(05-12-2021 05:52 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  Also of note: The White Knights who are rushing to defend her honor are all DEMOCRATS. Because they could count on her support when it counted (for Democrats and the Swamp).

That should tell you all you need to know.

The same ones who hated her Dad with a passion not seen since Richard Nixon.

(05-12-2021 11:35 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I miss when the GOP platform was about limiting government and taxation instead of “owning the Libs” and massaging Trump’s ego. Truly a lost party at this point.

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the Demoncrapped Play Book. That's all that they care(d) about since 2016 i.e. defeating the Trump agenda AT ALL COSTS including two utterly fake impeachment proceedings. Get your Schiff maker in gear Mr. I Love Bite'em.

But, what can we expect from the gods of hypocrisy.

(05-12-2021 11:35 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I miss when the GOP platform was about limiting government and taxation instead of “owning the Libs” and massaging Trump’s ego. Truly a lost party at this point.

This comment literally make zero sense. Trumps policies were for more limited government and lower taxes than the entire republican party the last several years. He over spent, but his overspend is microscopic compared to what we are seeing now.

Republican voters are not remotely lost, the issue is the disconnect between the party establishment that is an even bigger spending, deep state swamp scum that has zero interest in what their voters actually want.

That is the reality of the situation, though I doubt your progressive brain can input that much basic truth.

(05-12-2021 12:25 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 12:11 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 12:02 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I don’t give a chit about personality. Give me solid America first policy and I’m fine with a bit of chest thumping. If there is another out there that will continue that without fighting back the MSM please point him-her out. Fact is I believe it can’t be done without some one getting down in the dirt with the filthy slime.

Those who have shown both leadership qualities and have demonstrated that they can handle media/big tech heat:

Cotton
Crenshaw
Cruz
DeSantis
Grenell
Pence
Pompeo
Scott

And, just as important, all of them do so with much more grace and far less thin-skinned stupidity than the Donald.

Of that list, I would gladly take any of them. But Rick Grenell would be my first choice.

I think Pence is a dope. He was a wall flower as VP (not that Trump gave him much of a choice). He is far too conservative for my liking anyways. I respect his role in the party, but he should by no means be the representative of it.

A Desantis/Pompeo ticket would be really interesting.

I would be tripping over myself (and not from climbing jet ramps like Bite'em) to go vote for that ticket. DeSantis is a proven leader as a Governor and Pompeo had the guts and brains as Sec. of State. Both of them are super competent and I hope it happens. Heck, yes I would vote for them over Trump any day, and that's saying a lot because I think of Trump tenure as a positive one even though I hated his NY ways.

(05-12-2021 12:24 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:11 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  My fellow conservatives on this board are not going to like this but here it goes.........


I admire Ms. Cheney for sticking to her guns. She is the Manchin of the right.

I may not agree with her decision, but she made a decision and was not swayed by political pressure to change it. I honestly do not know if she carried out the wishes of her constituents, that is a different story.

Politics needs more "free thinking" and less "team over country" in DC. This mentality has been there for a really longs time - our whole lives. The Reagan years were pretty split for sure, but the Clinton Administration took it to a new level of the sides digging in their heels. It would have probably gotten even worse under Bush II if it were not for 911. It is really hard not to get behind your country first when something like that happens.

But Obama really lit the fuse for hyper partisan politics. What we are seeing is the simple theory of opposing force. "Every action is met with an equal and opposite reaction." Obama polarized politics in a different way than his predecessors, and the response from the people was Trump. He took it in a 180 for sure. Now you have his counter with Biden who is whipping it back towards Obama levels and then some etc...

Lost in all of this is the creation of win at all costs and being in charge for the sake of being in charge, NOT winning for the sake of the people.


These f-ing people are playing a real life game of Sim-City with our country right now. Common sense has all but disappeared from the DC Area code.

To me, Cheney was trying to apply some common sense to an otherwise out of control situation. People are so bludgeoned and beaten down by this stuff that they cannot wrap their head around that any more. Compromise is looked upon and treated like a loss.

Things have swung so wide today that Trump looks like he is Right of Reagan, when in reality, if Trump was in the office 25 years ago, he would have been quite moderate overall - and almost to a point of counter balancing Reagan. But in this world of equal and opposite reaction, the Dems desire to distance themselves as far away as possible from Trump is just adding fuel to a fire.

