(06-30-2021 06:15 PM)WAChsenburggemeinde Wrote:  Dixie State should be called Utah Poly. Utah Tech copies Utah Valley's old name and it is a corporate woke name. Poly does sound a little like polygamy but it honors something unique about the region after they just whitewashed out Dixie which is unique to the region and has nothing to do w/ slavery.

That is incorrect

(06-30-2021 03:17 PM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 02:16 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  Let me get this straight. Utah Valley previously was named Utah Tech? That is going to make for some confusing history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Valley_University

Yea there were a lot of Utah Technical College at XXX campuses. I always thought one of them would have graduated to flagship status for Utah Tech. Most of them are still small regional tech locations that have adopted local names. Davis Applied Tech, Bridgerland Applied Tech, etc.

I always thought that Utah Valley University was a name that sold itself short. Especially if they wanted to attract more attention to itself beyond Utah County. Utah Valley wasn't even a recognized name on any state maps as a geographical location. To this day, UVU has the reputation of being a feeder school to students who want into BYU, but couldn't get in at the time.

IMHO UVU should have completed their plans they had when they were trying to get into the Big Sky and sponsored a FCS football team. Currently along the Wasatch Front (where the bulk of Utah's population resides) Dixie State gets more attention than Utah Valley. I believe football attracts more attention than UVU's college soccer team plan.

I was reading up on UVU to see about the old Utah Tech moniker and I found out UVU is the largest D1 university in the state of Utah. 39,931 students in 2018. Pretty crazy!

(06-30-2021 04:09 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 12:41 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Also, I think Tarleton State should drop "State" from it's name and just go by Tarleton for its sports teams; much like how Stephen F. Austin and Middle Tennessee have dropped "State" when referenced. They should just be called the Tarleton Texans and their uniforms shouldn't have "State" on them. I think this works well for marketing. Just my opinion.

Quote:100% agree!!!!!!

Most Tarleton fans don’t use use state when using the name and I wish the uniforms didn’t display the name. The name Tarleton is a unique brand and doesn’t need the state dragging behind it.

For the most part we do. Students and Alumni just call it "Tarleton". The athletic website is TarletonSports.com not TarletonStateSports

It is the Tarleton Athletics Hall of Fame
Tarleton Memorial Stadium

Football Jerseys say "Tarleton" or "Texans" - https://dbukjj6eu5tsf.cloudfront.net/tar...e_Pros.jpg

WBB says "Tarleton" - https://tarletonsports.com/images/2020/1...width=1600

Baseball- https://twitter.com/TarletonBase/status/...7559141376

Softball- https://tarletonsports.com/images/2020/1...width=1600

Tennis - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0Ke0eGXMAAS_3U.jpg


The only one that seems to hold onto the "Tarleton State" name is Men's Basketball. However, when you look at their Twitter - its "Tarleton MBB" https://twitter.com/tarletonmbb/

Everything says "Tarleton" not "Tarleton State". images on the website show players holding the basketball with the "Tarleton" brand open to the camera while "State" is cut off or covered.

And tarleton.edu calls you Junior Aggies...
https://www.tarleton.edu/admissions/docu...mu-psa.pdf
https://www.tarleton.edu/traditions/index.html
https://www.tarleton.edu/library/crossti...0044P.html

(07-01-2021 08:58 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 03:17 PM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 02:16 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  Let me get this straight. Utah Valley previously was named Utah Tech? That is going to make for some confusing history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Valley_University

Yea there were a lot of Utah Technical College at XXX campuses. I always thought one of them would have graduated to flagship status for Utah Tech. Most of them are still small regional tech locations that have adopted local names. Davis Applied Tech, Bridgerland Applied Tech, etc.

I always thought that Utah Valley University was a name that sold itself short. Especially if they wanted to attract more attention to itself beyond Utah County. Utah Valley wasn't even a recognized name on any state maps as a geographical location. To this day, UVU has the reputation of being a feeder school to students who want into BYU, but couldn't get in at the time.

IMHO UVU should have completed their plans they had when they were trying to get into the Big Sky and sponsored a FCS football team. Currently along the Wasatch Front (where the bulk of Utah's population resides) Dixie State gets more attention than Utah Valley. I believe football attracts more attention than UVU's college soccer team plan.

I was reading up on UVU to see about the old Utah Tech moniker and I found out UVU is the largest D1 university in the state of Utah. 39,931 students in 2018. Pretty crazy!

Utah is the nation’s fastest-growing state, with an 18.4% population increase from 2010 to 2020.

