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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-14-2021 10:41 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-14-2021 10:24 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  OptimisticOwl, we can hope and well... be optimistic?

I need to change my name.

Maybe Doom and Gloom Owl?

RealisticOwl?

Tired of this crapOwl?

If you figure out how to change your name on this board, let me know. I’ve been trying to do that since I left Harris County in 2018.

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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-14-2021 12:53 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(05-14-2021 10:41 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-14-2021 10:24 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  OptimisticOwl, we can hope and well... be optimistic?

I need to change my name.

Maybe Doom and Gloom Owl?

RealisticOwl?

Tired of this crapOwl?

If you figure out how to change your name on this board, let me know. I’ve been trying to do that since I left Harris County in 2018.

BTW - I like Tired of This Crap Owl as well!

I did change it once - back in 2005. I forget how.
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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-14-2021 12:05 PM)TheTalonsOfTruth Wrote:  Two thoughts as someone close to the program:

1.) Hallmark would be an excellent hire, he has taken two mediocre programs (Incarnate Word and UTSA) and immediately increased their level of competitiveness. Most importantly though, he's an alum that knows Houston and how to recruit to Rice (a very specific skill were not gonna find elsewhere).

2.) Berkman might not want the job anymore because Rice has been jerking him around for too long. But, if he does, I think he would be an interesting hire as he would provide an immediate stimulus to recruiting, which we desperately need. His stature in the baseball world, along with maybe involving Pettite, would be unparalleled in terms of baseball prestige. Frankly, his coaching ability doesn't matter that much right now with how far we've sunk, though I'm sure he's not bad.

Hallmark would be a solid recruiter and I have full confidence he would make Rice into a winning team by his 2nd or 3rd year and maybe a nationally competitive program in more like his 6th. On the other hand, Berkman might be able to turn things around a little faster, being able to attract high level transfers and HS players, but no idea what sustained success he might provide.

3) Matt Hobbs has a great resume and is one of the top assistants in college baseball. He has a long resume filled with success at every stop. He is big into development and would help squeeze the best out of the talent that we have. Not sure if he'd be interested in Rice at this point, but would be a great hire as well, in my opinion. The biggest question would be if he could recruit Texas and to a high level academic institution. https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/coache/matt-hobbs/

Hope the rumors are true. The Bragga experiment has failed, its time to move on. I will add that the current assistants Janish and Barton are not fully responsible for the level of play were seeing. They should be given a chance with the next coach

Very well said. Nothing to disagree with here IMO.
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RE: New Baseball Coach
Pat Hallmark 100%. He was Wayne Graham's recommendation at the time, and at this point, the Administration needs to chin up to acknowledging that they should have listened to Wayne. Take a step towards mending the fence with Wayne, bring in an intense, high standards type of coach who is a Rice alumnus and played a very meaningful role on the Rice teams that got things started. There could not be a better choice.
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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-14-2021 12:05 PM)TheTalonsOfTruth Wrote:  Two thoughts as someone close to the program:

1.) Hallmark would be an excellent hire, he has taken two mediocre programs (Incarnate Word and UTSA) and immediately increased their level of competitiveness. Most importantly though, he's an alum that knows Houston and how to recruit to Rice (a very specific skill were not gonna find elsewhere).

2.) Berkman might not want the job anymore because Rice has been jerking him around for too long. But, if he does, I think he would be an interesting hire as he would provide an immediate stimulus to recruiting, which we desperately need. His stature in the baseball world, along with maybe involving Pettite, would be unparalleled in terms of baseball prestige. Frankly, his coaching ability doesn't matter that much right now with how far we've sunk, though I'm sure he's not bad.

Hallmark would be a solid recruiter and I have full confidence he would make Rice into a winning team by his 2nd or 3rd year and maybe a nationally competitive program in more like his 6th. On the other hand, Berkman might be able to turn things around a little faster, being able to attract high level transfers and HS players, but no idea what sustained success he might provide.

