(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 09:59 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 01:08 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:40 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 09:43 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  I think it’s just a case of another 5th or 6th string player leaving. I say good for them - they had no place here, why not try to see if you have one somewhere else.

It’s telling a lot of the transfers who leave don’t find anywhere else to play either.

COVID played a major part...so there where really no schollys available. You just wait and see i believe that a couple of them will go P5 that left.


I CAN BET THAT MORE KIDS THAT LEFT GO P5 Than Hammock have wins!!

DM me if you want to put money on THAT

I understand you are butt hurt because your son or something was a 4th string corner - but how many guys do you think are going P5? I mean the number is currently at zero. You have a zero percent chance to win your bet

Nope wrong guy fam! I know all of the area guys bro.

You trying too hard

By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

Ohh neat! You have a cousin who was really good at NIU a long time ago. Tell me more!

Question:

Wolfe’s cousin > Shatone’s girlfriend?

Discuss

(05-18-2021 11:04 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  Question:

Wolfe’s cousin > Shatone’s girlfriend?

Discuss

Devon Butler's sidepiece trumps both

(05-18-2021 11:02 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 09:59 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 01:08 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:40 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  COVID played a major part...so there where really no schollys available. You just wait and see i believe that a couple of them will go P5 that left.


I CAN BET THAT MORE KIDS THAT LEFT GO P5 Than Hammock have wins!!

DM me if you want to put money on THAT

I understand you are butt hurt because your son or something was a 4th string corner - but how many guys do you think are going P5? I mean the number is currently at zero. You have a zero percent chance to win your bet

Nope wrong guy fam! I know all of the area guys bro.

You trying too hard

By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

Ohh neat! You have a cousin who was really good at NIU a long time ago. Tell me more!

WOW!!!

Does he find you as irritating as some of us do, bro?

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

(05-18-2021 11:09 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 11:04 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  Question:

Wolfe’s cousin > Shatone’s girlfriend?

Discuss

Devon Butler's sidepiece trumps both

But, what about Greg Barksdale? Where does he fit in this? Anyone find any skeletons in Greg's closet......or any of his many girlfriends?

(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 09:59 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 01:08 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:40 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 09:43 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  I think it’s just a case of another 5th or 6th string player leaving. I say good for them - they had no place here, why not try to see if you have one somewhere else.

It’s telling a lot of the transfers who leave don’t find anywhere else to play either.

COVID played a major part...so there where really no schollys available. You just wait and see i believe that a couple of them will go P5 that left.


I CAN BET THAT MORE KIDS THAT LEFT GO P5 Than Hammock have wins!!

DM me if you want to put money on THAT

I understand you are butt hurt because your son or something was a 4th string corner - but how many guys do you think are going P5? I mean the number is currently at zero. You have a zero percent chance to win your bet

Nope wrong guy fam! I know all of the area guys bro.

You trying too hard

By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

If you're really Garrett's cousin. Prove it!

What's he up to?

Asking for a friend.

(05-19-2021 08:38 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 09:59 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 01:08 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 11:40 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  COVID played a major part...so there where really no schollys available. You just wait and see i believe that a couple of them will go P5 that left.


I CAN BET THAT MORE KIDS THAT LEFT GO P5 Than Hammock have wins!!

DM me if you want to put money on THAT

I understand you are butt hurt because your son or something was a 4th string corner - but how many guys do you think are going P5? I mean the number is currently at zero. You have a zero percent chance to win your bet

Nope wrong guy fam! I know all of the area guys bro.

You trying too hard

By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

If you're really Garrett's cousin. Prove it!

What's he up to?

Asking for a friend.

That may be a lost cause. I once said hi to Shatone's girlfriend while we were stopped at a stoplight, but she refuses to tell me anything. I am only able to get information from Shatone's girlfriend's neighbor's second cousin on her father's side. But, even with that solid connection, I can only get information on every other Tuesday.

(05-19-2021 09:54 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 08:38 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 09:59 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 01:08 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  I understand you are butt hurt because your son or something was a 4th string corner - but how many guys do you think are going P5? I mean the number is currently at zero. You have a zero percent chance to win your bet

Nope wrong guy fam! I know all of the area guys bro.

You trying too hard

By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

If you're really Garrett's cousin. Prove it!

What's he up to?

Asking for a friend.

That may be a lost cause. I once said hi to Shatone's girlfriend while we were stopped at a stoplight, but she refuses to tell me anything. I am only able to get information from Shatone's girlfriend's neighbor's second cousin on her father's side. But, even with that solid connection, I can only get information on every other Tuesday.

The Pikes said they had Shatone's shoes as a trophy. And now neither are on campus lol.

(05-19-2021 09:59 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 09:54 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 08:38 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 09:59 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  Nope wrong guy fam! I know all of the area guys bro.

You trying too hard

By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

If you're really Garrett's cousin. Prove it!

What's he up to?

Asking for a friend.

That may be a lost cause. I once said hi to Shatone's girlfriend while we were stopped at a stoplight, but she refuses to tell me anything. I am only able to get information from Shatone's girlfriend's neighbor's second cousin on her father's side. But, even with that solid connection, I can only get information on every other Tuesday.

The Pikes said they had Shatone's shoes as a trophy. And now neither are on campus lol.

Pikes got booted? I never eta knew this. No wonder they don’t ask for money anymore.

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

(05-19-2021 01:41 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 09:59 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 09:54 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 08:38 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-18-2021 10:02 AM)Chicago_sportsfan Wrote:  By the way I’m cousins with Garrett Wolfe

If you're really Garrett's cousin. Prove it!

