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(07-17-2021 11:00 PM)masttg Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 06:41 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(07-14-2021 04:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Michigan tax revenues continue to exceed expectations:

https://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/Publ...Recent.pdf

K-12 school funding for 10/1/21-9/30/21 is complete. They have not finalized college and university funding-yet.

The Governor wants to use $250 million in federal stimulus money to upgrade the State park system.

I know you might disagree, but the State park system often provides the Gov to pose next to an attractive new project while posing with a shovel or cutting a ribbon.

That said, folks around Detroit are drowning in water because of neglect in our existing flood water systems. It just ain't sexy when you pose next to a pump upgrade or a more effective underground pipe system.

Expanding the park system around Detroit could create wetlands would lessen future flooding. I kid. Nobody will do anything that forward thinking.

We had wetlands. we built houses on all of them in every direction. State government is about as a good as a solar powered flash light.
07-28-2021 11:53 AM
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RE: "Money Monday"
(07-28-2021 11:53 AM)fanfrompowellspub Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 11:00 PM)masttg Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 06:41 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(07-14-2021 04:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Michigan tax revenues continue to exceed expectations:

https://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/Publ...Recent.pdf

K-12 school funding for 10/1/21-9/30/21 is complete. They have not finalized college and university funding-yet.

The Governor wants to use $250 million in federal stimulus money to upgrade the State park system.

I know you might disagree, but the State park system often provides the Gov to pose next to an attractive new project while posing with a shovel or cutting a ribbon.

That said, folks around Detroit are drowning in water because of neglect in our existing flood water systems. It just ain't sexy when you pose next to a pump upgrade or a more effective underground pipe system.

Expanding the park system around Detroit could create wetlands would lessen future flooding. I kid. Nobody will do anything that forward thinking.

We had wetlands. we built houses on all of them in every direction. State government is about as a good as a solar powered flash light.

Yeah Gretchen Whitmer is definitely responsible for urban planning in the late 40s and 50s
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(09-07-2021 05:13 AM)emu79 Wrote:  State budget:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/l...703438001/

Fall Frosh:

https://today.emich.edu/story/story/11839

One quick point: Remember when speaking YoY (year over year). The 2020 frosh class was depressed because of Covid. So if 2020 was down X% from 2019 and 2021 is up 20% over 2020 how much change from 2019?

BUT EMU wisely note +7% 2021 vs. 2019. That is GOOD!! And they all went to the FB game Friday night. 04-cheers
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I'll get into the articles in more detail. It is good to see the students living on campus (for obvious reason it is an income stream to the university).

The other U I'm very familiar with Howard U (D.C.) for certain reasons, they have had an explosive growth in applications and a BIG on-campus housing shortage. HU has had to obtain U. of Maryland housing.

This is how universities grow: enrollment rises, the number of students living on campus rise, university builds more AND BETTER on campus housing, etc. Everyone wins. Howard has been building new student housing and plans for more. When a prospective student visits he wants to know: Where will I live? Is it nice? Who wants to live in a 75 year old bldg.?

I'm still convinced that as more and more prospective college frosh visit EMU that EMU will do well. As I indicated, I visited EMU last month and drove through campus (as well as spending time at the athletic facilities) and I was impressed.

E.g., saw the new health unit, saw the façade improvements to Phelps, etc. EMU has a very impressive campus. Attractive. Walkable. Amenities. As I may have noted elsewhere, I was a guest student as a summer frosh and went to MSU. MSU is an excellent school but it is huge. Classes could be 1/2 to 3/4 mile walk from one end of campus to another, etc. The class room I had my first stat class didn't have A/C. Class was 1:50 to 2:40 which is my nap time, these days. The instructor's English was challenging... It was a challenge to stay awake.

Just my personal preference but if I were an 18 year old again I would NOT go to a school with 40 - 50K students. Period.
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(09-07-2021 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll get into the articles in more detail. It is good to see the students living on campus (for obvious reason it is an income stream to the university).

The other U I'm very familiar with Howard U (D.C.) for certain reasons, they have had an explosive growth in applications and a BIG on-campus housing shortage. HU has had to obtain U. of Maryland housing.

This is how universities grow: enrollment rises, the number of students living on campus rise, university builds more AND BETTER on campus housing, etc. Everyone wins. Howard has been building new student housing and plans for more. When a prospective student visits he wants to know: Where will I live? Is it nice? Who wants to live in a 75 year old bldg.?

I'm still convinced that as more and more prospective college frosh visit EMU that EMU will do well. As I indicated, I visited EMU last month and drove through campus (as well as spending time at the athletic facilities) and I was impressed.

E.g., saw the new health unit, saw the façade improvements to Phelps, etc. EMU has a very impressive campus. Attractive. Walkable. Amenities. As I may have noted elsewhere, I was a guest student as a summer frosh and went to MSU. MSU is an excellent school but it is huge. Classes could be 1/2 to 3/4 mile walk from one end of campus to another, etc. The class room I had my first stat class didn't have A/C. Class was 1:50 to 2:40 which is my nap time, these days. The instructor's English was challenging... It was a challenge to stay awake.

Just my personal preference but if I were an 18 year old again I would NOT go to a school with 40 - 50K students. Period.

Didn’t know where to post this but it was fabulous and should be celebrated with the unveiling of the EMU College of Engineering and Technology autonomous vehicle that was at the game. EMU is positioned to make great contributions to the next vehicular technology leap. The vehicle is sponsored by Game Above - Well Done!!!!
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(09-07-2021 02:20 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll get into the articles in more detail. It is good to see the students living on campus (for obvious reason it is an income stream to the university).

The other U I'm very familiar with Howard U (D.C.) for certain reasons, they have had an explosive growth in applications and a BIG on-campus housing shortage. HU has had to obtain U. of Maryland housing.