3) Matt Hobbs has a great resume and is one of the top assistants in college baseball. He has a long resume filled with success at every stop. He is big into development and would help squeeze the best out of the talent that we have. Not sure if he'd be interested in Rice at this point, but would be a great hire as well, in my opinion. The biggest question would be if he could recruit Texas and to a high level academic institution. https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/coache/matt-hobbs/

Hope the rumors are true. The Bragga experiment has failed, its time to move on. I will add that the current assistants Janish and Barton are not fully responsible for the level of play were seeing. They should be given a chance with the next coach

Hard to argue or disagree with anything here, with the possible exception of Hobbs. I have no doubt he's qualified, BUT I don't think there is any chance we would hire an assistant head coach at this juncture, even one of the most highly regarded in college baseball. And given his backround, as you acknowledged, there's a big question mark regarding his ability to embrace the academic aspects of Rice-- both the good and the challenge entailed.

I do think Lance is a much bigger risk than Patrick but, as I rationalized to someone at today's game, the program is currently on life support (or close to it), and is in need of a jolt...and the hiring of Lance would be akin to administering the electric shock. He'd likely have an immediate impact on recruiting and bringing buzz back to the program (probably moreso than Patrick), but the question would be whether he has the ability and experience to capitalize on it and revitalize the program to elite status. My strong preference would still be on Hallmark, but I would certainly be comfortable with Berkman at this point.
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RE: New Baseball Coach
I have heard skepticism from people who would know that Hallmark would take the job under our current athletic director. There would need to be a lot of fence mending done for that to be a possibility.
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(05-14-2021 08:17 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  I have heard skepticism from people who would know that Hallmark would take the job under our current athletic director. There would need to be a lot of fence mending done for that to be a possibility.

This is an accurate statement.
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Forget about our AD; as a potential new hire, I would want whatever commitments were made to be signed off on by the board and our president. I do not care that this would be unusual; you are coming into a formerly flagship baseball program that cannot even make their own conference tournament, and will finish as maybe one of the bottom 3 teams in the league.

Commitments will have to be made on the financial side, and that ultimately is a BOT/President call, and I know you all do not like the current AD. Well I think the non-athletic life in academic institutions that ignore to despise athletics, couldn't cut it in private practice despite academic genius, weak-kneed president is the root of all problems here, and until you make him commit in writing to tangible steps, you will have nothing. Putting him as Rice president if you cared about athletics was no different than putting a rodeo clown in charge of Columbia law school if you cared about academics and research. The Rice BOT got what they wished for when they hired him; this is where that selection would lead.

No, I do not care when he pats you on the shoulder and says "I care about baseball. How many goals do we have this game, and how much time is left on the clock."
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Two points

1. Pat knows what a douche JK is and he is not going to work for him, period. Put that out of your minds. He will be offered a better job and probably already has been.

2. JK was not going to hire Lance because the faculty and Leebron did not want him. A certain athletic supporter, who is pushing Lance again btw, managed Lance's last campaign and was thoroughly schooled by people he chose to make enemies of. Once word got out that this person was at it again, all those opponents who derailed it the first time were activated and the powers were reminded of Lance's problems. Leebron hates conflict and he knows that he gets a ton of it with that hire. Of course JK wouldn't hire anyone who he couldn't control anyway and say what you will about Lance, he. like Wayne, will not be bullied to kiss the ring of the idiot AD.

In summary- can joey or remain a has been.
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I'm tired of this crap.
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(05-16-2021 09:24 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I'm tired of this crap.


But, what if I just wanted Columbia to have a better rodeo team? Can we still go with the rodeo clown?
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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-16-2021 07:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(05-16-2021 09:24 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I'm tired of this crap.


But, what if I just wanted Columbia to have a better rodeo team? Can we still go with the rodeo clown?

If he is cheap enough.

I once met a really big guy who, in the course of conversation, mentioned that he had attended Tarleton State on athletic scholarship. Assuming from his size he meant football, I asked what position he played.

"Bulldogging".
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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-17-2021 06:48 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-16-2021 07:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(05-16-2021 09:24 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I'm tired of this crap.


But, what if I just wanted Columbia to have a better rodeo team? Can we still go with the rodeo clown?

If he is cheap enough.

I once met a really big guy who, in the course of conversation, mentioned that he had attended Tarleton State on athletic scholarship. Assuming from his size he meant football, I asked what position he played.

"Bulldogging".

Met a kid on a plane last week who was a bulldogger, and pitcher on their baseball team!
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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-17-2021 10:10 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:48 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-16-2021 07:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  But, what if I just wanted Columbia to have a better rodeo team? Can we still go with the rodeo clown?