UVU is the state’s largest university, and Southern Utah is the fastest-growing. Fall enrollment at SUU is projected to balloon to almost 14,000 and school administrators are warning of a housing shortage in Cedar City of as many as 1,000 beds:

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news...of-housing

Meanwhile St.George is booming and Dixie State is Utah’s second fastest-growing university. Enrollment increased by over 40% from 2015 to 2020, currently exceeds 12,000 and is expected to grow to over 16,000 by 2025:

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archiv...tegic-plan

Couple all that with the continuing rapid growth in Texas and Arizona and it’s fair to say the WAC is better-positioned to benefit from current demographic trends than any other D1 conference.

(07-01-2021 09:49 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  I was reading up on UVU to see about the old Utah Tech moniker and I found out UVU is the largest D1 university in the state of Utah. 39,931 students in 2018. Pretty crazy!

Utah is the nation’s fastest-growing state, with an 18.4% population increase from 2010 to 2020.

UVU is the state’s largest university, and Southern Utah is the fastest-growing. Fall enrollment at SUU is projected to balloon to almost 14,000 and school administrators are warning of a housing shortage in Cedar City of as many as 1,000 beds:

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news...of-housing

Meanwhile St.George is booming and Dixie State is Utah’s second fastest-growing university. Enrollment increased by over 40% from 2015 to 2020, currently exceeds 12,000 and is expected to grow to over 16,000 by 2025:

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archiv...tegic-plan

Couple all that with the continuing rapid growth in Texas and Arizona and it’s fair to say the WAC is better-positioned to benefit from current demographic trends than any other D1 conference.
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When looked at from the perspective of growth in area population and enrollments (Utah Tech, SUU, the Texas schools) an FBS future does not appear completely unlikely. It is certainly more likely than the 2013 WAC even remaining as a conference at any division or that same conference being a healthy and proactive D1 conference like it now is on 07-01-2021.

Feedback from the namesake of Dixie State’s baseball facility

(06-08-2021 09:33 AM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  -Utah Institute of Technology

Clearly the superior choice. Just be prepared for dumb*** league commissioners to say "and with the nth pick in the draft ... from (state) Tech University ... "

UVU and BYU definitely have a strong symbiosis. Not many places anywhere have almost 90,000 students studying or living within a few miles.

While it is true that St George is one of the fastest growing places in the nation, and Dixie will continue to grow, I think it will cap out at around 30k. It will not replicate UVU growth. UVU is rapidly approaching 50,000 with little sign of letting up.

Dixie will only grow with St George and it will always have a limited draw from the Wasatch due to Utah specific dynamics. Dixie is a St George school more than a Utah school. While the st George Temple expansion was long over due, when it is complete in 2022 it could add fuel to the St George growth.

SUU could probably reach 20K eventually depending on how big St George gets. Cedar is booming, but nothing like St George itself. Dixie has already established themselves as THE school for Southern Utah and the Arizona Strip and nearly all future student growth, but more importantly, new academics programs and graduate programs will all go to Dixie. SUU will become even more arts focused.

This is the core of the WAC, and long term, I think these schools will play an outsized role in its future.

(06-08-2021 04:43 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  UTAH TECH is best imho. There are only five D1 schools named Tech:


-- Louisiana Tech (most use the shorter "LA TECH")

-- Texas Tech (TTU)

-- Tennessee Tech (they also use TTU)

-- Georgia Tech

-- Virginia Tech (most use VT)

I didn't realize Dixie was a tech school. Do they offer a bunch of Engineering programs?

(07-10-2021 12:29 AM)Todor Wrote:  UVU and BYU definitely have a strong symbiosis. Not many places anywhere have almost 90,000 students studying or living within a few miles.

While it is true that St George is one of the fastest growing places in the nation, and Dixie will continue to grow, I think it will cap out at around 30k. It will not replicate UVU growth. UVU is rapidly approaching 50,000 with little sign of letting up.

Dixie will only grow with St George and it will always have a limited draw from the Wasatch due to Utah specific dynamics. Dixie is a St George school more than a Utah school. While the st George Temple expansion was long over due, when it is complete in 2022 it could add fuel to the St George growth.

SUU could probably reach 20K eventually depending on how big St George gets. Cedar is booming, but nothing like St George itself. Dixie has already established themselves as THE school for Southern Utah and the Arizona Strip and nearly all future student growth, but more importantly, new academics programs and graduate programs will all go to Dixie. SUU will become even more arts focused.

This is the core of the WAC, and long term, I think these schools will play an outsized role in its future.

Dixie/Utah Tech is on a collision course for moving to FBS in football. I'm certain it's in their long-term plan. They do have a beautiful campus and are a booming university. Having football will help them get more visibility and I believe will allow them to pass Utah Valley in notoriety, if it hasn't already. I saw that Dixie is on a few future BYU football schedules. I remember Dixie when they were called the Rebels (dropped for obvious reasons) and then eventually the Red Storm. I never understood why the Red Storm nickname was changed. It didn't seem to last very long.

(09-17-2021 05:51 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 12:29 AM)Todor Wrote:  UVU and BYU definitely have a strong symbiosis. Not many places anywhere have almost 90,000 students studying or living within a few miles.

