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2021-2022 baseball
Since we aren't likely to get an at large bid, curious about thoughts for next year? REALLY young team, but we'll lose the CAA pitcher of the year as well as our Sunday starter on the mound Gesell, and Stalwart Cole Weiss. Any idea who else might be moving on that isn't a senior?

Looking at who started today, here's who might be here next year. I know players may be moving on to pro ball from this group, but have no idea who that might be. IF this entire group stayed, we will just need a 3rd. baseman and starting pitching as well as improving our bull pen.

Brooks Baldwin RS/So
Trevor Marsh RS/Fr
Matt Suggs RS/So
Dillon Lifreri RS/Fr
Noah Bridges RS/Jr
Kip Brandenberg RS/Jr
Jac Croom RS/Fr
Taber Mongero RS/So
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Yesterday was tough, but we lost to an excellent team. And while we lose a lot of veteran players next year (and perhaps a lot more; like you I have no idea who will get drafted and who else will leave), the same tantalizing potential we had entering this season when it came to the young talent on the roster looks even better next year, given that our 2021 freshmen/redshirt freshmen will be another year older and continue to develop.

Meanwhile, we will also have another terrific recruiting class behind it (I won't pretend to know what we have in next year's freshmen class, as any predictions I try to make end up way wrong; suffice it to say every freshman class we have has more and more quality talent every year).

I know we talked a lot about the pen and the lack of arms who developed by the end of the season. But we can also look at it like this: 2 freshmen arms carried us in the back end of games this past season. How much better will they be as sophomores? Especially Ethan Chenault, who arrived on campus with 1st round potential and showed no reason to believe he won't be a 1st round prospect when he's draft eligible following the 2022 season.

I imagine there's a chance Chenault ends up in the weekend rotation, given that his first appearance as a Seahawk was in a start. He spent the rest of the year in the pen, and he may well remain there in 2022, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a shot at a weekend spot, either. Hodges, meanwhile, struggled at the end of last season, but keep this in mind: In his first 8 outings, he only allowed 1 run, and in that stretch he K'd 23 batters. Later, towards the end of April, he had another stretch of 7 outings where he allowed just 1 run, with 17 K's in that span. After seeing those flashes of dominance, its hard not to get excited about what he can do the rest of his career.

Throw in redshirt freshmen Cole and Cody Benton and that's a quartet of freshmen that could make for an impressive young bullpen core for the next 1-2 seasons.

As I said earlier, I have no idea who get drafted, be back, etc. But when it comes to the weekend rotation, if Adam Smith is back, that's one heck of a Friday arm. But whether we have him or not, losing Roupp especially, plus Gesell, turns the rotation into a big question mark. I would guess Chenault will be in the conversation. As will freshman Jacob Shafer, who Coach Hood handed the ball to in a championship setting. He didn't pitch great in that outing but overall on the season he wasn't bad (3-1, 5.29 ERA, 25 K's, 6 BB's, 32.1 innings, 5 starts). Even though he only had 5 starts, he did log the 5th most innings on the team, so you at least have to start there when looking at options already on the roster. Ryan Calvert started 9 games for us but was less effective IMO, even though his ERA was lower (5.13). He averaged less than 3 innings per start and had a K:BB ratio of 29/16 in his midweek role.

The only other pitcher to receive a start in 2021 was redshirt freshman Carter Holjes, who started 2 games and posted a 5.40 ERA. He wasn't used much late in the season but perhaps will have a bigger role next year. If I had to guess at a dark horse candidate, why not Gage Herring, if he comes back? If he's not considered purely a reliever next year it would be cool to see him jump back into the starter mix. It's been a while, but he did make 21 starts between his freshmen and sophomore years from 2018-19. In his freshman year he went 2-1 with a 2.68 ERA, with 43 K's and 25 BB's in in 50.1 innings of work.

The offense/defense is of the least concern for me, even with the loss of Cole Weiss, and even if we lose more players than we bargain for. Starting a freshman 2B/SS combo meant growing pains in 2021, but by 2022, Croom and Mongero will be seasoned veterans. Lifrieri, who I've talked up all season, is my favorite returning hitter. He kept creeping up in the lineup, finishing the season batting 5th, but I like the idea of him batting in the 2-hole behind the switch hitter Baldwin. With the way Lifrieri loves hitting the ball to the right side, he'll make life difficult for opposing defenses all season in that spot.

As far as the "unknowns" in the lineup, there's a lot of guys I really hope develop over the course of the offseason. I had high hopes for Ron Evans, especially after he slugged .467 in 45 AB's in the shortened 2019 season. But the only position for him appears to be 1B, and that's taken, so it'll likely be another season of him hoping to DH against lefties unless he makes major improvements and starts hitting breaking pitches well. True freshman Jack Howell, who DH'd several times against righties last season, will get his chances to be a big lefty bat we need with Cole's departure. If we don't have anyone we feel confident putting at 3B as the offseason goes on, I'm sure the JUCO route will prove fruitful, if we haven't already added someone already.

Big picture: I think we have a lot of the pieces in place, but so many of the pitching slots are up for grabs and hard to project. I also think we have a solid coaching approach, as per usual, but need to take a close look at how we can improve our pitch-calling. And on offense, we have to play Seahawk baseball, where everybody is playing selfless, willing and able to bunt, etc. It yielded results at the tail end of the season when the "lightbulb went on" and the team seemed like it had bought into the system. Next year, let's try to hit the ground running with that.

