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Rich people avoiding taxes ?

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I guess thats why they dont care if taxes go up as a result of their policies.
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The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.
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What is funny is several of those names are the same hard liberals that always say "raise taxes on the wealthy". They know it is nothing more than virtue signaling since they have so many ways to move their money around to avoid being taxed.

But the idiots sop it up like gravy and biscuits.

SEE Warren Buffet is so great! He wants to be taxed more!
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(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.
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(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.
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(06-09-2021 10:24 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.

We don't yet. But we are moving decidedly in that direction
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(06-09-2021 10:24 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.

We live is a country that is moving closer to China's political system as they move closer to ours. When we meet in the middle we'll both have Corporatist Socialism down pat, aka Fascism.
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(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

Effing sucks.
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(06-09-2021 10:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

Effing sucks.

Time to stop believing in fairy tales people. Every system is "rigged" for the powerful, which is why our Founders tried to limit the scope of government. Every new government program is less power to the common man and more in the hands of the elites.
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(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

There are 3 classes. The ultra wealthy ruling elite class that pay 3-5% of their income in taxes. The high income earner (doctor, lawyer, engineer) that pays 25-35% of their income in taxes. The working poor that pays 0-15%. It's the high earning professional that gets screwed.
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(06-09-2021 10:46 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

Effing sucks.

Time to stop believing in fairy tales people. Every system is "rigged" for the powerful, which is why our Founders tried to limit the scope of government. Every new government program is less power to the common man and more in the hands of the elites.

This is rigged for the top and bottom.
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Illegally leaked or fake. Either way not worth attention.
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(06-09-2021 10:24 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.

Not there yet, but the struggle is real.

Marx and Engel thought this through and documented the following in their Manifesto of the Communist Party.

Note that their goal is to strip wealth aka capital away from those who have it and centralize it with the state.

They state that they must use tyrannical means to eliminate property rights. This entire chapter talks about the steps that need to be taken to destroy the capitalist system and replace it with socialism aka communism. One of the objectives is to eliminate private property rights.

Communistic/Socialistic legislation can easily be identified by simply looking at how it affects property. Does it support private property rights or does it call for collective property?

Note item 2 below.

Chapter II. Proletarians and Communists
Quote:The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.

Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.

These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

  1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
  2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
  3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
  4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
  5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
  6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
  7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
  8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
  9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
  10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.


Anyway, I get your point. But cute comments don't negate what's happening in the real world.
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(06-09-2021 10:46 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

Effing sucks.

Time to stop believing in fairy tales people. Every system is "rigged" for the powerful, which is why our Founders tried to limit the scope of government. Every new government program is less power to the common man and more in the hands of the elites.

Bam!

History lesson, civics lesson and economic lesson all in one short comment.

You win the Internet today! +3
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(06-09-2021 10:27 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:24 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.

We live is a country that is moving closer to China's political system as they move closer to ours. When we meet in the middle we'll both have Corporatist Socialism down pat, aka Fascism.

So rich people in China don't pay taxes?
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hmmmmmm….muh llc…

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(06-10-2021 09:29 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:27 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:24 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:21 AM)Danforth Wrote:  The system is rigged for rich people. If you don't believe it now you are fooling yourself.

It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.

We live is a country that is moving closer to China's political system as they move closer to ours. When we meet in the middle we'll both have Corporatist Socialism down pat, aka Fascism.

So rich people in China don't pay taxes?

The rich people in China are the politicians or their relatives so I'm going with no, they probably don't pay taxes.
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(06-10-2021 12:36 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 09:29 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:27 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:24 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:24 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  It's called Communism. That's what the progressive tax system is designed to do -- to eliminate the middle class leaving only 2 classes: the wealthy ruling elite class and the poor working class.

And there is example after example after example worldwide that demonstrates this.

I stand corrected. I had no idea we lived in a communist country.

We live is a country that is moving closer to China's political system as they move closer to ours. When we meet in the middle we'll both have Corporatist Socialism down pat, aka Fascism.

So rich people in China don't pay taxes?

The rich people in China are the politicians or their relatives so I'm going with no, they probably don't pay taxes.

So the difference in the United States is that the non government rich people don't have to pay taxes.

Sounds like the main difference between communism and capitalism.

In a communist government, only government officials are rich and don't pay taxes.

In a capitalist government the government officials and the rich don't pay taxes.
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