If you are driving down an icy road and start to skid to the right, you must make a violent turn to the left to try to recover, then another violent turn back to the right to recover from the recovery; and those violent overcorrections may continue for a few rounds until you get back under control. That is EXACTLY what is happening now in our political system.

Just a thought, my opinion only, Manchin bucks his party sometimes to reflect the views of his State, Cheney bucked the party when it did NOT represent the views of her state.

i agree congress should have some thought independent of their parties, and not always vote lock step. However, IF you buck the party you have to be ready for consequences.. which have not happened to Liz. IF you buck your voters, you have to be ready for the consequences as well, and i expect Liz is done, while Manchin is not.

I just moved to West Virginia (yes I am serious) and they are doing some serious rebuilding of the roads in my area. I have no doubt Manchin is behind a lot of it since he is getting whatever he wants these days from the democrats.

He is the most powerful senator in America right now.

West Virginia has been on the decline for many years because of the destruction of the coal industry, they deserve some serious pork.

Its a dwindling dying state but holy cow its beautiful up here. And the people are very friendly.

As a born and raised southerner I'm a bit out of place, but I have enjoyed it a lot so far. And I likely fit in better here than most other places in the north. I have lived in the Memphis metro area my entire life.

Eric, avoid the banjo playing ones. LOL

(05-12-2021 10:49 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Eric, avoid the banjo playing ones. LOL

The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good news for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

(05-12-2021 10:56 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good new for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

So you're saying they're more desperate there? LOL

(05-12-2021 10:58 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:56 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good new for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

So you're saying they're more desperate there? LOL

Well no one is throwing themselves at me lol, I just noticed more attractive women actually looking at me than I got back home the last few years.

There is no other way to say it, there are some unattractive people here.

Not everyone is, but on average there are far more than back home.

Really good people though, and a lot of good Christians who aren't afraid to profess their faith.

Fake election. They need to vote again. Total sham and everybody knows it. Stop the steal.

(05-12-2021 11:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Fake election. They need to vote again. Total sham and everybody knows it. Stop the steal.

That's fine as long as they have ID and vote in person.



Keep going.

(05-12-2021 11:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Fake election. They need to vote again. Total sham and everybody knows it. Stop the steal.

That's fine as long as they have ID and vote in person.



Keep going.

Yeah. Pretty sure they were all there, alive, living within the US and all citizens. Don’t think anybody mailed it in.....
Moron Swillsucker.

(05-12-2021 11:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:58 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:56 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good new for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

So you're saying they're more desperate there? LOL

Well no one is throwing themselves at me lol, I just noticed more attractive women actually looking at me than I got back home the last few years.

There is no other way to say it, there are some unattractive people here.

Not everyone is, but on average there are far more than back home.

Really good people though, and a lot of good Christians who aren't afraid to profess their faith.

What part of WV did you land in? Anywhere around Huntington and I’ll take you to a really good church some Sunday.

(05-12-2021 11:57 PM)banker Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:58 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:56 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good new for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

So you're saying they're more desperate there? LOL

Well no one is throwing themselves at me lol, I just noticed more attractive women actually looking at me than I got back home the last few years.

There is no other way to say it, there are some unattractive people here.

Not everyone is, but on average there are far more than back home.

Really good people though, and a lot of good Christians who aren't afraid to profess their faith.

What part of WV did you land in? Anywhere around Huntington and I’ll take you to a really good church some Sunday.

Are the women pretty there?....

(05-12-2021 11:57 PM)banker Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:58 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:56 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good new for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

So you're saying they're more desperate there? LOL

Well no one is throwing themselves at me lol, I just noticed more attractive women actually looking at me than I got back home the last few years.

There is no other way to say it, there are some unattractive people here.

Not everyone is, but on average there are far more than back home.

Really good people though, and a lot of good Christians who aren't afraid to profess their faith.

What part of WV did you land in? Anywhere around Huntington and I’ll take you to a really good church some Sunday.

I'm in Logan actually, probably a little over an hour and a half away.

