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RE: Oregon School Board May Require Classrooms To Fly BLM, Pride Flags (Shot Down)
(06-09-2021 09:37 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 03:18 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:34 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:34 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:18 AM)Danforth Wrote:  You mean the Confederate flag? Why?


What does it mean to you?

To most southerners, the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern identity or heritage (not a symbol of hate). We are Southern culturally first and foremost.

I can respect that but the flag is the official flag of the Confederate States of America which fought against the United States in order to preserve the institution of slavery.

You understand that right?

First, there were several official flags of the Confederacy.

[Image: 255px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_...29.svg.png]
1st National Flag of the Confederate States of America (C.S.A.)
The Stars and Bars
November 28, 1861 – May 1, 1863

[Image: 210px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_...29.svg.png]
2nd National Flag of C.S.A.
The Stainless Banner
May 1, 1863 - March 4, 1865

[Image: 158px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_...29.svg.png]
3rd National Flag of C.S.A.
The Blood-Stained Banner
March 4, 1865 - End of War


However, the flag typically referred to today as the Confederate Flag was never an official flag of the C.S.A.

Per wikipedia:
Quote:Though never having historically represented the Confederate States of America as a country, nor having been officially recognized as one of its national flags, the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and its variants are now flag types commonly referred to as the Confederate Flag.

[Image: 200px-North_Virginia_Third_Bunting.svg.png]
The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia

[Image: 220px-Confederate_Rebel_Flag.svg.png]
the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee


Second, and possibly more important, is the fact that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery. Southern members of the Democratic Party are the ones who broke away from the Union and formed their own nation. And their motive was explicitly to preserve and defend slavery based upon their idea that the white man was superior to the black man.



So, those who despise the Confederate flag and everything for which it stood should make it paramount to stand against the Democratic Party and everything it stood for. In fact, based on today's leftist cancel culture the Democratic Party should be abolished.

Which one do you think I"m talking about?

Well, I know what you said...

Quote:I can respect that but the flag is the official flag of the Confederate States of America which fought against the United States in order to preserve the institution of slavery.

and I think I know what you meant. Thus my post.
06-09-2021 09:47 AM
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RE: Oregon School Board May Require Classrooms To Fly BLM, Pride Flags (Shot Down)
(06-09-2021 09:47 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-09-2021 09:37 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 03:18 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 12:34 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(06-08-2021 09:34 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  To most southerners, the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern identity or heritage (not a symbol of hate). We are Southern culturally first and foremost.

I can respect that but the flag is the official flag of the Confederate States of America which fought against the United States in order to preserve the institution of slavery.

You understand that right?

First, there were several official flags of the Confederacy.

[Image: 255px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_...29.svg.png]
1st National Flag of the Confederate States of America (C.S.A.)
The Stars and Bars
November 28, 1861 – May 1, 1863

[Image: 210px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_...29.svg.png]
2nd National Flag of C.S.A.
The Stainless Banner
May 1, 1863 - March 4, 1865

[Image: 158px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_...29.svg.png]
3rd National Flag of C.S.A.
The Blood-Stained Banner
March 4, 1865 - End of War


However, the flag typically referred to today as the Confederate Flag was never an official flag of the C.S.A.

Per wikipedia:
Quote:Though never having historically represented the Confederate States of America as a country, nor having been officially recognized as one of its national flags, the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and its variants are now flag types commonly referred to as the Confederate Flag.

[Image: 200px-North_Virginia_Third_Bunting.svg.png]
The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia

[Image: 220px-Confederate_Rebel_Flag.svg.png]
the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee


Second, and possibly more important, is the fact that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery. Southern members of the Democratic Party are the ones who broke away from the Union and formed their own nation. And their motive was explicitly to preserve and defend slavery based upon their idea that the white man was superior to the black man.



So, those who despise the Confederate flag and everything for which it stood should make it paramount to stand against the Democratic Party and everything it stood for. In fact, based on today's leftist cancel culture the Democratic Party should be abolished.

Which one do you think I"m talking about?

Well, I know what you said...

Quote:I can respect that but the flag is the official flag of the Confederate States of America which fought against the United States in order to preserve the institution of slavery.

and I think I know what you meant. Thus my post.

If you read the original post about this flag it's described there.
06-09-2021 01:47 PM
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RE: Oregon School Board May Require Classrooms To Fly BLM, Pride Flags (Shot Down)
With all due respect dumbforth, no Southern man gives a damn what you think about anything
06-09-2021 01:55 PM
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RE: Oregon School Board May Require Classrooms To Fly BLM, Pride Flags (Shot Down)
(06-09-2021 01:55 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  With all due respect dumbforth, no Southern man gives a damn what you think about anything

And yet here you are hanging on my every word and incapable of putting me on ignore.
06-10-2021 11:49 AM
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