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Omar: U.S. And Israel Commit ‘Unthinkable Atrocities’ Like The Taliban, Hamas
Quote:Far-left Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) demonized the United States and Israel on Monday, claiming that the two democracies commit “unthinkable atrocities” just like Islamic terrorist organizations.

“We must have the same level of accountability and justice for all victims of crimes against humanity,” Omar wrote on Twitter. “We have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by the U.S., Hamas, Israel, Afghanistan, and the Taliban.”

Hamas is a designated terrorist organization while the Taliban is an extremist organization.

Omar included a video of her questioning Secretary of State Antony Blinken during a committee hearing where she demanded to know where Palestinians could get “justice” over wrongs that they claimed to have suffered.

Omar and Blinken had the following exchange:

OMAR: I know you oppose the court’s investigation in both Palestine and in Afghanistan. I haven’t seen any evidence in either cases that domestic courts can, both can and will prosecute alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. And I would emphasize that in Israel and Palestine, this includes crimes committed by both Israeli security forces, and Hamas. In Afghanistan, it includes crimes committed by the Afghan national government and the Taliban. So in both of these cases, if domestic courts can’t or won’t pursue justice, and we oppose the ICC, where do we think the victims of the supposed that crimes can go for justice? In both of these cases, if domestic courts can’t or won’t see justice, and we oppose the ICC, where do we think victims are supposed to go for justice? And what justice mechanisms do you support for them?

BLINKEN: Thank you. First, let me just say at the outset, that it is impossible not to be profoundly moved by not just the loss of life in the recent violence and conflict, but especially the children whose whose lives were lost. And we all have a, you know, tendency to throw statistics and numbers out there, but we were talking about boys and girls, Israelis and Palestinians, as well as men and women. And I think none of us for whatever, from whatever perspective, we come, can can lose sight of that. So that’s one thing that’s very important. Look, I, you know, our views on the ICC, and its its jurisdiction, we continue to believe that absent a Security Council referral, or absent the request by the state itself, that that’s not appropriate. I continue to believe that whether it is the United States or Israel, both of us have the means–

OMAR: Mr. Secretary, I do understand that point, I’m asking what mechanisms do [inaudible] is available to them?

BLINKEN: I believe that we have, whether it’s the United States or Israel, we both have the mechanisms to make sure that there’s accountability in any situations where there are concerns about the use of force and human rights, etc. I believe that both of our democracies have that capacity, and we’ve demonstrated it, and we’ll need to continue to demonstrate it going forward.

OMAR: And in the case of Afghanistan?

BLINKEN: With regard to Afghanistan, if it’s our objection, as you know, it was to the assertion of jurisdiction over the United States in the absence of a Security Council referral. And I believe that we have the means if there are any cases to be brought to, to adjudicate them and to find justice.



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If the US is so terrible why doesn’t she just go back to her Somalian paradise?
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To think there is a democrat congressional district that would elect this type of representation is truly disgusting.

Not even Tommy Psaki will come to her defense.
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(06-08-2021 07:32 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  To think there is a democrat congressional district that would elect this type of representation is truly disgusting.

Not even Tommy Psaki will come to her defense.

But I bet swag, marc and danforth will.
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(06-08-2021 07:39 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:32 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  To think there is a democrat congressional district that would elect this type of representation is truly disgusting.

Not even Tommy Psaki will come to her defense.

But I bet swag, marc and danforth will.

Guarantee it
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The only unthinkable atrocity is her district voting her into our Congress....
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(06-08-2021 08:18 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:39 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:32 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  To think there is a democrat congressional district that would elect this type of representation is truly disgusting.
Not even Tommy Psaki will come to her defense.
But I bet swag, marc and danforth will.
Guarantee it

And then argue that they are "moderates" who don't support this kind of radicalism.
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I don't know about the United States but I agree with everyone else on that list.
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Quote:House Democrats released a statement on Wednesday night condemning Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-NY) for comparing the United States and Israel to an Islamic terrorist organization. Only 12 Democrats condemned Omar, which is less than 6% of the total number of Democrats in the House of Representatives.

“We must have the same level of accountability and justice for all victims of crimes against humanity,” Omar wrote on Twitter earlier this week. “We have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by the U.S., Hamas, Israel, Afghanistan, and the Taliban.”

Reps. Brad Schneider (IL), Jake Auchincloss (MA), Ted Deutch (FL), Lois Frankel (FL), Josh Gottheimer (NJ), Elaine Luria (VA), Kathy Manning (NC), Jerrold Nadler (NY), Dean Phillips (MN), Kim Schrier (WA), Brad Sherman (CA), and Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL) slammed Omar in a statement.

“Equating the United States and Israel to Hamas and the Taliban is as offensive as it is misguided,” they wrote. “Ignoring the differences between democracies governed by the rule of law and contemptible organizations that engage in terrorism at best discredits one’s intended argument and at worst reflects deep-seated prejudice.”

“The United States and Israel are imperfect, and like all democracies, at times deserving of critique, but false equivalence give cover to terrorist groups,” they continued. “We urge Congresswoman Omar to clarify her words placing the U.S. and Israel in the same category as Hamas and the Taliban.”

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Quote:Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and other leading Democrats issued a statement Thursday afternoon thanking Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) for a statement she issued Thursday morning “clarifying” a tweet Omar posted equating the United States and Israel to the terrorist regimes, Hamas and the Taliban — sidestepping calls to address Omar’s shocking language.

In the tweet, Omar suggested that the United States and Israel had committed “unthinkable atrocities” on part with those committed by terrorist organizations, including Hamas and the Taliban. In a short video, Omar demanded to know where “people are supposed to go for justice” for “crimes against humanity.”

