(05-25-2021 09:56 AM)dansplaining Wrote: (05-25-2021 09:30 AM)emu steve Wrote: (05-25-2021 06:11 AM)EagleSam Wrote: (05-25-2021 05:57 AM)dansplaining Wrote: Both head coaches and assistants have COMPLETE freedom of movement - why isnt there hand wringing about Lance Leipold taking his staff from Buffalo to Kansas in May? It all reeks of inequity and i think thats lame as heck.
I obviously agree with your whole post, but this is really my favorite point whenever I argue this with others. As long as coaches can leave in the middle of the night at literally anytime, then there should be no reason the players can’t do the same. It needs to be all-in both ways.
People also assume that if there were no restrictions, then everyone would transfer. I’d disagree with that. If you have a strong program with a good coach, then you’ll likely be able to keep most of your team together for a while. And college sports are already transient as it is. Players should be allowed to make the most out of their 4 years (or 5...or 6...) in the way that’s best for them.
I'm not sure that we are accurately describing the world as it is.
As mentioned many times, coaches have buyout clauses which simply bind a coach to a school as a school is bound (by the contract) to the coach. It is an attempt to place reasonable, legal restrictions on both parties.
Also remember that the world is not full of free agents. There are non-compete clauses, etc. for highly skilled individuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-compete_clause
Someone who is a mRNA scientist is likely covered by a non-compete clause. Does Pfizer want to lose a top scientist to another company which will use mRNA technology for the next pandemic?
Getting closer to S.E. MI. How about an engineer with great knowledge of EV (electric vehicles)?
Aren't many workers required to transfer their patents they worked on while employed by a company to the company (I know of a such a case with 'M and a supplier).
Right but the main difference between coach's buy outs and worker's non-compete clauses is that coaches have the right to negotiate those buys outs (and have guaranteed contracts if they get fired) and employees in other industries don't work in monopolies (college football is the very definition of a functional monopoly).
Players don't have guaranteed contracts (if they get cut they don't get the rest of their education paid for) or the ability to take a job in the same industry at a different employer (there are no other developmental gridiron football leagues). This creates a restrictive environment unique in the American economy.
I'm not sure about your last paragraph.
In the state of Michigan, a top player can chose UofM and if he can't make it there he can transfer to one of our MAC schools. If he can't make it there, he can transfer to the GLIAC.
A student-athlete at UofM and EMU get functionally the same package. Full ride scholarship, COA, and all the food that 300 lb. linemen can eat at the training table...
I would argue that this should make a labor leader HAPPY. It is like working at a Ford Rouge plant. Everyone doing the same job gets the same pay (used to be that way. After 90 days an employee 'was in the union' and got the same pay as others.). I worked a bit out of h.s. to pay my way through college without $ from parents).
One point from our PREVIOUS discussion.
A FB player is a student-athlete. He does not teach which is the mission of a college.
A Ph.D. student at UofM teaching undergrad X is an employee (teaching is an occupation normally found in colleges and universities). The grad student TA is kind of a junior teacher. Should have a master's degree and working on a PhD.
I believe teaching assistants must pay taxes on their TA stipends. It is considered employment. A FB studying PE is not considered an employee of the school. He doesn't teach football theory and practice to h.s. or jr. h.s. coaches. Matter of fact, I believe a master's degree is required to teach at most universities.
I thought of this recently. A few weeks ago I had a local U. professor over for lunch and he was talking about his TAs and what it involved during the pandemic (this school was almost entirely remote, except for those involving labs, practicums. etc.). He has 16 TAs and they teach an intro, required course at the U.