While it is true that St George is one of the fastest growing places in the nation, and Dixie will continue to grow, I think it will cap out at around 30k. It will not replicate UVU growth. UVU is rapidly approaching 50,000 with little sign of letting up.

Dixie will only grow with St George and it will always have a limited draw from the Wasatch due to Utah specific dynamics. Dixie is a St George school more than a Utah school. While the st George Temple expansion was long over due, when it is complete in 2022 it could add fuel to the St George growth.

SUU could probably reach 20K eventually depending on how big St George gets. Cedar is booming, but nothing like St George itself. Dixie has already established themselves as THE school for Southern Utah and the Arizona Strip and nearly all future student growth, but more importantly, new academics programs and graduate programs will all go to Dixie. SUU will become even more arts focused.

This is the core of the WAC, and long term, I think these schools will play an outsized role in its future.

Dixie/Utah Tech is on a collision course for moving to FBS in football. I'm certain it's in their long-term plan. They do have a beautiful campus and are a booming university. Having football will help them get more visibility and I believe will allow them to pass Utah Valley in notoriety, if it hasn't already. I saw that Dixie is on a few future BYU football schedules. I remember Dixie when they were called the Rebels (dropped for obvious reasons) and then eventually the Red Storm. I never understood why the Red Storm nickname was changed. It didn't seem to last very long.

The combined St. George and Cedar City metro areas have a large enough population to support one FBS-caliber program but not two. And I agree that in the long run Utah Tech will be more likely than Southern Utah to move up.

(06-08-2021 09:33 AM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  According to this article, some of the names that could be considered are:

-Utah Technological University
(It will probably be shortened to Utah Tech by sportswriters.)
-Utah University of Technology & Arts
(UUTA????)
-Utah University of Technology & Humanities
(I think that's even worse than UUTA.)

Should have gone with Utah University of Technology, Arts, and Humanities (UUTAH).

(09-17-2021 05:51 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 12:29 AM)Todor Wrote:  UVU and BYU definitely have a strong symbiosis. Not many places anywhere have almost 90,000 students studying or living within a few miles.

While it is true that St George is one of the fastest growing places in the nation, and Dixie will continue to grow, I think it will cap out at around 30k. It will not replicate UVU growth. UVU is rapidly approaching 50,000 with little sign of letting up.

Dixie will only grow with St George and it will always have a limited draw from the Wasatch due to Utah specific dynamics. Dixie is a St George school more than a Utah school. While the st George Temple expansion was long over due, when it is complete in 2022 it could add fuel to the St George growth.

SUU could probably reach 20K eventually depending on how big St George gets. Cedar is booming, but nothing like St George itself. Dixie has already established themselves as THE school for Southern Utah and the Arizona Strip and nearly all future student growth, but more importantly, new academics programs and graduate programs will all go to Dixie. SUU will become even more arts focused.

This is the core of the WAC, and long term, I think these schools will play an outsized role in its future.

Dixie/Utah Tech is on a collision course for moving to FBS in football. I'm certain it's in their long-term plan. They do have a beautiful campus and are a booming university. Having football will help them get more visibility and I believe will allow them to pass Utah Valley in notoriety, if it hasn't already. I saw that Dixie is on a few future BYU football schedules. I remember Dixie when they were called the Rebels (dropped for obvious reasons) and then eventually the Red Storm. I never understood why the Red Storm nickname was changed. It didn't seem to last very long.

Dixie St has already received more press along the Wasatch front than UVU. I believe it's because one plays football.

The latest:

https://kutv.com/news/local/utah-educati...ame-change

If I am reading this right, Step 10 is now complete and Dixie State is literally a Utah Legislature approval away. The Utah Legislature does not convene again until January 2022 (if I am not mistaken) so this was done in ample time to get on their purview.

Congrats Utah Tech! Welcome to the Tech family!

(10-28-2021 11:25 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Congrats Utah Tech! Welcome to the Tech family!

I wonder if the Dixie fans will simply put "Tech" in all their posts and in their profiles...

(10-28-2021 02:03 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:25 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Congrats Utah Tech! Welcome to the Tech family!

I wonder if the Dixie fans will simply put "Tech" in all their posts and in their profiles...

Probably a few will, if there are any. They'd be the only Tech named school in the WAC, right?

Smart move to rebrand and good choice of name. The legislature’s approval should be no more than a formality. Bold prediction: if Utah Tech keeps growing and plays its cards right I could see it being a candidate to join the MWC a decade from now.

The Dixie State name change to Utah Tech just passed the Utah Legislature. I don't think the Utah governor will veto it (he hasn't shown any desire to stand up to the legislator)

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news...-to-happen

Ignore the URL wording, it was an update to an earlier article when it was reported that there might not be enough votes.