The incident set off a firestorm on social media and among Omar’s colleagues, though only around a dozen House Democrats, led by Illinois Rep. Brad Schneider, signed on to a statement publicly rebuking the “Squad” member and Minnesota Democrat.

“Equating the United States and Israel to Hamas and the Taliban is as offensive as it is misguided,” the group wrote. “Ignoring the differences between democracies governed by the rule of law and contemptible organizations that engage in terrorism at best discredits one’s intended argument and at worst reflects deep-seated prejudice.”

In a statement issued Thursday morning, Omar claimed that she was merely asking Blinken about cases pending before the International Criminal Court. She was asking about “accountability for specific incidents regarding those ICC cases,” she said, not establishing a “moral comparison between Hamas and the Taliban and the U.S. and Israel.”

“I was in no way equating terrorist organizations with democratic countries with well-established judicial systems,” Omar claimed, shying away from any commentary on the “unthinkable atrocities” she appeared to attribute to the U.S. and Israel.

Pelosi and fellow House Democrats, including Majority Leader Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD) and Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), issued their own statement in appreciation of Omar’s “clarification.”

“Legitimate criticism of the policies of both the United States and Israel is protected by the values of free speech and democratic debate, and indeed, such criticism is essential to the strength and health of our democracies. But drawing false equivalencies between democracies like the U.S. and Israel and groups that engage in terrorism like Hamas and the Taliban foments prejudice and undermines progress toward a future of peace and security for all,” the group wrote.

“We welcome the clarification by Congresswoman Omar that there is no more equivalency between the U.S. and Israel and Hamas and the Taliban,” they said.

Omar, however, did not use the word “moral” in her clarification.

Omar also seems uninterested in apologizing for the impact of her remarks. Instead of acknowledging the statement made by a dozen of her colleagues, she blasted the group in a response — also issued Thursday morning — accusing the twelve Democrats of using “Islamophobic tropes.”

Pelosi has not indicated whether she will take any further action, beyond accepting Omar’s clarification.

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I don’t think there is a less likable person in the country than this crazy *****.

Christ, she makes Pelosi look warm and cuddly.
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(06-10-2021 05:42 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I don’t think there is a less likable person in the country than this crazy *****.

Christ, she makes Pelosi look warm and cuddly.

Well, when Pelosi comes off as the sane one of the bunch then you know it's bad.
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In what other country can an immigrant rise to such a position of political power, a female immigrant at that, than the overtly racist, xenophobic, US of A?

As far as her being elected, she represents a Somoli district with low voter participation.
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(06-11-2021 08:16 AM)banker Wrote:  In what other country can an immigrant rise to such a position of political power, a female immigrant at that, than the overtly racist, xenophobic, US of A?

As far as her being elected, she represents a Somoli district with low voter participation.

A lot of people don't realize that in a whole lot of these blue chithole places there is extremely low voter turnout and often there isn't even a republican running for the office in question. If they have no opposition they can vote them self in.
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(06-11-2021 08:51 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 08:16 AM)banker Wrote:  In what other country can an immigrant rise to such a position of political power, a female immigrant at that, than the overtly racist, xenophobic, US of A?

As far as her being elected, she represents a Somoli district with low voter participation.

A lot of people don't realize that in a whole lot of these blue chithole places there is extremely low voter turnout and often there isn't even a republican running for the office in question. If they have no opposition they can vote them self in.

Rotten Boroughs, look it up.
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(06-08-2021 09:10 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 08:18 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:39 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:32 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  To think there is a democrat congressional district that would elect this type of representation is truly disgusting.
Not even Tommy Psaki will come to her defense.
But I bet swag, marc and danforth will.
Guarantee it

And then argue that they are "moderates" who don't support this kind of radicalism.

Just for the record, I'm not a fan of "the squad".
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(06-11-2021 11:11 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:10 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 08:18 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:39 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:32 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  To think there is a democrat congressional district that would elect this type of representation is truly disgusting.
Not even Tommy Psaki will come to her defense.
But I bet swag, marc and danforth will.
Guarantee it

And then argue that they are "moderates" who don't support this kind of radicalism.

Just for the record, I'm not a fan of "the squad".

@indirectlyPerpetualScum = ewes
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Quote:According to a statement on their website (yes, Hamas has an official website), while they thank Omar for her defense, they’re disturbed that she compared them to the U.S. and Israel. No joke.



You can read the whole statement on the site, which is a festival of propaganda, but here’s the pertinent part.

The remarks made by US congresswoman Ilhan Omar are very peculiar; she equated between the victim and the executioner when she treated the resistance of the Palestinian people, the Israeli crimes in Palestine, and the US aggression in Afghanistan as an equal footing.
Hamas highly appreciates Omar’s stances in support of justice and the rights of the oppressed around the world, foremost among them is the just rights of the Palestinian people. However, it is unacceptable to make such an unfair comparison, which contradicts with basic norms of justice and international law. [….]

Thus, we hope that US Rep. Ilhan Omar and all defenders of Palestinian rights make effort to provide a proper and accurate description of the situation, as this is the starting point to lay the foundations for a fair solution for this prolonged state of injustice and denial of the Palestinian people’s rights.

Now, that’s pretty hilarious, when even Hamas is busting what she has to say. When she tried to skewer Israel and the U.S., she unintentionally antagonized them. Basically they’re telling her, “Get your propaganda straight if you want to defend us, lady.”

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Omar is an evil woman. The eyes don't lie. That beeyotch is dangerous.
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This thread has made one thing clear. Nobody wants to admit their side is capable of and has done terrible things.
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