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RE: Moussa Cisse Receives A G League Elite Camp Invitation
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
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(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA but it sure as heck didn’t translate to pro ball. Moussa’s footwork is terrible and he was oftentimes out of position because of his complete lack of feel for the game. He could overcome that, somewhat, in the college game because of his athletic ability but he’ll foul out in 10 minutes in the pros… be it the NBA or the G league. The guy needs to learn the game and develop a feel for it.

Fantastic, those are two completely different topics. You stated Cisse wasn't prepared for the American. Clearly, he was plenty prepared as he was the best freshman in the league.

Saying that will not translate into him being a good pro next year is wildly different than saying he was not prepared for the AAC... I agree he is not ready for the NBA and being AAC player of the year does not translate to NBA success. However, not having a future NBA career also does not translate into not being "college ready".
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So, has anyone determined whether the attending the camp has an impact on his eligibility if he is not invited to the G Leave Elite?
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(06-08-2021 01:32 PM)micman Wrote:  So, has anyone determined whether the attending the camp has an impact on his eligibility if he is not invited to the G Leave Elite?

I doubt that the "camp" does - as long as they wrap it up by end of month. That's the projected deadline to withdraw from the Draft and retain eligibility.

I also doubt that it matters to us. He very likely ain't coming round here no more either way.
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(06-08-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 01:32 PM)micman Wrote:  So, has anyone determined whether the attending the camp has an impact on his eligibility if he is not invited to the G Leave Elite?

I doubt that the "camp" does - as long as they wrap it up by end of month. That's the projected deadline to withdraw from the Draft and retain eligibility.

I also doubt that it matters to us. He very likely ain't coming round here no more either way.

The longer it goes on the less chance he comes back. At this point I think he ends up somewhere else or overseas.
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You can be a not so great D1 player and get drafted high on potential. IF you don't put it together in the G-League, it isn't happening.
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RE: Moussa Cisse Receives A G League Elite Camp Invitation
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
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(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA

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because of his potential Moussa maybe the portal transfer we miss the most. to some extent Boogie could have become an important player for us. None of the rest will be missed hope they are happy in their new homes.
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(06-08-2021 07:05 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA

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Thabeet was a very good college player though.
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(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA but it sure as heck didn’t translate to pro ball. Moussa’s footwork is terrible and he was oftentimes out of position because of his complete lack of feel for the game. He could overcome that, somewhat, in the college game because of his athletic ability but he’ll foul out in 10 minutes in the pros… be it the NBA or the G league. The guy needs to learn the game and develop a feel for it.

Read what you posted in this thread. You are confused.
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(06-08-2021 04:22 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 01:32 PM)micman Wrote:  So, has anyone determined whether the attending the camp has an impact on his eligibility if he is not invited to the G Leave Elite?

I doubt that the "camp" does - as long as they wrap it up by end of month. That's the projected deadline to withdraw from the Draft and retain eligibility.

I also doubt that it matters to us. He very likely ain't coming round here no more either way.

The longer it goes on the less chance he comes back. At this point I think he ends up somewhere else or overseas.

Maybe. But I wonder how a hire like *Larry Brown* would enter into Moussa's thought process.
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(06-08-2021 07:05 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA

Ouch! 03-lmfao

But that is literally an argument against himself. By his standard Thabeet was not ready for the college basketball because he could not hack it in the NBA despite being a 1st team All American...
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(06-09-2021 07:24 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 04:22 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 03:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 01:32 PM)micman Wrote:  So, has anyone determined whether the attending the camp has an impact on his eligibility if he is not invited to the G Leave Elite?

I doubt that the "camp" does - as long as they wrap it up by end of month. That's the projected deadline to withdraw from the Draft and retain eligibility.

I also doubt that it matters to us. He very likely ain't coming round here no more either way.

The longer it goes on the less chance he comes back. At this point I think he ends up somewhere else or overseas.

Maybe. But I wonder how a hire like *Larry Brown* would enter into Moussa's thought process.

I can't wait to hear if that rumor has legs....not saying you're spreading a rumor. i'm saying I keep hearing it from different people (without solid background info).
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Maybe he goes to this camp and realizes that Penny is the best coach for him.
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(06-09-2021 09:29 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:05 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA

Ouch! 03-lmfao

But that is literally an argument against himself. By his standard Thabeet was not ready for the college basketball because he could not hack it in the NBA despite being a 1st team All American...