What's he up to?

Asking for a friend.

That may be a lost cause. I once said hi to Shatone's girlfriend while we were stopped at a stoplight, but she refuses to tell me anything. I am only able to get information from Shatone's girlfriend's neighbor's second cousin on her father's side. But, even with that solid connection, I can only get information on every other Tuesday.

The Pikes said they had Shatone's shoes as a trophy. And now neither are on campus lol.

Pikes got booted? I never eta knew this. No wonder they don’t ask for money anymore.

There was a pledge that died from excessive drinking and a multi million dollar settlement (like $14 million). i think that was their death

(05-19-2021 04:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

Every school you just named has more wins that we did in our last seasons of play.

(05-19-2021 04:51 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

Every school you just named has more wins that we did in our last seasons of play.

That's not hard when when we went 0-6. Doesn't make any of those better programs. Temple went 1-6 last year, does that mean Texas St and Chattanooga are better overall programs? I don't think they are. Temple has been relatively successful the last 5-7 years, same as NIU being one of the top G5s the last two decades.

(05-19-2021 05:37 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:51 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  +1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

Every school you just named has more wins that we did in our last seasons of play.

That's not hard when when we went 0-6. Doesn't make any of those better programs. Temple went 1-6 last year, does that mean Texas St and Chattanooga are better overall programs? I don't think they are. Temple has been relatively successful the last 5-7 years, same as NIU being one of the top G5s the last two decades.

I'm just busting your chops, lol. I pray none of those programs are ever regarded as better than us.

(05-19-2021 06:14 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 05:37 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:51 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

Every school you just named has more wins that we did in our last seasons of play.

That's not hard when when we went 0-6. Doesn't make any of those better programs. Temple went 1-6 last year, does that mean Texas St and Chattanooga are better overall programs? I don't think they are. Temple has been relatively successful the last 5-7 years, same as NIU being one of the top G5s the last two decades.

I'm just busting your chops, lol. I pray none of those programs are ever regarded as better than us.

I don't think they will be. Maybe Texas State years from now since Texas has so much HS talent and is experiencing huge population and economic growth. All these issues with the state of Illinois (decreased university funding, population decrease, corruption, etc.) are not doing NIU any favors.

(05-19-2021 04:48 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 01:41 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 09:59 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 09:54 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 08:38 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  If you're really Garrett's cousin. Prove it!

What's he up to?

Asking for a friend.

That may be a lost cause. I once said hi to Shatone's girlfriend while we were stopped at a stoplight, but she refuses to tell me anything. I am only able to get information from Shatone's girlfriend's neighbor's second cousin on her father's side. But, even with that solid connection, I can only get information on every other Tuesday.

The Pikes said they had Shatone's shoes as a trophy. And now neither are on campus lol.

Pikes got booted? I never eta knew this. No wonder they don’t ask for money anymore.

There was a pledge that died from excessive drinking and a multi million dollar settlement (like $14 million). i think that was their death

That’s tragic and unfortunate. And while I know it’s hard to condone that behavior, at the same time it was really really fun too.

(05-19-2021 04:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

Most of the guys leaving have to go FCS because they didn’t get any playing time at NIU. But many of them are just are guys who are rightfully buried on the depth chart. It’s the decent or guys with potential I wonder about not getting a fair chance because they weren’t Hammock recruits: Cole, Love, Goston, Henderson and Mattox. I’m sure every coach tends to want to develope their guys. So these players might feel that and it’s why they’re leaving.

(05-20-2021 10:56 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 06:44 AM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 12:47 AM)hardway9 Wrote:  

(05-13-2021 08:55 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  It seems pretty clear that if you’re a recruit from the previous regime and not a proven commodity you are a lower priority. Hammock wants to develope his recruits. Understandable but I was really curious to see Cole play.

+1 for this. Cole put on a performance for them in 2019. 2020 dealt with the season ending injury, I was excited to see him play this year. It’s like the players they once relied on they all of a sudden seem no longer interested in? Recruits from previous regime, I almost wonder if they will keep all of them playing. Hammock likes younger guys, will Pugh and Deveaux really still play?

IMO, Hammock shuffles players in and out per the pro experience he has. The transfer portal functions like a vehicle of free agency. As the season approaches he continues to assess and then (hopefully) constructs/retains the core plus backups. ... Or I could be wrong. It happens.

Honestly, with the new transfer rules and portal we will see a lot of players come and go. College football has become college basketball with the constant roster turnovers. Who knows if these are players the coaches felt wouldn't be major contributors or how many of these players felt they should be starters so now they want to transfer.

It probably says a lot that most of our transfers aren't going to other FBS programs or getting better offers. For example, Robinson to Texas State, J.D. Harris going to Chattanooga, Maximillian Thrower to Morgan St, Caleb Wright to Northern Michigan, etc.

Most of the guys leaving have to go FCS because they didn’t get any playing time at NIU. But many of them are just are guys who are rightfully buried on the depth chart. It’s the decent or guys with potential I wonder about not getting a fair chance because they weren’t Hammock recruits: Cole, Love, Goston, Henderson and Mattox. I’m sure every coach tends to want to develope their guys. So these players might feel that and it’s why they’re leaving.

Honestly Cole is the only guy I can’t figure why hammock didn’t use him.

The rest all had reasons. Love was “fast” but not really explosive - too small to be anything but a gadget WR. Henderson was too small to be a hammock safety. Mattox never did anything so I can’t so for sure what the issue is, might just be a talent thing. Goston was a weird one - I know in an interview I know hammock said he was in the mix to start. Then he vanished.