We've been to 6 straight CAA title games, so in order for a season to be deemed successful, that's going to be the minimal expectations for this program every year, along with putting together a strong OOC resume.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Good information Nation. Perfect Game lists the Hawks with 4-5 recruits north of 90 mph! Several of the recruits were top 500 too so this is a very good class on paper.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
As far as the MLB draft goes, the only current Seahawk in this publication's Top 500 is Noah Bridges, at # 422:

https://www.prospectslive.com/mlb-draft/...0/450-test

422 Noah Bridges OF UNC Wilmington

One of the fastest players in the class. Long strider who makes his money on the base paths. Hit tools lags a little bit. Needs to get on base to optimize his impact on the field. Good range in the field. Takes decent routes.


None of our incoming recruits made the list. But this is just one publication, and there's still time for things to change. No one really ends up knowing where and when guys will get taken once you get past the top 20-30 prospects or so. The draft is usually in early June, but this year it was pushed back to July 11-13.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Here is a link to several of the next recruiting class. Several highly regarded players are here. It’s hard to project sometimes because even a guy like Brooks was not ranked high by them and he’s very good. You have to click on the correct graduation year to get each class.

https://www.perfectgame.org/college/Coll...llege=1808
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Baseball America just updated/expanded their rankings to Top 500 draft prospects.

243 Adam Smith
287 Martin Gair (commit)
303 Landen Roupp
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(06-15-2021 09:15 AM)FLHawk Wrote:  Baseball America just updated/expanded their rankings to Top 500 draft prospects.

243 Adam Smith
287 Martin Gair (commit)
303 Landen Roupp

Roupp has been moving up per Baseball America. Updated

244 Adam Smith
254 Landen Roupp
290 Martin Gair
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I would not part much stock into these rankings or whatever you want to call them.
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(07-05-2021 09:59 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I would not part much stock into these rankings or whatever you want to call them.

Of course not but what exactly is the alternative? If you have inside knowledge on what scouts and front offices are thinking, please let us know.
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Wait, what? You mean Landen Roupp won't be taken at the exact 254th pick in the draft?!

Wow, what a ground-breaking piece of sports analysis.

Yeah mullet, we get it. It's the same way in every sport. Outside of maybe the top 3 picks in a draft, everything else changes either slightly or dramatically dependent on the round.

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(07-05-2021 10:01 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(07-05-2021 09:59 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  I would not part much stock into these rankings or whatever you want to call them.

Of course not but what exactly is the alternative? If you have inside knowledge on what scouts and front offices are thinking, please let us know.

There are always surprises in every draft as we all know. I would not be surprised to see Suggs and Baldwin drafted along with these guys. Gair is the wild card I think ,he could go really high and sign . Not many 18 year kids pumping 100 even if he has had some command issues- teams love the velo of course. Baldwin is not exactly killing at the Cape but he has had some good games there with tons of MLB scouts at every game he could easily catch the eye of somebody.
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(07-06-2021 10:30 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Wait, what? You mean Landen Roupp won't be taken at the exact 254th pick in the draft?!

Wow, what a ground-breaking piece of sports analysis.

Yeah mullet, we get it. It's the same way in every sport. Outside of maybe the top 3 picks in a draft, everything else changes either slightly or dramatically dependent on the round.

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Roupp and Smith could both go higher I think.
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Outside of the Top 500, BA has recruit Bryan Arendt ranked 34th in the state of NC and Noah Bridges 35th. Baldwin is not ranked.
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And Baldwin is terrific so the ratings are either old or not giving the proper love perhaps.
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I've been told that Noah will not be back. Don't understand that at all. I would have thought he would stay to help build his stock.
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(07-07-2021 12:29 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I've been told that Noah will not be back. Don't understand that at all. I would have thought he would stay to help build his stock.

I wonder if he's received info that he's ranked high enough that he sees it as his best financial option to go now?
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(07-07-2021 01:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 12:29 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I've been told that Noah will not be back. Don't understand that at all. I would have thought he would stay to help build his stock.

I wonder if he's received info that he's ranked high enough that he sees it as his best financial option to go now?

I have a problem with seeing how that works with so many minor league programs being shut down for now.
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(07-07-2021 10:04 AM)FLHawk Wrote:  Outside of the Top 500, BA has recruit Bryan Arendt ranked 34th in the state of NC and Noah Bridges 35th. Baldwin is not ranked.

Arendt is really athletic and might end up on the mound. The knock on him is he doesn't hit the ball for average at all.
Baldwin is by far the best player out of these 3 guys-IMO.
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(07-07-2021 10:04 AM)FLHawk Wrote:  Outside of the Top 500, BA has recruit Bryan Arendt ranked 34th in the state of NC and Noah Bridges 35th. Baldwin is not ranked.
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(07-07-2021 12:29 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  I've been told that Noah will not be back. Don't understand that at all. I would have thought he would stay to help build his stock.

I'll never knock a decision to leave while a player still has negotiating power. Yes, Noah might have ended up getting drafted higher with another year of seasoning. But he would have lost his negotiating power given that he'd have been in his final year of eligibility. So getting drafted even a few rounds earlier might not have given him any more signing bonus money than he'd get by leaving now.

And I'm not so sure how much he would have been able to improve his stock much, either, unless he had a monster season. After all, should Baldwin come back, he could have potentially run into playing time issues competing against Baldwin, Lifrieri, Marsh, and Thorburn, plus whoever else might emerge in our OF group next season.
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