Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
Author Message
JamesTKirk Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 65
Joined: Mar 2021
Reputation: 3
I Root For: the underdog
Location:
Post: #41
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:19 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  "The G5 autobid to the CFP is coming, we don't need Boise anymore."

or possibly:

"The G5 autobid to the CFP is coming; now, Boise is calling us, for a change."

.

....in reference to this:


Pete Thamel has written an article suggesting that surprisingly rapid progress has been made by the CFP committee's four-member working group toward a recommendation for a 12-team CFP expansion, which - theoretically - could go into effect as early as 2023:

"Yahoo Sports spoke to ... university officials, athletic directors, media executives and others around college sports. Amid those conversations, a surprise emerged — officials on campuses, in conference offices and in the television world have expressed an openness toward a 12-team playoff as the most likely result.

While it’s unfair to say momentum has built toward a 12-team playoff before models have been presented to the commissioners or presidents, the 12-team model has emerged as the favored outcome within the industry.

The two days of discussion by the management committee (July 17 & 18) are expected to yield a recommendation for the following week. That’s when the CFP board of managers ...will examine what’s put forward and likely determine the potential shape...of the playoff's future."

How would 12 teams work? The basic thought is automatic bids for the five major conferences — which also juices up their league title games as play-in games — and one for the highest ranked Group of Five champion. "

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-footbal...ZBt94PJA2U

.


There's no assurance that a 12-team CFP expansion would necessarily be approved, and if approved, it wouldn't go into effect before 2023, at the earliest.

However, the development of a strong consensus to adopt a 12-team CFP format could make it difficult for the opponents of CFP expansion to block a proposal that has rapidly developed widespread national support.

The two PAC-12 representatives and the five G5 representatives have strong reasons to favor a 12-team CFP expansion; only one of the 8 ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, and SEC representatives would have to side with them in order for a motion to adopt a 12-team CFP format to pass.

.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 10:38 AM by JamesTKirk.)
06-08-2021 10:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SMUstang Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,575
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 164
I Root For: SMU Mustangs
Location: Horseshoe Bay, Texas
Post: #42
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 09:46 AM)whittx Wrote:  But the most viable school from an institutional standpoint (Buffalo) is still on its own island. An Ohio MAC school would be more ideal but even a Toledo or Directional Michigan school wouldn't fit institutionally.

As much as I hate to admit it, Buffalo would be a good choice for the AAC number 12 for these reasons:

1. Location - reasonably close to the departed UCONN
2. Does not increase the conference footprint
3. Excellent football
4. Excellent mens basketball
5. Excellent academics (AAU Research University) with over 32,000 students enrolled. (Most, if not all, college presidents would favor them)
6. Buffalo population over 260,000

In nearly every aspect, probably a better choice than Boise.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 11:11 AM by SMUstang.)
06-08-2021 10:37 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
IWokeUpLikeThis Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,791
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 507
I Root For: NIU, Chicago St
Location: South Side
Post: #43
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 09:56 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 10:16 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  The big winner: reality-based readers. This should end the ridiculous 16-24 team coast-to-coast fantasy posts.

Ha ha, no chance. This is the launching point for new threads like, "Is the AAC's non-pursuit of Boise State just a negotiating tactic?" 07-coffee3

Case in point:


(06-08-2021 10:31 AM)JamesTKirk Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:19 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  "The G5 autobid to the CFP is coming, we don't need Boise anymore."

or possibly:

"The G5 autobid to the CFP is coming; now, Boise is calling us, for a change."
06-08-2021 10:42 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,194
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 272
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #44
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)bluesox Wrote:  AAC should do one of the following:

A)VCU and Air Force or Army football only

B)UAB

If Army or Air Force were willing to join Football Only, the move would have already been announced, so you are basically saying that the AAC should add UAB.

(06-08-2021 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:46 AM)whittx Wrote:  But the most viable school from an institutional standpoint (Buffalo) is still on its own island. An Ohio MAC school would be more ideal but even a Toledo or Directional Michigan school wouldn't fit institutionally.

As much as I hate to admit it, Buffalo would be a good choice for the AAC number 12 for these reasons:

1. Location - reasonably close to the departed UCONN
2. Does not increase the conference footprint
3. Excellent football
4. Excellent mens basketball
5. Excellent academics (AAU university) (Most, if not all, college presidents would favor them)

In nearly every aspect, probably a better choice than Boise.

