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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(07-23-2021 12:33 AM)UNCW95 Wrote: (07-13-2021 07:49 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: So let's re-calibrate now with the draft over.
Martin Gair not getting drafted and making it onto campus is pretty huge for us now that our pitching staff is kind of hitting the reset button with a lot of young arms. Perfect Game had him as the # 1 RHP prospect in the state and # 5 overall. It's no small thing to have him end up a Seahawk.
With Noah Bridges going undrafted I have to wonder if he'll be back or if he ends up signing somewhere as an undrafted free agent. We'll see.
Let's assume, for our purposes, that all 3 draftees are gone. In which case I happily congratulate Landen, Adam and Brooks and wish all of them the best of luck.
The aftermath of this would be that we lose our top 3 most used pitchers from last season, a trio who racked up 247.2 innings and 37 starts. We'd only have the following returners who started any games last season:
- Ryan Calvert (9 starts): 1-2, 5.13 ERA, .272 BAA, 29 K's, 16 BB's, 26.1 innings
- Jacob Shafer (5 starts): 1-1, 5.29 ERA, .316 BAA, 25 K's, 6 BB's, 32.1 innings
- Ethan Chenault (1 start): 3-1, 4.03 ERA, .189 BAA, 24 K's, 10 BB's, 29.0 innings
- Carter Holjes (2 starts): 0-2, 5.40 ERA, .280 BAA, 11 K's, 6 BB's, 13.1 innings
I don't if any or all of those will be considered for the weekend rotation next season, but that's your starting point when looking for weekend options on the current roster.
Offensively, if we lose Baldwin and Bridges, I suppose you're now looking at a starting OF that consists of Lifrieri, Marsh, and a question mark. Bridges returning would be huge to give us 3 quality returning starters there, especially since I don't know who will play CF otherwise.
Bridges and Suggs are now playing in the Cape.....hearing both talked with teams but have decided to come back!!!
I think Bridges is looking to get signed and Suggs is coming back as is Baldwin unless he gets a huge bonus and that is highly unlikely. Baldwin was hitting at about .225 with a couple of doubles and one HR-not exactly helping himself there but the Cape is tough for hitters.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Roupp signed for 75k.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(07-12-2021 05:28 PM)82hawk Wrote: (07-11-2021 11:15 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: (07-11-2021 09:24 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: Surprised to see us ahead of EZ
To be fair, and I could be wrong, I think those numbers only include the players who actually played at each program. If players who committed to the school but never made it to campus due to getting drafted and signed out of HS were counted, ECU would pull ahead. Not that that should matter a whole lot.
Either way, it speaks to the talent level we have gotten and how similar were are to a very good EZU program. We're on the verge.
Does it really? Big difference in first and second rounders signing for millions vs 30 round guys signing for a pack of nabs and a coke
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-04-2021 02:09 PM)Tigerway29 Wrote: (07-12-2021 05:28 PM)82hawk Wrote: (07-11-2021 11:15 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: (07-11-2021 09:24 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: Surprised to see us ahead of EZ
To be fair, and I could be wrong, I think those numbers only include the players who actually played at each program. If players who committed to the school but never made it to campus due to getting drafted and signed out of HS were counted, ECU would pull ahead. Not that that should matter a whole lot.
Either way, it speaks to the talent level we have gotten and how similar were are to a very good EZU program. We're on the verge.
Does it really? Big difference in first and second rounders signing for millions vs 30 round guys signing for a pack of nabs and a coke
Of course it matters. The big difference for colleges isn't first or second round and signing bonuses, the big difference is how many players get signed to play pro ball at all. That represents the overall talent level that was on the teams. If one school has 20 in ten years, and the other has 3, that means something.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-04-2021 02:13 PM)82hawk Wrote: (08-04-2021 02:09 PM)Tigerway29 Wrote: (07-12-2021 05:28 PM)82hawk Wrote: (07-11-2021 11:15 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: (07-11-2021 09:24 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: Surprised to see us ahead of EZ
To be fair, and I could be wrong, I think those numbers only include the players who actually played at each program. If players who committed to the school but never made it to campus due to getting drafted and signed out of HS were counted, ECU would pull ahead. Not that that should matter a whole lot.
Either way, it speaks to the talent level we have gotten and how similar were are to a very good EZU program. We're on the verge.
Does it really? Big difference in first and second rounders signing for millions vs 30 round guys signing for a pack of nabs and a coke
Of course it matters. The big difference for colleges isn't first or second round and signing bonuses, the big difference is how many players get signed to play pro ball at all. That represents the overall talent level that was on the teams. If one school has 20 in ten years, and the other has 3, that means something.
Absolutely agree. When a coach can sit in a family living room and confidently tell a parent and recruit that we have had X # guys drafted in the last 10, 20 years that does a long ways. 90% of these kids would do anything to get drafted.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Any update on Baldwin? I didn't see that he signed and heard Coach Hood say he thought he'd be back but haven't seen any official confirmation.
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08-04-2021 09:26 PM |
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-04-2021 09:26 PM)Seahawks1619 Wrote: Any update on Baldwin? I didn't see that he signed and heard Coach Hood say he thought he'd be back but haven't seen any official confirmation.
He left the Cape shortly after the draft,not a great showing there which might have affected his status -maybe. Evidently he didn't get the money he was looking for and will be back at UNCW. Cotuit made the playoffs so Bridges and Suggs are still there.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
A family member told me sometime back, before Noah went to Cape Cod, he was not coming back. I'm thinking he has changed is mind. But only time will tell.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-05-2021 01:08 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: A family member told me sometime back, before Noah went to Cape Cod, he was not coming back. I'm thinking he has changed is mind. But only time will tell.
