RE: GA Election Update: Fulton county supervisor and daughter have been subpoenaed
(06-07-2021 09:06 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-07-2021 08:54 AM)banker Wrote:
(06-07-2021 08:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-06-2021 09:48 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: This was the woman who was identified by her purse in the state farm arena video, where they sent everyone home for the night and then started pulling ballots out from under the tables. Her daughter also worked there at the time. Both have been subpoenaed for a deposition.
I smell a pleading of the 5th in their near future.
You're either the stupidest mope around here or just a willful liar. Which is it?
Quote:Reporters for Lead Stories spoke with Sterling about the surveillance video. They also talked to Frances Watson, the Georgia secretary of state’s chief investigator, and an unidentified state election board monitor who was present in the room late on election night.
The ballots seen in the video were not in suitcases, the officials told Lead Stories. They were in standard ballot containers. And there was nothing illegal about the way they were processed.
In reality, the ballots had been removed from their envelopes and processed while news media personnel and observers were still in the room. Nobody was ever told to leave, Watson told Lead Stories. But some observers exited after the election workers responsible for opening the envelopes and verifying the ballots had finished their job and started taking off for the night.
The tweets from the election board notifying people they were stopping the count for the night have been shared on here before and you were in that thread and saw them. Quit posting the lie. From Yahoo on election night:
Yes...we all know that. That doesn't mean any of the observers were told to leave!
Not only were they told counting was done for the night, it was reported by the NYT. We also have audio from the state farm arena.
Somebody is really nervous today.
Right...and the plans changed, and they stayed. Nobody told the observers they had to leave at any time.
You also have the full video showing there was nothing illegal nor nefarious about the sealed voting boxes under the table, yet you still lie about them.
The tweets from the election board notifying people they were stopping the count for the night have been shared on here before and you were in that thread and saw them. Quit posting the lie. From Yahoo on election night:
Yes...we all know that. That doesn't mean any of the observers were told to leave! It just doesn't. The counters originally thought they were going to stop so they started preparing to do so. Then they were told to stay. The observers were free to come and go as they wanted. If they left, that's on them.
Regardless, the ballots in the sealed election boxes were previously opened in front of observers and all of it was on camera. Nothing was illegal.
So your rational is that they told people they were done counting for the night, but it’s the observers fault that they believed them and left thinking there would be nothing to observe? The fact that they lied about stopping the count is fine in your eyes?
Nobody lied! They workers were originally told they were done and could leave, so they started packing up. Then they were told to go ahead and stay and finish. Nobody lied about anything.
So you honestly believe that the announcement that they were stopping for the night wasnt intended as a ploy to get the observers to leave? If you believe that, can you explain to me why they never notified the press that they were resuming the count? They let them know they were stopping, but never told anyone they were restarting. Why would they make the painful decision to stop, knowing the whole country was watching, but not make the positive announcement they restarted?
It takes an unbelievable amount of intellectual dishonesty to support your position.
RE: GA Election Update: Fulton county supervisor and daughter have been subpoenaed
(06-07-2021 11:25 AM)banker Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:05 AM)banker Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-07-2021 08:54 AM)banker Wrote: The tweets from the election board notifying people they were stopping the count for the night have been shared on here before and you were in that thread and saw them. Quit posting the lie. From Yahoo on election night:
Yes...we all know that. That doesn't mean any of the observers were told to leave! It just doesn't. The counters originally thought they were going to stop so they started preparing to do so. Then they were told to stay. The observers were free to come and go as they wanted. If they left, that's on them.
Regardless, the ballots in the sealed election boxes were previously opened in front of observers and all of it was on camera. Nothing was illegal.
So your rational is that they told people they were done counting for the night, but it’s the observers fault that they believed them and left thinking there would be nothing to observe? The fact that they lied about stopping the count is fine in your eyes?
Nobody lied! They workers were originally told they were done and could leave, so they started packing up. Then they were told to go ahead and stay and finish. Nobody lied about anything.
So you honestly believe that the announcement that they were stopping for the night wasnt intended as a ploy to get the observers to leave? If you believe that, can you explain to me why they never notified the press that they were resuming the count? They let them know they were stopping, but never told anyone they were restarting. Why would they make the painful decision to stop, knowing the whole country was watching, but not make the positive announcement they restarted?
It takes an unbelievable amount of intellectual dishonesty to support your position.
RE: GA Election Update: Fulton county supervisor and daughter have been subpoenaed
(06-07-2021 08:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-06-2021 09:48 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: This was the woman who was identified by her purse in the state farm arena video, where they sent everyone home for the night and then started pulling ballots out from under the tables. Her daughter also worked there at the time. Both have been subpoenaed for a deposition.
I smell a pleading of the 5th in their near future.
You're either the stupidest mope around here or just a willful liar. Which is it?
Quote:Reporters for Lead Stories spoke with Sterling about the surveillance video. They also talked to Frances Watson, the Georgia secretary of state’s chief investigator, and an unidentified state election board monitor who was present in the room late on election night.
The ballots seen in the video were not in suitcases, the officials told Lead Stories. They were in standard ballot containers. And there was nothing illegal about the way they were processed.
In reality, the ballots had been removed from their envelopes and processed while news media personnel and observers were still in the room. Nobody was ever told to leave, Watson told Lead Stories. But some observers exited after the election workers responsible for opening the envelopes and verifying the ballots had finished their job and started taking off for the night.