Cisse was a 6 & 6 guy in the American which makes it hard to believe he was Conference Freshman of the Year worthy when Precious was 16 & 10 the year before. I think we can all agree there’s a light year of difference in Cisse & Achiewa as freshmen. Cisse has athletic ability which sometimes made up for his lack of understanding but, in my opinion, he was unprepared for the college game and often looked completely lost on the court. If you made it to games at the forum, seeing the entire floor gave it some context.
What frustrates me with Cisse is he did improve defensively as the year progressed yet he seems unwilling to accept where his game actually was when he enrolled; and obviously blames Penny for his draft status. Penny often played Moussa when others might have been deserving of minutes, but Moussa was a project with upside. Bottom line, the kid went to 3 different HS’ in 3 years and will soon be at his 2nd college in 2… he needs to accept where he is and work his ass off to live up to his ability.
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(06-09-2021 10:29 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:29 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 07:05 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:30 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

and Hasheem Thabeet was a 1st team AA

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But that is literally an argument against himself. By his standard Thabeet was not ready for the college basketball because he could not hack it in the NBA despite being a 1st team All American...

Cisse was a 6 & 6 guy in the American which makes it hard to believe he was Conference Freshman of the Year worthy when Precious was 16 & 10 the year before. I think we can all agree there’s a light year of difference in Cisse & Achiewa as freshmen. Cisse has athletic ability which sometimes made up for his lack of understanding but, in my opinion, he was unprepared for the college game and often looked completely lost on the court. If you made it to games at the forum, seeing the entire floor gave it some context.
What frustrates me with Cisse is he did improve defensively as the year progressed yet he seems unwilling to accept where his game actually was when he enrolled; and obviously blames Penny for his draft status. Penny often played Moussa when others might have been deserving of minutes, but Moussa was a project with upside. Bottom line, the kid went to 3 different HS’ in 3 years and will soon be at his 2nd college in 2… he needs to accept where he is and work his ass off to live up to his ability.

Not sure of his mindset but that right there is not a good sign.
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(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

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(06-09-2021 10:42 AM)steves Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

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Two ways you can look at this...

Did he perform well...Absolutely. So if you measure preparedness on the stats he puts up then yes he was prepared.

If you measure preparedness based on how developed his skills were for college than he was not prepared.

Depends on your outlook.
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(06-09-2021 10:47 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 10:42 AM)steves Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 10:15 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:05 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Moussa wasn’t prepared for the American. He’d get abused in the G League. He’d do better to find a college program and work his ass off to get better.

Wasn't prepared? He was the AAC freshman of the year...

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Two ways you can look at this...

Did he perform well...Absolutely. So if you measure preparedness on the stats he puts up then yes he was prepared.

If you measure preparedness based on how developed his skills were for college than he was not prepared.

Depends on your outlook.

If you look at how prepared he was for a high school senior that played 4 years, he was very prepared. If you look at how he played as a D1 freshman, he handled some things very well and other things not as well. If you look at where he should be this year, I am betting that he will average 10-12 points and 8-10 rebounds. He achieved 6 and 6 playing 18 minutes and being horrible at free throws.

With all his flaws, the only one that truly mattered was his free throw shooting. IF he shoots free throws better, he is on the floor more, has more experience and learns more.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/2021-nba-draft-...29175.html

Includes photo of Cisse in Tigers game.
I guess the optics are better if Cisse stays in the draft.
I guess it wouldn't surprise me if he leverages the G-league camp into a Draft Combine invitation.
I'll be shocked if he's drafted, though.
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(06-16-2021 10:17 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  https://sports.yahoo.com/2021-nba-draft-...29175.html

Includes photo of Cisse in Tigers game.
I guess the optics are better if Cisse stays in the draft.
I guess it wouldn't surprise me if he leverages the G-league camp into a Draft Combine invitation.
I'll be shocked if he's drafted, though.

In retrospect, If his goal was to get to the NBA as quickly as possible, he would have been better off staying in high school his senior season. The next best option would be for him to stay at Memphis for another year. Without knowing anything about his situation; it looks like everyone around him has cashed in, and they are in a hurry to keep cashing in, without regard for what is best for him.
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