Though with UConn having left, a location "reasonably close" to the departed UConn as in 6 hours drive to the west by northwest of Storrs doesn't really help anybody in the AAC all that much. It's just an island that is closer to the AAC footprint compared to Boise.

For JMU fans pining for an FBS invite, Buffalo might be second best news, since JMU seems likely be first in line for an invite from the MAC if Buffalo were raided.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 11:09 AM by BruceMcF.)
06-08-2021 10:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
panite Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,650
Joined: Feb 2006
Reputation: 149
I Root For: Owls-SC-RU-Navy
Location:
Post: #45
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:52 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)bluesox Wrote:  AAC should do one of the following:

A)VCU and Air Force or Army football only

B)UAB

If Army or Air Force were willing to join Football Only, the move would have already been announced, so you are basically saying that the AAC should add UAB.

We'll stick at 11. 04-jawdrop 03-shhhh 04-cheers
06-08-2021 10:55 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
CliftonAve Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 17,610
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 736
I Root For: CinCity Pride
Location:
Post: #46
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:24 AM)JamesTKirk Wrote:  .

It may be too soon to know whether or not the report about Boise State necessarily means that the AAC will be in a position to replace UConn or to expand.

It may be possible that the AAC's aspirations could get an unexpected boost this summer from an earlier than expected consensus on a 12-team CFP expansion format.

Pete Thamel has written an article suggesting that surprisingly rapid progress has been made by the CFP committee's four-member working group toward a recommendation for a 12-team CFP expansion, which - theoretically - could go into effect as early as 2023:

"Yahoo Sports spoke to more than a dozen stakeholders Monday on every side of the playoff decision – university officials, athletic directors, media executives and others around college sports. Amid those conversations, a surprise emerged — officials on campuses, in conference offices and in the television world have expressed an openness toward a 12-team playoff as the most likely result.

While it’s unfair to say momentum has built toward a 12-team playoff before models have been presented to the commissioners or presidents, the 12-team model has emerged as the favored outcome over the eight-team playoff within the industry.


The two days of discussion by the management committee (July 17 & 18) are expected to yield a singular recommendation for the following week. That’s when the CFP board of managers, a group of 11 presidents and chancellors from the 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame, will examine what’s put forward and likely determine the potential shape — although not the final details — of the playoff's future."

How would 12 teams work? The basic thought is automatic bids for the five major conferences — which also juices up their league title games as play-in games — and one for the highest ranked Group of Five champion. "

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-footbal...ZBt94PJA2U

.

As Thamel has pointed out, there's no assurance that a 12-team CFP expansion would necessarily be approved, and even if it were to be approved, it wouldn't go into effect before 2023, at the earliest.

However, the development of a strong consensus to adopt a 12-team CFP format could make it difficult for the opponents of CFP expansion to block a proposal that has widespread national support.

There are 15 votes on the CFP executive committee. The two PAC-12 representatives and the five G5 representatives would have strong reasons to favor a 12-team CFP expansion, and only one of the 8 ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, and SEC representatives would have to side with them in order for a motion to adopt a 12-team CFP format to pass.

.

If there is any significant movement toward adoption of a 12-team CFP format during the summer meetings, some of the western schools that the AAC has shown interest in adding may wish to maximize their chances of sending their teams to the playoffs by competing for the AAC championship.

Even the upper echelon FBS independent, BYU, might find it advantageous to join the AAC, since the AAC champion has consistently been the most highly-ranked G5 conference in recent years, and has represented the G5 in four of the past six NY6 bowl series.

.

AAC Commissioner, Mike Aresco's phone may not be ringing off the hook at this point, but that might change sooner than anyone has had reason to expect if the surprisingly rapid development of a consensus for a specific CFP expansion format - as described by Thamel - continues to build in the coming weeks.

Jed, is that you?
06-08-2021 10:56 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
JamesTKirk Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 65
Joined: Mar 2021
Reputation: 3
I Root For: the underdog
Location:
Post: #47
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:55 AM)panite Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:52 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)bluesox Wrote:  AAC should do one of the following:

A)VCU and Air Force or Army football only

B)UAB

If Army or Air Force were willing to join Football Only, the move would have already been announced, so you are basically saying that the AAC should add UAB.

We'll stick at 11.

...for the next few weeks/months, at least.

