Agresti
July 29, 2020

Quote:Consistent with that DOE data, new research by Just Facts reveals that average public K–12 school funding per student is about 80% higher than private schools. Specifically, the latest DOE data shows that governments spent an average of $14,439 for every student enrolled in K–12 public schools in the 2016–17 school year. In comparison, Just Facts estimates that private schools spent an average of $8,039 per student in the same year.

The figure for private school spending was determined by Just Facts with data from the DOE and U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. All methodological details are provided in the footnotes located here, and all data and calculations are shown in this spreadsheet.

Furthermore, DOE’s figure for public school spending per student doesn’t include the costs of state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits (like health insurance). In contrast, Just Facts’ figure for private schools is comprehensive and includes all spending by private consumers, nonprofit organizations, and governments. This means that the full public school funding advantage is greater than 80%.

The Finances of Homeschooling Your Kids: What It Costs, Tax Breaks, More
By Andrea Browne Taylor
December 8, 2020

Quote:Homeschooling is neither cheap nor easy. The average cost of homeschooling ranges from $700 to $1,800 per child per school year, according to Time4Learning.com, an online resource for homeschool families. This includes the cost of the curriculum, school supplies, field trips and extracurricular activities.

So, if you're keeping track:
Homeshool - Highest Peformance - $1,800 per student
Private School - High Performance - $8,039 per student
Public School - Low Performance - $14,439 per student*

* Public School per student funding is significantly higher when other costs are considered such as state government administration, unfunded pension liabilities, and public worker post-employment benefits.


Why do school funding rates and academic performance have an inverse relationship?

My guess would be all that extra funding goes to administrative nonsense rather than to teachers, etc. Not sure the accounting tricks that are played to make those moneys apply per student.

As far as funding goes... I reviewed the Shelby County Schools budget from last year and for next year.

There is a huge increase in federal funds due to covid stimulus plan.

The largest budget ask ever made by Memphis schools — $2.19 billion — includes teacher raises and building renovations
By Cathryn Stout
May 18, 2021, 10:44pm CDT


Shelby County Schools Reports/Documents link

FY21
Funding: $1,426,924,239
Students: 104,460
Per Student: $13,570

Salaries: $654,005,219
Benefits: $203,120,412
Total: $857,125,631
% of Budget: 60.1%

FY21
Funding: $2,172,643,169
Students: 109,319
Per Student: $20,063

Salaries: $808,960,167
Benefits: $226,619,202
Total: $1,035,579,369
% of Budget: 47.7%

It aint the amount of money thrown at education that is the problem

Thats all the left has in their quiver

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I might have posted the wrong video

https://twitter.com/LeonydusJohnson/stat...83458?s=19

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Y’all posting all these facts about the money wasted trying to educate those that don’t want to be educated know better. You will never change the mind of a liberal with facts. Liberals belief system is based on feelings not facts. Facts can never overcome the liberals savior complex.

(06-21-2021 11:06 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 11:00 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 08:08 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  

Yeah, no stereotypes there...

Yeah, teens do dumb stuff. But there is no reason why we can't also attribute this behavior to the over 65+ set, ya know because they look similar.

Dumb stuff? What I see there is pure depravity. I can't begin to understand the mindset of any female that would allow a man to walk up behind them and basically dry hump them from behind in public...all while on video...and at the sight of a tragedy in their community. Its not the actions of civilized human beings.

(06-21-2021 03:42 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Y’all posting all these facts about the money wasted trying to educate those that don’t want to be educated know better. You will never change the mind of a liberal with facts. Liberals belief system is based on feelings not facts. Facts can never overcome the liberals savior complex.

This.

(06-21-2021 04:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 11:06 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 11:00 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 08:08 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  

Yeah, no stereotypes there...

Yeah, teens do dumb stuff. But there is no reason why we can't also attribute this behavior to the over 65+ set, ya know because they look similar.

Dumb stuff? What I see there is pure depravity. I can't begin to understand the mindset of any female that would allow a man to walk up behind them and basically dry hump them from behind in public...all while on video...and at the sight of a tragedy in their community. Its not the actions of civilized human beings.

And also this.

Quote:Shootings broke out across the country during the Juneteenth weekend celebrations, following President Joe Biden declaring it a national holiday.

Biden on Thursday signed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act, which commemorates the freeing of Texas slaves on June 19, 1865. The president has not yet commented on the Juneteenth violence but said after he signed the bill that he “hope[s] this is the beginning of a change in the way we deal with one another.” The way people dealt with one another at the festivities, however, was with violence.

South Carolina
In Clover, South Carolina, three people were shot around 11:30 p.m. Saturday at a Juneteenth celebration, according to ABC News. One victim was a 17-year-old who was seriously injured and airlifted to a hospital in Charlotte, North Carolina. Authorities said several cars were also struck during the shooting. No arrests have been made, and the motive is under investigation.

California
During a Juneteenth celebration in Oakland, California, at least one person was left dead and several others wounded, Fox News reported. Bullets struck six victims between the ages of 16 and 27, the Oakland Police said in a statement. The department also confirmed that a 22-year-old victim died at the hospital.

Police said two men, allegedly armed with guns, were arrested after running from the scene of the shooting. “Tonight, a joyous occasion at our Lake Merritt was marred by a senseless act of gun violence,” Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said in a statement.

Colorado
In Aurora, Colorado, an all-night Juneteenth party at a strip mall came to an end at 4 a.m. Sunday when multiple gunmen unleashed up to 114 rounds, leaving one man dead and four other people wounded, according to police. Law enforcement said no arrests were made.

North Carolina
An emergency responder was shot while working at a Juneteenth rally in Raleigh, North Carolina. The responder was answering a call for a child who was in need of medical assistance, according to local news station WRAL.

The first responder was walking back to the ambulance after helping the child when shots were fired. WRAL reported that the responder is in good condition and is expected to make a full recovery. The shooter and motives are unknown.

Michigan
An officer was working at a Juneteenth parade traffic point in Flint, Michigan, when a car pulled up and open-fired, according to The Detroit News. The officer returned fire, striking the suspect, a 19-year-old female. The woman succumbed to her injuries while at the hospital, police said. The incident is under investigation.

Link

Founder of Biden-Supporting PAC Believed Man Murdered in Chicago Was a White Supremacist, So He Didn't 'Give a S**t'

My apologies, i keep posting the wrong video

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/14...25061?s=19

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Yeah, it's depraved to the average adult....BUT....this behavior is wholly expected/tolerated in Oakland and similar FUBAR communities. Doesn't everyone pay appropriate somber homage to the deceased in this manner?

Let's celebrate Juneteenth by twerking against the ambulance while they load up our dead and injured comrades!!

Totally Kool

Gonna bump this with some wise words from someone I follow on twitter.


https://twitter.com/LeonydusJohnson/stat...94050?s=19

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(06-21-2021 04:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 11:06 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 11:00 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-21-2021 08:08 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  

Yeah, no stereotypes there...

Yeah, teens do dumb stuff. But there is no reason why we can't also attribute this behavior to the over 65+ set, ya know because they look similar.

Dumb stuff? What I see there is pure depravity. I can't begin to understand the mindset of any female that would allow a man to walk up behind them and basically dry hump them from behind in public...all while on video...and at the sight of a tragedy in their community. Its not the actions of civilized human beings.

I guess that you've never seen those Girls Gone Wild commercials.