This is how universities grow: enrollment rises, the number of students living on campus rise, university builds more AND BETTER on campus housing, etc. Everyone wins. Howard has been building new student housing and plans for more. When a prospective student visits he wants to know: Where will I live? Is it nice? Who wants to live in a 75 year old bldg.?

I'm still convinced that as more and more prospective college frosh visit EMU that EMU will do well. As I indicated, I visited EMU last month and drove through campus (as well as spending time at the athletic facilities) and I was impressed.

E.g., saw the new health unit, saw the façade improvements to Phelps, etc. EMU has a very impressive campus. Attractive. Walkable. Amenities. As I may have noted elsewhere, I was a guest student as a summer frosh and went to MSU. MSU is an excellent school but it is huge. Classes could be 1/2 to 3/4 mile walk from one end of campus to another, etc. The class room I had my first stat class didn't have A/C. Class was 1:50 to 2:40 which is my nap time, these days. The instructor's English was challenging... It was a challenge to stay awake.

Just my personal preference but if I were an 18 year old again I would NOT go to a school with 40 - 50K students. Period.

Didn’t know where to post this but it was fabulous and should be celebrated with the unveiling of the EMU College of Engineering and Technology autonomous vehicle that was at the game. EMU is positioned to make great contributions to the next vehicular technology leap. The vehicle is sponsored by Game Above - Well Done!!!!

I saw that little driver less vehicle - i have only one question: what is the school going to do to discourage people from ******* in it - because that is 100% going to happen.
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(09-07-2021 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll get into the articles in more detail. It is good to see the students living on campus (for obvious reason it is an income stream to the university).

The other U I'm very familiar with Howard U (D.C.) for certain reasons, they have had an explosive growth in applications and a BIG on-campus housing shortage. HU has had to obtain U. of Maryland housing.

This is how universities grow: enrollment rises, the number of students living on campus rise, university builds more AND BETTER on campus housing, etc. Everyone wins. Howard has been building new student housing and plans for more. When a prospective student visits he wants to know: Where will I live? Is it nice? Who wants to live in a 75 year old bldg.?

I'm still convinced that as more and more prospective college frosh visit EMU that EMU will do well. As I indicated, I visited EMU last month and drove through campus (as well as spending time at the athletic facilities) and I was impressed.

E.g., saw the new health unit, saw the façade improvements to Phelps, etc. EMU has a very impressive campus. Attractive. Walkable. Amenities. As I may have noted elsewhere, I was a guest student as a summer frosh and went to MSU. MSU is an excellent school but it is huge. Classes could be 1/2 to 3/4 mile walk from one end of campus to another, etc. The class room I had my first stat class didn't have A/C. Class was 1:50 to 2:40 which is my nap time, these days. The instructor's English was challenging... It was a challenge to stay awake.

Just my personal preference but if I were an 18 year old again I would NOT go to a school with 40 - 50K students. Period.

Totally agree decent class sizes taught by real profs.EMU was the right size for me.
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(09-07-2021 02:20 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 06:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'll get into the articles in more detail. It is good to see the students living on campus (for obvious reason it is an income stream to the university).

The other U I'm very familiar with Howard U (D.C.) for certain reasons, they have had an explosive growth in applications and a BIG on-campus housing shortage. HU has had to obtain U. of Maryland housing.

This is how universities grow: enrollment rises, the number of students living on campus rise, university builds more AND BETTER on campus housing, etc. Everyone wins. Howard has been building new student housing and plans for more. When a prospective student visits he wants to know: Where will I live? Is it nice? Who wants to live in a 75 year old bldg.?

I'm still convinced that as more and more prospective college frosh visit EMU that EMU will do well. As I indicated, I visited EMU last month and drove through campus (as well as spending time at the athletic facilities) and I was impressed.

E.g., saw the new health unit, saw the façade improvements to Phelps, etc. EMU has a very impressive campus. Attractive. Walkable. Amenities. As I may have noted elsewhere, I was a guest student as a summer frosh and went to MSU. MSU is an excellent school but it is huge. Classes could be 1/2 to 3/4 mile walk from one end of campus to another, etc. The class room I had my first stat class didn't have A/C. Class was 1:50 to 2:40 which is my nap time, these days. The instructor's English was challenging... It was a challenge to stay awake.

Just my personal preference but if I were an 18 year old again I would NOT go to a school with 40 - 50K students. Period.

Didn’t know where to post this but it was fabulous and should be celebrated with the unveiling of the EMU College of Engineering and Technology autonomous vehicle that was at the game. EMU is positioned to make great contributions to the next vehicular technology leap. The vehicle is sponsored by Game Above - Well Done!!!!

100% AGREE! The GM Willow Run plant has been repurposed to develop the autonomous vehicle. Game Above is not a bunch of media craving politicians, Keith Stone and crew are sensible and looking for GOOD investments. This is indeed one!
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I'll try to summarize a Free Press (behind a paywall) article on MI college and university finances for 2019/20 when Covid hit universities hard with dorms, etc.

Bottom line: EMU did not get hard. Their (Freep) seems be a net loss of 4%, not a disaster. The number in their table was -10M.

What I don't know is how CARES monies for salaries figure in or if they are counted as income.

If any are Freep subscribers, here is the link:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/educati...681229001/
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If I was an EMU lobbyist and I am not I would be putting together a list of one time funding requests for a supplemental budget bill ask things like Boone Hall renovations infrastructure needs like the Factory paving parking lots paying a portion of debt down. You may not get get all you requested but a wish list is useful.
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The Governor and the Michigan legislature have reached a budget agreement including university funding for the year beginning October 1. No details at this time. They will need to come to a separate agreement on how to spend $8 billion in federal covid funds. Our total Michigan budget is betweven $60 and $70 billion.
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