The situation could change by year's end if the surprisingly rapid development of a consensus favoring a 12-team CFP expansion, as described by Pete Thamel, with an automatic bid for the top G5 conference (currently the AAC) is approved later this year.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-footbal...ZBt94PJA2U

.
06-08-2021 11:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
IWokeUpLikeThis Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,791
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 507
I Root For: NIU, Chicago St
Location: South Side
Post: #48
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
jedclampett and JamesTKirk post on both the Realignment and AAC boards.
jedclampett and JamesTKirk both post walls of words.
jedclampett and JamesTKirk both bold a lot and use ellipses and those “one paragraph periods”.

Jed Clampett and James T Kirk are both early 1960s fictional TV characters.

jedclampett and JamesTKirk are the same person.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 11:11 AM by IWokeUpLikeThis.)
06-08-2021 11:04 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
IWokeUpLikeThis Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,791
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 507
I Root For: NIU, Chicago St
Location: South Side
Post: #49
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
jedclampett isn’t even banned or suspended and was active just a few hours ago. What is he accomplishing with all these sock puppets?
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 11:10 AM by IWokeUpLikeThis.)
06-08-2021 11:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dbackjon Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,922
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 308
I Root For: NAU/Illini
Location:
Post: #50
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 12:06 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:04 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The big loser is C-USA, as UTEP wont be tapped to replace Boise State.

One could say SDSU is runner up. Without Boise moving, they are stuck too.

You make it sound like the Mountain West is a bad league - when it is a very good football and basketball league.
06-08-2021 11:15 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Michael in Raleigh Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,097
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 92
I Root For: App State
Location:
Post: #51
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
As an App State alum and fan, of course I'd love for my school to get into the AAC. But I know that is not in the cards, barring gigantic realignment where like 6+ schools leave.

I really like the Sun Belt. I'm happy App is in the Sun Belt rather than C-USA. But since the AAC is pretty much completely off the table, I'm still in favor of a rearrangement between C-USA and the SB.

I would be okay trading Louisiana for Marshall and scheduling some non conference games with the Cajuns. I'd be fine trading TXST for Charlotte, Ark State for UAB, ULM for ODU, and taking in the Florida schools.

But the status quo doesn't seem as bad as it used to.
06-08-2021 11:15 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
LostInSpace Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 745
Joined: Sep 2004
Reputation: 25
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #52
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 11:07 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  jedclampett isn’t even banned or suspended and was active just a few hours ago. What is he accomplishing with all these sock puppets?

He’s done the same thing on one of the Temple boards for years. I’ve got no explanation for why he does this.
06-08-2021 11:20 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SoCalBobcat78 Online
1st String
*

Posts: 2,369
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 109
I Root For: TXST, UCLA, CBU
Location:
Post: #53
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 12:06 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:04 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The big loser is C-USA, as UTEP wont be tapped to replace Boise State.

One could say SDSU is runner up. Without Boise moving, they are stuck too.

Did SDSU want to move? The Mountain West Conference is a good conference for them. Obviously, the Pac-12 would be better, but that is not going to happen. I don't see SDSU being affected by this one way or another.
06-08-2021 11:28 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SMUstang Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,575
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 164
I Root For: SMU Mustangs
Location: Horseshoe Bay, Texas
Post: #54
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
06-08-2021 11:37 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 35,966
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1935
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #55
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:01 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:38 AM)whittx Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 08:42 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  they shut the door on Boise because they are realizing finally that JMU has been, and always will be, the best add to the AAC now and for the future.

If you don't think so, it's only because you are stuck looking in the past and not seeing the future.

They very well might have been if they had taken that Sun Belt invite back in the day. No way the American takes a direct jump from FCS.

that's a naive take though and when you stop and think about it, it makes no sense.

since we "turned down" an All Sports invite to the Sun Belt in 2014 (we told them we'd go for football only. the SB said no to that) all we have done since then is:

gone to 3 FCS title games in football, with 1 championship.
are 2-0 against AAC teams in football (beat SMU and embarrassed ECU)
won a National title in Women's lacrosse (2018)
been within 10 minutes of the College Cup (Final 4) in men's soccer (2018)
gone to 3 Super Regionals plus the semi-finals of WCWS in softball(2016,2019,2021)
hosted ESPN College Game Day TWICE (2015,2017)
built a state of the art $100m basketball arena (2020)

exactly what could we have done "more" by being in the Sun Belt those years?
Answer: nothing more. Probably less as the Sun Belt was a terrible footprint for JMU as an all-sports league (Idaho and NM State were still in, Coastal was not. CCU took our invite when we said no) and recruiting would not have been as easy playing so many games in LA, AK, TX.

stop thinking about stupid labels like "FCS". Open your eyes and look at what we are already doing and where we are going.

expansion is about the future, not the past or even about today. The AAC would be stupid to think like that and not look at which programs are trending up and which are stagnating or declining.