Draft and then FA agent talks are a lot for Player and families..... they have the local scouts tell these young men, that they are high on their team's draft boards. Not up to the local area scouts on which direction the team decides to go, and then have teams offer small signing bonuses. Bet with Noah and family that was what they were being told. He was offered FA deals after the 2020 season, and was most likely communicated to that he would be drafted, so they didn't believe he would be back. That kid loves playing at UNCW and bleeds Teal!! For the SEAHAWKS... hope he comes back, he is an amazing centerfielder.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-05-2021 09:46 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote: (08-04-2021 09:26 PM)Seahawks1619 Wrote: Any update on Baldwin? I didn't see that he signed and heard Coach Hood say he thought he'd be back but haven't seen any official confirmation.
He left the Cape shortly after the draft,not a great showing there which might have affected his status -maybe. Evidently he didn't get the money he was looking for and will be back at UNCW. Cotuit made the playoffs so Bridges and Suggs are still there.
Round one of CCBL playoffs, Cotuit vs. Bourne: YouTube home team to watch games live
Friday, August 6th: Cotuit at Bourne, 6:00 PM, Doran Park
Saturday, August 7th: Cotuit vs. Bourne, 4:00 PM, Lowell Park
Sunday, August 8th: Cotuit at Bourne, 6:00 PM, Doran Park (if necessary)
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-06-2021 02:39 AM)UNCW95 Wrote: (08-05-2021 01:08 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: A family member told me sometime back, before Noah went to Cape Cod, he was not coming back. I'm thinking he has changed is mind. But only time will tell.
Draft and then FA agent talks are a lot for Player and families..... they have the local scouts tell these young men, that they are high on their team's draft boards. Not up to the local area scouts on which direction the team decides to go, and then have teams offer small signing bonuses. Bet with Noah and family that was what they were being told. He was offered FA deals after the 2020 season, and was most likely communicated to that he would be drafted, so they didn't believe he would be back. That kid loves playing at UNCW and bleeds Teal!! For the SEAHAWKS... hope he comes back, he is an amazing centerfielder.
With the closing of so many minor league programs, I believe it to be in Noah's best interest to come back. His baserunning skills and his defensive prowess in the outfield are lights out. Along with an exceptionally strong arm. But he still has a lot of work to do with hitting. If he can shore that up, he should he a hot commodity, with a nice signing bonus.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-06-2021 12:55 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: (08-06-2021 02:39 AM)UNCW95 Wrote: (08-05-2021 01:08 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: A family member told me sometime back, before Noah went to Cape Cod, he was not coming back. I'm thinking he has changed is mind. But only time will tell.
Draft and then FA agent talks are a lot for Player and families..... they have the local scouts tell these young men, that they are high on their team's draft boards. Not up to the local area scouts on which direction the team decides to go, and then have teams offer small signing bonuses. Bet with Noah and family that was what they were being told. He was offered FA deals after the 2020 season, and was most likely communicated to that he would be drafted, so they didn't believe he would be back. That kid loves playing at UNCW and bleeds Teal!! For the SEAHAWKS... hope he comes back, he is an amazing centerfielder.
With the closing of so many minor league programs, I believe it to be in Noah's best interest to come back. His baserunning skills and his defensive prowess in the outfield are lights out. Along with an exceptionally strong arm. But he still has a lot of work to do with hitting. If he can shore that up, he should he a hot commodity, with a nice signing bonus.
Not sure if it is in his best interest to come back back it is in UNCWs best interest for sure. Bridges has a loopy swing and struggles with breaking balls because of that-cut down on the swing by hitting it backside might be the answer but everybody wants to hit HRs today . I think he will be back
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Hearing there might be a change coming with staff.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-25-2021 11:36 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:
Hearing there might be a change coming with staff.
what kind of a change?
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
Might be a coach leaving for personal reasons -not sure who .
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
I'm thinking we need a new pitching coach.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-25-2021 12:08 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: I'm thinking we need a new pitching coach.
I think they need to throw more fastballs for strikes myself and I am not sure a pitching coach change would fix that . To many guys spinning the ball and getting behind in the count and walk batters. If your ERA is over 4.00 not sure you should be on the mound very much . It’s great to strike out a lot of guys but that can’t be the objective .
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-25-2021 12:19 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: (08-25-2021 12:08 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: I'm thinking we need a new pitching coach.
I think they need to throw more fastballs for strikes myself and I am not sure a pitching coach change would fix that . To many guys spinning the ball and getting behind in the count and walk batters. If your ERA is over 4.00 not sure you should be on the mound very much . It’s great to strike out a lot of guys but that can’t be the objective .
There seems to be problem between pitchers and the pitching coach. I don't know enough to say what the issues are, but we have a number of disgruntled pitchers. Something isn't meshing there.
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
(08-25-2021 01:51 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: (08-25-2021 12:19 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: (08-25-2021 12:08 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: I'm thinking we need a new pitching coach.
I think they need to throw more fastballs for strikes myself and I am not sure a pitching coach change would fix that . To many guys spinning the ball and getting behind in the count and walk batters. If your ERA is over 4.00 not sure you should be on the mound very much . It’s great to strike out a lot of guys but that can’t be the objective .
There seems to be problem between pitchers and the pitching coach. I don't know enough to say what the issues are, but we have a number of disgruntled pitchers. Something isn't meshing there.
Hard to know what that is about but it is a fact that a lot of pitchers didn’t get much mound time for whatever reason -who knows the real reason. College baseball coaches are all about the same when it comes to number of pitchers who actually pitch for them -not many .
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RE: 2021-2022 baseball
When you boot a good pitching coach over stupidity this is what you get.
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