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There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
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(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
Maybe, maybe not.

Once there is a legal definition of “assault weapons” then we can resume that conversation.
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(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.

Thanks for your opinion. There's no need for our government to have assault weapons. Now that's also an opinion. See, it didn't change a damn thing, because your opinion or my opinion doesn't stop our God given rights to self defense or our Constitutional rights to keep and bear arms. It also doesn't stop our government from ordering more "assault" weapons for it's own ends either.
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Very few citizens own real military grade weapons. The hoops one has to jump through to get them are tremendous.

An AR-15 is not military grade, It is NOT what is issued to the military, it is just another semi auto rifle.
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(09-13-2021 12:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
Maybe, maybe not.

Once there is a legal definition of “assault weapons” then we can resume that conversation.

Didn't we already have an assault weapons ban? If we did then there should already be a legal definition.
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(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.

Then why did the kid sniffer leave a bunch of them to America hating terrorists in Afghanistan?
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(09-13-2021 12:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
Maybe, maybe not.

Once there is a legal definition of “assault weapons” then we can resume that conversation.


Every weapon is an assault weapon.... doesn't matter if if can shoot 100 rounds a minute or just 1. You can "assault" anyone with any gun. Just like you can assault someone with your fists, or a spoon or a f-kin' pencil, and to people like Danforth you can be assaulted with mean words as well ...

The only way you will make these people happy is if you just ban everything FFS........
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Since Adolf Hitler came up with the term "assault weapon" (Strumgewehr) does that make anyone who uses that term a Nazi?
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(09-14-2021 10:30 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.

Then why did the kid sniffer leave a bunch of them to America hating terrorists in Afghanistan?

Those weapons were given to the Afghan military going back 20 years. When the Afghan military was defeated, they were stolen by the Taliban. We didn't give them anything.
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(09-14-2021 10:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
Maybe, maybe not.

Once there is a legal definition of “assault weapons” then we can resume that conversation.


Every weapon is an assault weapon.... doesn't matter if if can shoot 100 rounds a minute or just 1. You can "assault" anyone with any gun. Just like you can assault someone with your fists, or a spoon or a f-kin' pencil, and to people like Danforth you can be assaulted with mean words as well ...

The only way you will make these people happy is if you just ban everything FFS........


I see what you are saying. I understand that technically, anything can be considered an assault weapon. For that reason, perhaps that is an inappropriate phrase to use to describe the kinds of weapons that are typically used by the military.

That said there WAS in fact a legal definition of "assault weapons" that allowed certain types of weapons to be banned. Clearly the ban was somewhat effective because of how adamant some are that we don't go back to that law.
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Yes we did. Those weapons were left for them on purpose. There is simply no other reasonable explanation.
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(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
There is no need to inform others of your uneducated opinions.

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That’s the problem. There was NEVER a “legal definition” of “assault weapon”. Find it and post it. I’ll wait.
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(09-14-2021 12:47 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 10:39 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 12:15 PM)Danforth Wrote:  There is no need for civilians to have assault weapons.
Maybe, maybe not.

Once there is a legal definition of “assault weapons” then we can resume that conversation.


Every weapon is an assault weapon.... doesn't matter if if can shoot 100 rounds a minute or just 1. You can "assault" anyone with any gun. Just like you can assault someone with your fists, or a spoon or a f-kin' pencil, and to people like Danforth you can be assaulted with mean words as well ...

The only way you will make these people happy is if you just ban everything FFS........


I see what you are saying. I understand that technically, anything can be considered an assault weapon. For that reason, perhaps that is an inappropriate phrase to use to describe the kinds of weapons that are typically used by the military. [/b]

That said there WAS in fact a legal definition of "assault weapons" that allowed certain types of weapons to be banned. Clearly the ban was somewhat effective because of how adamant some are that we don't go back to that law.

The weapons they want to ban are not the kind that fit your bolded description above. If you understood this, you would be worth engaging in meaningful conversation.


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(09-14-2021 12:47 PM)Danforth Wrote:  I see what you are saying. I understand that technically, anything can be considered an assault weapon. For that reason, perhaps that is an inappropriate phrase to use to describe the kinds of weapons that are typically used by the military.

That said there WAS in fact a legal definition of "assault weapons" that allowed certain types of weapons to be banned. Clearly the ban was somewhat effective because of how adamant some are that we don't go back to that law.

Those weapons weren't banned. New production and importation was banned. Not a single firearm was taken off the street by the so-called "assault weapons ban."

Please define weapons that are "typically" used by the military. If you want to ban an AR because you think it resembles a M4, I can go buy a Ruger Mini-14, which was never a military rifle. It shoots the same cartridge and has an external magazine. It does the exact same thing.
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His knowledge of all things firearm related wouldn’t fill a thimble.
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(09-14-2021 12:53 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 12:47 PM)Danforth Wrote:  I see what you are saying. I understand that technically, anything can be considered an assault weapon. For that reason, perhaps that is an inappropriate phrase to use to describe the kinds of weapons that are typically used by the military.

That said there WAS in fact a legal definition of "assault weapons" that allowed certain types of weapons to be banned. Clearly the ban was somewhat effective because of how adamant some are that we don't go back to that law.

Those weapons weren't banned. New production and importation was banned. Not a single firearm was taken off the street by the so-called "assault weapons ban."

Please define weapons that are "typically" used by the military. If you want to ban an AR because you think it resembles a M4, I can go buy a Ruger Mini-14, which was never a military rifle. It shoots the same cartridge and has an external magazine. It does the exact same thing.

I never said that weapons were taken off the street. Obviously I was talking about weapons that were no longer available to the public.

It seems from what you are saying that you don't have a problem with the law itself but rather the words used to describe the law such as "assault weapon" and "ban".

As you have so clearly demonstrated, you could easily buy similar weapons that do exactly the same thing. If that's the case then why complain?
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Nothing you just said made the slightest sense. Word salad.
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It's a simple question.

If you can buy a similar weapon than the AR-15 that does exactly the same thing, then why complain?
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What in the world does that even mean?
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