If he is cheap enough.

I once met a really big guy who, in the course of conversation, mentioned that he had attended Tarleton State on athletic scholarship. Assuming from his size he meant football, I asked what position he played.

"Bulldogging".

Met a kid on a plane last week who was a bulldogger, and pitcher on their baseball team!

Is his participation current? Or in years past?

(I did not see any overlap in Tarleton's current baseball and rodeo rosters.)
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(05-17-2021 06:56 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 10:10 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:48 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-16-2021 07:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  But, what if I just wanted Columbia to have a better rodeo team? Can we still go with the rodeo clown?

If he is cheap enough.

I once met a really big guy who, in the course of conversation, mentioned that he had attended Tarleton State on athletic scholarship. Assuming from his size he meant football, I asked what position he played.

"Bulldogging".

Met a kid on a plane last week who was a bulldogger, and pitcher on their baseball team!

Is his participation current? Or in years past?

(I did not see any overlap in Tarleton's current baseball and rodeo rosters.)


Most schools discourage multi-sport participation these days, I’ve been told...
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(05-16-2021 03:07 AM)interwebowl Wrote:  Leebron hates conflict and he knows that he gets a ton of it with that hire.

This is why I think Leebron is a terrible leader. No guts, and bows to the voices of opposition at the first opportunity. No natural leadership skills and obviously no charisma.
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RE: New Baseball Coach
(05-17-2021 07:41 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:56 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 10:10 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:48 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-16-2021 07:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  But, what if I just wanted Columbia to have a better rodeo team? Can we still go with the rodeo clown?

If he is cheap enough.

I once met a really big guy who, in the course of conversation, mentioned that he had attended Tarleton State on athletic scholarship. Assuming from his size he meant football, I asked what position he played.

"Bulldogging".

Met a kid on a plane last week who was a bulldogger, and pitcher on their baseball team!

Is his participation current? Or in years past?

(I did not see any overlap in Tarleton's current baseball and rodeo rosters.)


Most schools discourage multi-sport participation these days, I’ve been told...

No idea. Maybe he was incoming?? I didn't press him. We were on a tiny plane and sitting behind each other (one person rows)

and lol at moon
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(05-19-2021 10:21 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 07:41 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:56 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 10:10 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:48 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If he is cheap enough.

I once met a really big guy who, in the course of conversation, mentioned that he had attended Tarleton State on athletic scholarship. Assuming from his size he meant football, I asked what position he played.

"Bulldogging".

Met a kid on a plane last week who was a bulldogger, and pitcher on their baseball team!

Is his participation current? Or in years past?

(I did not see any overlap in Tarleton's current baseball and rodeo rosters.)


Most schools discourage multi-sport participation these days, I’ve been told...

No idea. Maybe he was incoming?? I didn't press him. We were on a tiny plane and sitting behind each other (one person rows)

and lol at moon

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(05-19-2021 10:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(05-19-2021 10:21 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 07:41 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 06:56 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(05-17-2021 10:10 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Met a kid on a plane last week who was a bulldogger, and pitcher on their baseball team!

Is his participation current? Or in years past?

(I did not see any overlap in Tarleton's current baseball and rodeo rosters.)


Most schools discourage multi-sport participation these days, I’ve been told...

No idea. Maybe he was incoming?? I didn't press him. We were on a tiny plane and sitting behind each other (one person rows)

and lol at moon

Howling at Moon?

Now I'm lolling at 'tired of this crap owl' lol
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(05-17-2021 07:41 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Most schools discourage multi-sport participation these days, I’ve been told...

And I think that creates a huge opportunity. Be a niche player by embracing the multi-sport athlete. Yep, coach, that means you don't have him or her for 100% of the practice time you want. But that also means you have a chance to recruit 1, 2, or 3 players a year that the likes of TexasU, aTm, and LSU want, but want him/her to play only one sport. Those are players you aren't getting otherwise, and last I checked, talent matters.

It's a similar argument to the kid who is an outstanding QB in HS, but doesn't fit the TexasU, aTm, or LSU system profile, so they say, "Come here and we'll make you a safety." We can say, "Come here and you will get a shot at QB," because we are willing to run an offense where he can succeed. Worst case, he can't make it at QB, so we end up with a safety that TexasU, aTm, and LSU wanted.
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