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SI: Why 12 Worked: Inside Two Years of Secrecy and the Making of a New Playoff Model
https://www.si.com/college/2021/06/16/co...-teams-why

Very interesting article on how the CFP evolved.

Quote:Bob Bowlsby (Big XII) , Greg Sankey (SEC) and Craig Thompson (Mountain West)—and one athletic director, Jack Swarbrick (Notre Dame), examined nearly 100 playoff models, one of which even included a 24-team bracket.

Quote:reached consensus on the number of participants in their playoff proposal (12) even before the pandemic arrived, some 15 months ahead of last week’s unveiling.

Quote:In the early days, they established one very important goal: grant access, in some way, to the Group of 5. From there, things got easier. They spent the majority of their time modeling five potential brackets: a seven, eight, nine, 10 and 12-team playoff, each with a half-dozen or more variations. Before reaching that point, though, Bowlsby says the committee at least briefly studied a 24-team bracket.

Quote:They seriously weighed keeping the model at four teams, the commissioners say, but with a twist. The selection committee wouldn’t pick the participants until the major bowls were played. The bowls would be, in many ways, de facto quarterfinals.
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RE: SI: Why 12 Worked: Inside Two Years of Secrecy and the Making of a New Playoff Model
The expansion of numbers brings up other considerations. EX: Compression of the playoff games to fewer days. The regular season provides one week between games, but with the playoffs, the teams are not doing educational learning -- they are there to make money with what they already have learned. Compared to basketball, the playoffs will have between a "sweet 16" and "Elite 8" in number. The games can be played in a holiday week by starting on Friday and playing every other day through the next week (and perhaps have double elimination for early rounds)
When it gets down to the "Final 4", a day can be added between games and changed to single elimination for the final games.

The tournament could require all games be played in one city -- like Dallas which has "Jerry World", the Cotton Bowl stadium and the Frisco City stadium and maybe others. Atlanta with MB MPF, the Ted and maybe UGA or some location even nearer. Two or three games par day at each site with each team playing each game at a different site may be possible if desired. Extending the season by 4 or 5 weeks may not be any more feasible than this plan.
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RE: SI: Why 12 Worked: Inside Two Years of Secrecy and the Making of a New Playoff Model
(06-16-2021 03:08 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  The expansion of numbers brings up other considerations. EX: Compression of the playoff games to fewer days. The regular season provides one week between games, but with the playoffs, the teams are not doing educational learning -- they are there to make money with what they already have learned. Compared to basketball, the playoffs will have between a "sweet 16" and "Elite 8" in number. The games can be played in a holiday week by starting on Friday and playing every other day through the next week (and perhaps have double elimination for early rounds)
When it gets down to the "Final 4", a day can be added between games and changed to single elimination for the final games.

The tournament could require all games be played in one city -- like Dallas which has "Jerry World", the Cotton Bowl stadium and the Frisco City stadium and maybe others. Atlanta with MB MPF, the Ted and maybe UGA or some location even nearer. Two or three games par day at each site with each team playing each game at a different site may be possible if desired. Extending the season by 4 or 5 weeks may not be any more feasible than this plan.

No, word is the most likely set up is the quarterfinals will be played in existing New Years Day bowl games. Which would put the on-campus first round games just before Christmas (mid-December). The Semi-Finals, also utilizing existing bowls would be played the next week with the Finals at sites to be determined the following week.

This is not basketball, they are not going to try to have teams play multiple games in a week, there is really no need for that.

If it were to be played this year for example:
First Round: The weekend of 12/18 (most likely, I doubt they try to intrude on Christmas week)
Quarter-Finals: The weekend of 1/1
Semi-Finals: The weekend of 1/8
Championship: 1/17 (assuming they stick with a Monday night).

That setup only extends the season by 1 week.
06-16-2021 03:28 PM
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RE: SI: Why 12 Worked: Inside Two Years of Secrecy and the Making of a New Playoff Model
(06-16-2021 03:28 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  
(06-16-2021 03:08 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  The expansion of numbers brings up other considerations. EX: Compression of the playoff games to fewer days. The regular season provides one week between games, but with the playoffs, the teams are not doing educational learning -- they are there to make money with what they already have learned. Compared to basketball, the playoffs will have between a "sweet 16" and "Elite 8" in number. The games can be played in a holiday week by starting on Friday and playing every other day through the next week (and perhaps have double elimination for early rounds)
When it gets down to the "Final 4", a day can be added between games and changed to single elimination for the final games.

The tournament could require all games be played in one city -- like Dallas which has "Jerry World", the Cotton Bowl stadium and the Frisco City stadium and maybe others. Atlanta with MB MPF, the Ted and maybe UGA or some location even nearer. Two or three games par day at each site with each team playing each game at a different site may be possible if desired. Extending the season by 4 or 5 weeks may not be any more feasible than this plan.

No, word is the most likely set up is the quarterfinals will be played in existing New Years Day bowl games. Which would put the on-campus first round games just before Christmas (mid-December). The Semi-Finals, also utilizing existing bowls would be played the next week with the Finals at sites to be determined the following week.

This is not basketball, they are not going to try to have teams play multiple games in a week, there is really no need for that.

If it were to be played this year for example:
First Round: The weekend of 12/18 (most likely, I doubt they try to intrude on Christmas week)
Quarter-Finals: The weekend of 1/1
Semi-Finals: The weekend of 1/8
Championship: 1/17 (assuming they stick with a Monday night).

That setup only extends the season by 1 week.

That also would leave the Army-Navy game unscathed and give teams a week off between conference championships and the playoff.

If this ends up being the schedule, I'd imagine the playoff will significantly reconfigure the bowl schedule. Those early bowls would probably move off that weekend so as not to compete with the playoff, and the weaker games owned by ESPN likely to be eliminated. I won't be surprised if 5 or more bowl games shut down. I'd guess C-USA gets the short end of that stick.
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RE: SI: Why 12 Worked: Inside Two Years of Secrecy and the Making of a New Playoff Model
I think the one thing that will change about this setup sooner rather than later will be allowing the top four teams with byes to host a playoff game on their homefield. Don't know why they didn't play the 1st round and 2nd round games at the highest seeds home field and the semis and CG from a selection of the six NY bowls.
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RE: SI: Why 12 Worked: Inside Two Years of Secrecy and the Making of a New Playoff Model
(06-16-2021 05:55 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I think the one thing that will change about this setup sooner rather than later will be allowing the top four teams with byes to host a playoff game on their homefield. Don't know why they didn't play the 1st round and 2nd round games at the highest seeds home field and the semis and CG from a selection of the six NY bowls.

Just now on the radio they are talking about how they are trending that way...allowing the 4 top seed to host the second round.
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