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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
(06-15-2021 06:09 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-15-2021 07:11 AM)fanfrompowellspub Wrote:  Many Skilled trades apprenticeships open right now to high school graduates. Wayne County Sheriff is holding a job fair for deputies anyone over 18 can apply. Lot of good paying jobs not requiring college uniquely open right now that were not ten years ago. I would hypothesize that is a reason undergrad attendance is down and will continue to go down until that trend changes.

I essentially agree with you.

HOWEVER, it depends if the associates or bachelor degree is a wise career path.

An associates degree in psychology is of little value. An associates degree in a technology presumably is very valuable. An associates degree which is a prerequisite for a 4-year degree is worthwhile (good way to save money - if one plans to do grad work saving money the first two years might not be a bad thing.).

And yes there is now a big emphasis on graduate degree in many areas and enrollment is increasing.. Lot of therapy positions (e.g.. physical, occupational, speech and language, etc.) are advanced degrees. I assume more and more teachers are getting grad degrees. Business is a MBA haven. Lot of other fields have always required a masters or beyond (e.g., social work, clinical or school psych, etc.).

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The Fan hit the nail on the head once again! I can honestly say from first hand experience that I know auto mechanics, plumbers, welders and HVAC guys who gross over $100K a year, in Michigan that is REALLY good money. Unlike many recent college grads they are not whining about their student debt even while that degree indeed provides all the "prestige they can eat". Also when was the last time you heard of the aforementioned professions losing their jobs due to "offshoring"?

Steve you are spot on as well. The educational model of the past needs refreshing for sure. As you alluded to, a liberal arts degree is unpractical for most.

In Canada the community colleges are vocational trade schools where unions offer apprentices as part of the classes in some cases. You can get your education paid for 100% if there is,a labor shortage in that trade.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
(06-16-2021 03:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(06-15-2021 06:09 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-15-2021 08:29 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-15-2021 07:11 AM)fanfrompowellspub Wrote:  Many Skilled trades apprenticeships open right now to high school graduates. Wayne County Sheriff is holding a job fair for deputies anyone over 18 can apply. Lot of good paying jobs not requiring college uniquely open right now that were not ten years ago. I would hypothesize that is a reason undergrad attendance is down and will continue to go down until that trend changes.

I essentially agree with you.

HOWEVER, it depends if the associates or bachelor degree is a wise career path.

An associates degree in psychology is of little value. An associates degree in a technology presumably is very valuable. An associates degree which is a prerequisite for a 4-year degree is worthwhile (good way to save money - if one plans to do grad work saving money the first two years might not be a bad thing.).

And yes there is now a big emphasis on graduate degree in many areas and enrollment is increasing.. Lot of therapy positions (e.g.. physical, occupational, speech and language, etc.) are advanced degrees. I assume more and more teachers are getting grad degrees. Business is a MBA haven. Lot of other fields have always required a masters or beyond (e.g., social work, clinical or school psych, etc.).

.

The Fan hit the nail on the head once again! I can honestly say from first hand experience that I know auto mechanics, plumbers, welders and HVAC guys who gross over $100K a year, in Michigan that is REALLY good money. Unlike many recent college grads they are not whining about their student debt even while that degree indeed provides all the "prestige they can eat". Also when was the last time you heard of the aforementioned professions losing their jobs due to "offshoring"?

Steve you are spot on as well. The educational model of the past needs refreshing for sure. As you alluded to, a liberal arts degree is unpractical for most.

In Canada the community colleges are vocational trade schools where unions offer apprentices as part of the classes in some cases. You can get your education paid for 100% if there is,a labor shortage in that trade.

The current federal administration has brought up the prospect of free pre-k and community college. i'd like to see that but it remains to be seen if the opposition party would allow such a move.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
Kalamazoo plays a huge role in the Pfizer vaccine production. And a WMU alum was a big part of it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...rs-supply/
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
https://twitter.com/ecwilliams30/status/...76/photo/1

This is D.C.'s Audi Field, a stadium built for futbol, not football, but hosted football before the pandemic came. (D.C. Defenders).

What it shows is that how, and why not (?), can a stadium be built with a roof over the stands. Last I checked, the South (esp.) can have heavy rains and scorching sun during the FB season.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
(06-18-2021 01:40 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ecwilliams30/status/...76/photo/1

This is D.C.'s Audi Field, a stadium built for futbol, not football, but hosted football before the pandemic came. (D.C. Defenders).

What it shows is that how, and why not (?), can a stadium be built with a roof over the stands. Last I checked, the South (esp.) can have heavy rains and scorching sun during the FB season.

i think we all have idea as to what wed donate to the school if we won the powerball
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(06-18-2021 02:27 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-18-2021 01:40 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ecwilliams30/status/...76/photo/1

This is D.C.'s Audi Field, a stadium built for futbol, not football, but hosted football before the pandemic came. (D.C. Defenders).

What it shows is that how, and why not (?), can a stadium be built with a roof over the stands. Last I checked, the South (esp.) can have heavy rains and scorching sun during the FB season.

i think we all have idea as to what wed donate to the school if we won the powerball

True, but how many new football stadiums are not intelligently designed?

In the Midwest, could some 'weatherproofing' be built in (such as glass enclosure at the end of the grand stands to block what would be north/south or south/north winds at a stadium like Rynearson?

There are 3 elements of concern: rain/snow, wind, and temperatures. Obviously, only an indoor stadium controls all, but intelligent design can partially alleviate say 2 of the 3 elements.

Matter of fact, race tracks used to have enclosed grandstands as they raced pretty much all year.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
(06-18-2021 02:40 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-18-2021 02:27 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-18-2021 01:40 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ecwilliams30/status/...76/photo/1

This is D.C.'s Audi Field, a stadium built for futbol, not football, but hosted football before the pandemic came. (D.C. Defenders).

What it shows is that how, and why not (?), can a stadium be built with a roof over the stands. Last I checked, the South (esp.) can have heavy rains and scorching sun during the FB season.

i think we all have idea as to what wed donate to the school if we won the powerball

True, but how many new football stadiums are not intelligently designed?

In the Midwest, could some 'weatherproofing' be built in (such as glass enclosure at the end of the grand stands to block what would be north/south or south/north winds at a stadium like Rynearson?

There are 3 elements of concern: rain/snow, wind, and temperatures. Obviously, only an indoor stadium controls all, but intelligent design can partially alleviate say 2 of the 3 elements.

Matter of fact, race tracks used to have enclosed grandstands as they raced pretty much all year.

If you want to see gridiron stadiums designed to deal with the elements - look no further than up north. Mosaic Stadium and IG Field (Regina and Winnipeg) have covered stands that are still open air:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_Stadium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Field

Obviously - this is powerball territory for us.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
Matt Cline is now at Cleveland St.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
Covid costs N.C. State their ability to play on in the CWS.

https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/14086...96289?s=20
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(06-26-2021 07:05 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Covid costs N.C. State their ability to play on in the CWS.

https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/14086...96289?s=20

a total and complete failure of leadership at NC State not to get the players vaccinated.
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RE: Monday Musings June Edition
Today's June 30 question, the day before the first day of July:

Will we have Monday Musings July Edition on Monday, or will it be delayed by the Federal holiday? 03-lmfao
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