JMU has the facilities, the fanbase, the success, the geography and more importantly, we are only getting better and better as time goes on. Think what more we could do as a member of a P6 conference. Any conference outside the P5 should feel fortunate to have us.

If JMU had gone to the Sunbelt and accomplished something similar in an FBS conference like the Sunbelt, JMU might have actually begun building some actual legitimate brand value. The reason you feel the need to tell people all the stuff JMU has done is because nobody knows or really cares about FCS. JMU is essentially invisible in FCS. SHSU just won a National FCS Championship and is every bit as much of a FCS football power as JMU---yet, I assure you---Sam Houston State is not on the AAC radar---and neither is JMU. A school has to capitalize on opportunities when they arise and for whatever reason---the JMU leadership has opted to pass whenever they had the opportunity to dare greatly. JMU's profile as a legit AAC target might be radically different if they had different leadership. App St is currently miles ahead of JMU in any discussion of AAC expansion---and there is just one reason why that is so---AppSt made the jump to FBS when they had the chance.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 12:07 PM by Attackcoog.)
06-08-2021 12:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 35,966
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1935
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #56
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)bluesox Wrote:  AAC should do one of the following:

A)VCU and Air Force or Army football only

B)UAB

"A" is a viable option at this time. "B" is not currently a viable option---but might could be 5 or 10 years down the road if they continue to develop.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 12:18 PM by Attackcoog.)
06-08-2021 12:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 35,966
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1935
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #57
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 10:37 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:46 AM)whittx Wrote:  But the most viable school from an institutional standpoint (Buffalo) is still on its own island. An Ohio MAC school would be more ideal but even a Toledo or Directional Michigan school wouldn't fit institutionally.

As much as I hate to admit it, Buffalo would be a good choice for the AAC number 12 for these reasons:

1. Location - reasonably close to the departed UCONN
2. Does not increase the conference footprint
3. Excellent football
4. Excellent mens basketball
5. Excellent academics (AAU Research University) with over 32,000 students enrolled. (Most, if not all, college presidents would favor them)
6. Buffalo population over 260,000

In nearly every aspect, probably a better choice than Boise.

Excellent football? Excellent basketball? You do realize college sports is more than just last year? Buffalo football is 377-493 over its history. Buffalo football has been around since 1894 and has ONE conference championship in the sport during that entire span of time. Buffalo Basketball isnt much better. It has been to the NCAA tournament just 4 times in its entire history. Its won a total of 2 NCAA tournament games in its entire basketball history.

Excellent university for sure---but excellent football and basketball? C'mon. Zero brand value. Besides, the reality is UConn was an outlier. No real need to replace an outlier---especially given that the far northeast doesnt really care much about college football in general---and cares even less about Buffalo football specifically. If they are the pick---it will be entirely due the quality of the school---as their athletics programs have zero brand value are as far from "value adding" as you can get.

That said--you can throw them in with UAB as a school that COULD develop over the next 5 to 10 years and be viable choice in the future. Honestly---virtually ANY G5 has the potential to develop into a viable option in a decade or so----or none of the G5 might develop to that point. Impossible to know---which is why its not really a good idea to add any school based entirely on "potential". That "potential" is simply little more than a crap shoot. What Buffalo does have is the academic chops to be an easy yes if they just had some quality brand value.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 02:27 PM by Attackcoog.)
06-08-2021 12:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
UConnHusky Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,685
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 168
I Root For: UConn/Big East
Location: Hub of the Universe
Post: #58
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 12:17 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 11:37 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 11:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Looks like the AAC could be stuck at 11 for a long time. Aresco needs to get to work on that rule change.

If they need an affiliate to tide them over until the picture post-2024 is clear, there are several available.

That might be less likely than Boise. Waaaaaay too many issues. Nobody is leaving a conference for a temporary affiliate status---so that means it must be an indy. UConn is a hard no for obvious reasons. That leaves UMass, Liberty, and NM State. Then---you'll either have to buy out a bunch of indy games in order to immediately free up their schedule---or---you can wait several years for their schedule to open up---which would put you around the mid-2020's---and it would be sort of a "whats the point" endeavor once you get that far down the road.