I drove up to Charleston last week, I thought the Ridgeway area and downtown were really beautiful areas, though I hear the east side of town is kinda dangerous and rough. I drove through Charleston once 20 years ago but it was dead of winter, wet and snowy so it was kinda dreary. Very different experience this time. I know a lot of that ridgeway area is new and man its beautiful in the springtime. The parts I drove through were really nice.

Ridgeway reminded me a lot of Collierville back home, just with the wonderful green mountains everywhere. Everything looked new, clean and sharp like Collierville. Downtown Charleston was really nice as well.

Its totally different in Logan, everything looks like it was built 80-100 years ago, with nothing new anywhere except the majestic Chief Logan Park which is totally amazing. There are NO parks like that back in the Memphis area. Not even Shelby Farms (which is awesome) can compare to that place.

(05-13-2021 12:12 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:57 PM)banker Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:58 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:56 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The biggest difference is the women in the south are just drop dead gorgeous and take such good care of themself. Most of the women here are on the larger side lol.

The good new for me is I am far more attractive here and more cultured. My desirability to the opposite sex just shot up several levels. lol

And I am being quite serious, I can already tell a difference in women looking at me.

So you're saying they're more desperate there? LOL

Well no one is throwing themselves at me lol, I just noticed more attractive women actually looking at me than I got back home the last few years.

There is no other way to say it, there are some unattractive people here.

Not everyone is, but on average there are far more than back home.

Really good people though, and a lot of good Christians who aren't afraid to profess their faith.

What part of WV did you land in? Anywhere around Huntington and I’ll take you to a really good church some Sunday.

Are the women pretty there?....

It may be a little worse in my area because its such an aging population. I've had other friends tell me its like this in a lot of places in the north though.

Apparently living in the south really spoils you with how attractive the women are on average. People who have moved around more than me often say so.

(05-12-2021 08:30 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1392469508837842946

CYA WOULDN’T WANNA BE YA

She voted with Trump 97% of the time. She is one of the most conservative members of Congress.

She spoke on the House floor Tuesday evening. The following are the full remarks of what she said. As a conservative, if you do not believe in what she describes below, you are effectively at war with our Constitution. And incredibly this why the GOP ousted her. The party is trying to hide the fact they are at war with democracy.


"I know the topic is cancel culture. I have some thoughts about that but tonight I rise to discuss freedom and our constitutional duty to protect it. Mr. Speaker, I have been privileged to see firsthand how powerful and fragile freedom is. Twenty-eight years ago, I stood outside a polling place, a schoolhouse in western Kenya. Soldiers had chased away people who were lined up to vote. A few hours later they came streaming back in risking further attack, undaunted in their determination to exercise their right to vote.

"In 1992, I sat across a table from a young mayor in Russia and I listened to him talk of his dream from liberating his nation from communism. Years later, for his dedication to the cause of freedom, Boris Nemtsov was assassinated by Vladmir Putin's thugs.

"In Warsaw – in 1990 – I listened to a young Polish woman tell me that her greatest fear was that people would forget. They would forget what it was like to live under Soviet domination. That they would forget the price of freedom.

"Three men, an immigrant who escaped Castro's totalitarian regime; a young man who grew up behind the Iron Curtain and became his country's minister of defense; and a dissident who spent years in the Soviet gulag have all told me it was the miracle of America captured in the words of President Ronald Reagan that inspired them.

"And I have seen the power of faith and freedom. I listened to Pope John Paul II speak to thousands in Nairobi in 1985. And 19 years, I watched that same pope take my father's hands, look in his eyes and say God bless America.

"God has blessed America, Mr. Speaker, but our freedom only survives if we protect it. If we honor our oath taken before God in this chamber to support and defend the Constitution if we recognize threats to freedom when they arise.

"Today we face a threat America has never seen before. A former president, who provoked a violent attack on this capital in an effort to steal the election, has resumed his aggressive effort to convince Americans that the election was stolen from him. He risks inciting further violence. Millions of Americans have been misled by the former president, they have heard only his words, but not the truth. As he continues to undermine our democratic process, sowing seeds of doubt about whether democracy really works at all.

"I am a conservative Republican, and the most conservative of conservative principles is reverence for the rule of law.