Fake news. Even the fake news networks reported that they had been escorted out at around 10pm and told there would no further counting for the night. Literally every major news network reported and showed reporters at the site being sent out. There is literally video of it happening.
This is the problem with so called "fact checkers". They arent really "fact checkers" at all....but some boobs continue to trot this crap out as if it means something. No matter what any election official says---the counting of ballots by a couple of lone wolf election officials in a cleared arena is not "normal", "typical", or "standard". Its also not "standard" to store unopened "standard ballot containers" hidden under a table in a room where virtually anyone could access them. They are stored in one controlled access location and are monitored until they are released to a specific counter one at a time. There was nothing normal about what we saw on that tape. Perhaps there was a reasonable explanation for what we saw---but it wasnt "normal" and any attempt to describe it that way just comes off as gas lighting.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2021 12:01 PM by Attackcoog.)
RE: GA Election Update: Fulton county supervisor and daughter have been subpoenaed
(06-07-2021 11:25 AM)banker Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:05 AM)banker Wrote:
(06-07-2021 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-07-2021 08:54 AM)banker Wrote: The tweets from the election board notifying people they were stopping the count for the night have been shared on here before and you were in that thread and saw them. Quit posting the lie. From Yahoo on election night:
Yes...we all know that. That doesn't mean any of the observers were told to leave! It just doesn't. The counters originally thought they were going to stop so they started preparing to do so. Then they were told to stay. The observers were free to come and go as they wanted. If they left, that's on them.
Regardless, the ballots in the sealed election boxes were previously opened in front of observers and all of it was on camera. Nothing was illegal.
So your rational is that they told people they were done counting for the night, but it’s the observers fault that they believed them and left thinking there would be nothing to observe? The fact that they lied about stopping the count is fine in your eyes?
Nobody lied! They workers were originally told they were done and could leave, so they started packing up. Then they were told to go ahead and stay and finish. Nobody lied about anything.
So you honestly believe that the announcement that they were stopping for the night wasnt intended as a ploy to get the observers to leave? If you believe that, can you explain to me why they never notified the press that they were resuming the count? They let them know they were stopping, but never told anyone they were restarting. Why would they make the painful decision to stop, knowing the whole country was watching, but not make the positive announcement they restarted?
It takes an unbelievable amount of intellectual dishonesty to support your position.
Nonsense.
Why? Why would there be some ploy to leave, when the entire process was on video from beginning to end?
And was there an official announcement from the state or county that they were stopping counting, or just media reports from the media there? I ask because if there was no official state or county announcement that they were stopping there would be no need for an official announcement to say there were resuming.
And the County Elections director explains that the decision to stop by the counters was apparently not an official directive from him as when he found out, he told them to keep counting. He explains all that here in this video:
It's also important to note that there are several types of workers. Cutters, Flatteners, and counters. The cutters and flatteners already processed all the available ballots, and that is what was sealed in the containers under the desk, so they left. The county director told them to keep counting, so that is why they counters then pulled these out and resumed counting.
Again, there is no law that says observers must be present in the room, so the county workers are under no obligation to make sure no one leaves.
Trying to assume that there was some nefarious activity here when the video proves otherwise and the recount affirms is the actual intellectual dishonesty.
You're basing your comments and conclusions on feels, I'm basing them on accounts from election officials and video evidence.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2021 12:36 PM by Redwingtom.)
RE: GA Election Update: Fulton county supervisor and daughter have been subpoenaed
(06-07-2021 11:45 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(06-07-2021 08:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-06-2021 09:48 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: This was the woman who was identified by her purse in the state farm arena video, where they sent everyone home for the night and then started pulling ballots out from under the tables. Her daughter also worked there at the time. Both have been subpoenaed for a deposition.
I smell a pleading of the 5th in their near future.
You're either the stupidest mope around here or just a willful liar. Which is it?
Quote:Reporters for Lead Stories spoke with Sterling about the surveillance video. They also talked to Frances Watson, the Georgia secretary of state’s chief investigator, and an unidentified state election board monitor who was present in the room late on election night.
The ballots seen in the video were not in suitcases, the officials told Lead Stories. They were in standard ballot containers. And there was nothing illegal about the way they were processed.
In reality, the ballots had been removed from their envelopes and processed while news media personnel and observers were still in the room. Nobody was ever told to leave, Watson told Lead Stories. But some observers exited after the election workers responsible for opening the envelopes and verifying the ballots had finished their job and started taking off for the night.
Fake news. Even the fake news networks reported that they had been escorted out at around 10pm and told there would no further counting for the night. Literally every major news network reported and showed reporters at the site being sent out. There is literally video of it happening.
This is the problem with so called "fact checkers". They arent really "fact checkers" at all....but some boobs continue to trot this crap out as if it means something. No matter what any election official says---the counting of ballots by a couple of lone wolf election officials in a cleared arena is not "normal", "typical", or "standard". Its also not "standard" to store unopened "standard ballot containers" hidden under a table in a room where virtually anyone could access them. They are stored in one controlled access location and are monitored until they are released to a specific counter one at a time. There was nothing normal about what we saw on that tape. Perhaps there was a reasonable explanation for what we saw---but it wasnt "normal" and any attempt to describe it that way just comes off as gas lighting.
Then you should have no problem finding a receipt or account of someone being escorted out and or told to leave, right?
Got links?
And your comments about the ballot boxes storage is complete fiction. This is indeed normal and the boxes were secured with tags you have to break to open and were on the video the whole time. Nobody accessed them at all that was not authorized to do so.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2021 12:40 PM by Redwingtom.)