No. It looks like the AAC is essentially an 11 team football/basketball league for the forseeable future.....unless Aresco finally decides to invite VCU.....04-cheers

So UConn is a "hard no for obvious reasons" while UMass and NM State would be in play if you were Aresco? UMass and NM State are as a bad on the gridiron as UConn. UMass plays in a 15K stadium leftover from their FCS days and doesn't really own the Massachusetts market. NM State is essentially invisible. UConn (which played in a Fiesta Bowl in 2010, has a 40K stadium, has top notch facilities, and has a strong overall athletics brand on the national stage) was actually not bad for the AAC. The school provided a brand name for television while it bolstered the record of other AAC schools in football as we were a likely win on your schedules. Look, I get why the AAC wanted us to scram after we said we were taking our other sports to the Big East. However, Aresco is now seeing that there really aren't many better options for the AAC to replace us.

If the Indy chosen isn't UConn, at least go with Liberty. They offer better football that UConn at the moment, so at least I could understand that logic.
06-08-2021 12:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
jdgaucho Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,589
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation: 73
I Root For: UCSB
Location: Big West Land
Post: #59
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 11:15 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:06 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:04 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The big loser is C-USA, as UTEP wont be tapped to replace Boise State.

One could say SDSU is runner up. Without Boise moving, they are stuck too.

You make it sound like the Mountain West is a bad league - when it is a very good football and basketball league.

The last few years, not so much tournament success.

2016: 1 bid, one and done
2017: 1 bid, one and done
2018: 2 bids, Nevada sweet 16
2019: 2 bids, 0-2
2021: 2 bids, 0-2. And SDSU got Buddy Boeheim'd

That's a 2-8 record in March. That's not very good
06-08-2021 12:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 35,966
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1935
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #60
RE: Game Over: AAC shuts the door on Boise
(06-08-2021 12:39 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:17 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 11:37 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 11:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Looks like the AAC could be stuck at 11 for a long time. Aresco needs to get to work on that rule change.

If they need an affiliate to tide them over until the picture post-2024 is clear, there are several available.

That might be less likely than Boise. Waaaaaay too many issues. Nobody is leaving a conference for a temporary affiliate status---so that means it must be an indy. UConn is a hard no for obvious reasons. That leaves UMass, Liberty, and NM State. Then---you'll either have to buy out a bunch of indy games in order to immediately free up their schedule---or---you can wait several years for their schedule to open up---which would put you around the mid-2020's---and it would be sort of a "whats the point" endeavor once you get that far down the road.

No. It looks like the AAC is essentially an 11 team football/basketball league for the forseeable future.....unless Aresco finally decides to invite VCU.....04-cheers

So UConn is a "hard no for obvious reasons" while UMass and NM State would be in play if you were Aresco? UMass and NM State are as a bad on the gridiron as UConn. UMass plays in a 15K stadium leftover from their FCS days and doesn't really own the Massachusetts market. NM State is essentially invisible. UConn (which played in a Fiesta Bowl in 2010, has a 40K stadium, has top notch facilities, and has a strong overall athletics brand on the national stage) was actually not bad for the AAC. The school provided a brand name for television while it bolstered the record of other AAC schools in football as we were a likely win on your schedules. Look, I get why the AAC wanted us to scram after we said we were taking our other sports to the Big East. However, Aresco is now seeing that there really aren't many better options for the AAC to replace us.

If the Indy chosen isn't UConn, at least go with Liberty. They offer better football that UConn at the moment, so at least I could understand that logic.

UConn would be a "hard no" due to having just been kicked out (football) and there being little good will toward them (thats the "obvious" reason I was talking about). It has nothing to do with how they compare to the remaining choices. I didnt even analyze the remaining choices (they are all pretty bad by the way) because the reality is the whole "affiliate concept" is functionally flawed once you delve into the details a bit. The idea was an affiliate member could bridge the gap until the mid-2020's realignment fall out is known--allowing the AAC to make a better informed membership decision at that time. Perhaps they lose a member during that period and fall to an even 10 members after realignment. They wouldnt need to add anyone and could just drop the affiliate. The bottom line is, after looking at the details a bit, its clear an affiliate would either be very expensive (due to game buy outs) or arrive too late to do much good.
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2021 01:14 PM by Attackcoog.)
06-08-2021 01:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2021 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2021 MyBB Group.