"The Electoral College has voted. More than 60 state and federal courts, including multiple judges the former president appointed, have rejected his claims. The Trump Department of Justice investigated the former president's claims of widespread fraud and found no evidence to support them. The election is over. That is the rule of law. That is our constitutional process. Those who refuse to accept the rulings of our courts are at war with the Constitution. Our duty is clear. Every one of us who has sworn the oath must act to prevent the unraveling of our democracy.

"This is not about policy. This is not about partisanship. This is about our duty as Americans. Remaining silent and ignoring the lie emboldens the liar. I will not participate in that. I will not sit back and watch in silence, while others lead our party down a path that abandons the rule of law and joins the former president's crusade to undermine our democracy.

"As the party of Reagan, Republicans have championed democracy, won the Cold War, and defeated the Soviet communists. Today, America is on the cusp of another Cold War, this time with Communist China. Attacks against our democratic process and the rule of law empower our adversaries and feed Communist propaganda that American democracy is a failure. We must speak the truth, our election was not stolen, and America has not failed.

"I received a message last week from a Gold Star father who said said standing up for the truth honors all who gave all. We must all strive to be worthy of the sacrifice of those who have died for our freedom. They are the patriots Katharine Lee Bates described in the words of 'America the Beautiful' when she wrote 'Oh beautiful for heroes proved in liberating strife, who more than self, their country loved, and mercy, more than life'.

"Ultimately, Mr. Speaker. This is at the heart of what our oath requires, that we love our country more. That we love her so much that we will stand above politics to defend her. That we will do everything in our power to protect our Constitution and our freedom that has been paid for by the blood of so many. We must love America so much that we will never yield in her defense. That is our duty."

(05-12-2021 09:13 AM)Danforth Wrote:  Chaney is one of the most conservatives republicans in office. She is no friend of the Democrats.

Her removal however tells us a lot about the Republican Party.

Regardless of how conservative she is, she was removed because she refused to agree with the lie that the election was rigged.

So in summary:

Republicans are no longer conservative. They are Trump's army.

I welcome the fight.

Well, you managed to cover all the talking points without once hitting on the real reason.

(05-12-2021 10:11 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  My fellow conservatives on this board are not going to like this but here it goes.........


I admire Ms. Cheney for sticking to her guns. She is the Manchin of the right.

I may not agree with her decision, but she made a decision and was not swayed by political pressure to change it. I honestly do not know if she carried out the wishes of her constituents, that is a different story.

Politics needs more "free thinking" and less "team over country" in DC. This mentality has been there for a really longs time - our whole lives. The Reagan years were pretty split for sure, but the Clinton Administration took it to a new level of the sides digging in their heels. It would have probably gotten even worse under Bush II if it were not for 911. It is really hard not to get behind your country first when something like that happens.

But Obama really lit the fuse for hyper partisan politics. What we are seeing is the simple theory of opposing force. "Every action is met with an equal and opposite reaction." Obama polarized politics in a different way than his predecessors, and the response from the people was Trump. He took it in a 180 for sure. Now you have his counter with Biden who is whipping it back towards Obama levels and then some etc...

Lost in all of this is the creation of win at all costs and being in charge for the sake of being in charge, NOT winning for the sake of the people.


These f-ing people are playing a real life game of Sim-City with our country right now. Common sense has all but disappeared from the DC Area code.

To me, Cheney was trying to apply some common sense to an otherwise out of control situation. People are so bludgeoned and beaten down by this stuff that they cannot wrap their head around that any more. Compromise is looked upon and treated like a loss.

Things have swung so wide today that Trump looks like he is Right of Reagan, when in reality, if Trump was in the office 25 years ago, he would have been quite moderate overall - and almost to a point of counter balancing Reagan. But in this world of equal and opposite reaction, the Dems desire to distance themselves as far away as possible from Trump is just adding fuel to a fire.

If you are driving down an icy road and start to skid to the right, you must make a violent turn to the left to try to recover, then another violent turn back to the right to recover from the recovery; and those violent overcorrections may continue for a few rounds until you get back under control. That is EXACTLY what is happening now in our political system.

That's because there is no compromise with the democrat party. They consider compromise as when you get nothing and they get everything.