(05-12-2021 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Wow…
someone has swallowed the lie hook, line, sinker… as if mail in votes are akin to mailing in a magazine subscription. If you have reputable links of record numbers of dead people voting, please provide them. If you have nothing but YouTube vids or right wing conspiracy blogs, save it.
Is it your position that we have strong and effective controls to detect and prevent voting fraud? Not vote-counting fraud, but voting fraud.
If so, what are those controls, and how did they function in November 2020?
Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden… if so, cite & link your evidence. Here is DJT’s own Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency stating the election was the most secure in US history… if you have access to more accurate & current information than Chris Krebs, then please share. If, on the other hand, you have anecdotes from a past life or personal experiences from 30 years ago, then save those tales for those more likely to be impressed.
(05-12-2021 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Wow…
someone has swallowed the lie hook, line, sinker… as if mail in votes are akin to mailing in a magazine subscription. If you have reputable links of record numbers of dead people voting, please provide them. If you have nothing but YouTube vids or right wing conspiracy blogs, save it.
Is it your position that we have strong and effective controls to detect and prevent voting fraud? Not vote-counting fraud, but voting fraud.
If so, what are those controls, and how did they function in November 2020?
Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden… if so, cite & link your evidence. Here is DJT’s own Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency stating the election was the most secure in US history… if you have access to more accurate & current information than Chris Krebs, then please share. If, on the other hand, you have anecdotes from a past life or personal experiences from 30 years ago, then save those tales for those more likely to be impressed.
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
Link?
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security says you’re wrong but if you have evidence to the contrary then please share it. If you don’t, then you’re just spreading baseless, Sydney Powell/ Lin Wood internet conspiracy theories like the rest of the lunatic fringe.
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
And was so heavily altered by massive "emergency" mail-out ballots that we may never know.
It was intentional "water muddying" on an industrial scale.
Again, those in position to know say you’re wrong… but there is no arguing “feelings”, “hunches” or “ya knows”…
Why should anyone believe any of "those" in a "position to know"? They all have a vested interest in propagating the notion that the election was perfect. Same with climate "scientists" pushing the THEORY that human beings and their byproducts are causing climate change. No one intentionally turns off their own gravy train, and your government's job is to keep you calm and docile, not tell you the truth.
(This post was last modified: 05-12-2021 10:17 AM by 49RFootballNow.)
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
Link?
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security says you’re wrong but if you have evidence to the contrary then please share it. If you don’t, then you’re just spreading baseless, Sydney Powell/ Lin Wood internet conspiracy theories like the rest of the lunatic fringe.
That is not his position. The lunatic fringe thinks it was cyber fraud. Reasonable people see the removal of vote watchers and all controls on mail in ballots as the circumstantial evidence of massive fraud.
"...In Georgia, Trump sued “an improper party” over the 90 percent decline in the ballot-rejection rate. The argument over the alleged 20,000 Georgia non-residents who voted couldn’t be heard because Georgia’s secretary of state, the respondent, was not himself a candidate for office.
Trump’s lawsuit in Michigan over failure to allow access to his observers was ruled moot because it was filed late. That was when we saw people applauding as Republican observers were evicted and plywood placed over the windows. The judge also ignored a recent ruling requiring surveillance of all drop boxes installed after October 1. The allegation in Pennsylvania that between 144,000 and 288,000 possibly illegal absentee ballots were accepted was rejected because the request came in 11 days late. Judicial allegations by the Trump campaign of widespread irregularities in Wisconsin were not adjudicated because a divided state Supreme Court determined that the case had to start in the lower courts and wind its way upwards, completely impossible within the constitutional deadlines...."
(05-12-2021 11:00 AM)bullet Wrote: "...In Georgia, Trump sued “an improper party” over the 90 percent decline in the ballot-rejection rate. The argument over the alleged 20,000 Georgia non-residents who voted couldn’t be heard because Georgia’s secretary of state, the respondent, was not himself a candidate for office.
Trump’s lawsuit in Michigan over failure to allow access to his observers was ruled moot because it was filed late. That was when we saw people applauding as Republican observers were evicted and plywood placed over the windows. The judge also ignored a recent ruling requiring surveillance of all drop boxes installed after October 1. The allegation in Pennsylvania that between 144,000 and 288,000 possibly illegal absentee ballots were accepted was rejected because the request came in 11 days late. Judicial allegations by the Trump campaign of widespread irregularities in Wisconsin were not adjudicated because a divided state Supreme Court determined that the case had to start in the lower courts and wind its way upwards, completely impossible within the constitutional deadlines...."
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
Link?
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security says you’re wrong but if you have evidence to the contrary then please share it. If you don’t, then you’re just spreading baseless, Sydney Powell/ Lin Wood internet conspiracy theories like the rest of the lunatic fringe.
That is not his position. The lunatic fringe thinks it was cyber fraud. Reasonable people see the removal of vote watchers and all controls on mail in ballots as the circumstantial evidence of massive fraud.
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
And was so heavily altered by massive "emergency" mail-out ballots that we may never know.
It was intentional "water muddying" on an industrial scale.
Again, those in position to know say you’re wrong… but there is no arguing “feelings”, “hunches” or “ya knows”…
Why should anyone believe any of "those" in a "position to know"? They all have a vested interest in propagating the notion that the election was perfect. Same with climate "scientists" pushing the THEORY that human beings and their byproducts are causing climate change. No one intentionally turns off their own gravy train, and your government's job is to keep you calm and docile, not tell you the truth.
None have a more vested interest than Trump in his attempts to discredit our electoral system… just as he did our judicial system, military, healthcare agencies, intelligence agencies, etc… Donald Trump attacked and tried to destroy any agency that checked his power.
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
Link?
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security says you’re wrong but if you have evidence to the contrary then please share it. If you don’t, then you’re just spreading baseless, Sydney Powell/ Lin Wood internet conspiracy theories like the rest of the lunatic fringe.
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security is a Blob (see my explanation of the term elsewhere) bureaucrat whose primary objectives are, in order, 1) my career, 2) my agency, and 3) doing the job I'm supposed to do, just like any other good bureaucrat. His statements are going to be prejudiced by that order of priorities.
(05-12-2021 09:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is your position there was widespread voter fraud which tilted the election from Donald Trump to Joe Biden?
My position is that I don't know, and you don't either, nor does anyone else, because our system is so insecure that it is not possible to know.
Link?
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security says you’re wrong but if you have evidence to the contrary then please share it. If you don’t, then you’re just spreading baseless, Sydney Powell/ Lin Wood internet conspiracy theories like the rest of the lunatic fringe.
The Director of US Cybersecurity/Security is a Blob (see my explanation of the term elsewhere) bureaucrat whose primary objectives are, in order, 1) my career, 2) my agency, and 3) doing the job I'm supposed to do, just like any other good bureaucrat. His statements are going to be prejudiced by that order of priorities.
