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RE: Kentucky State and Virginia State in talks with the MEAC
The D2 MEAC I proposed is technically a new conference, created by the remaining members of the original MEAC after they sell their D1 conference "shell" (with NCAAT autobid). But I do think it's more plausible for the CIAA and/or SIAC to simply absorb any MEAC members that drop to D2.
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05-28-2021 05:17 PM
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RE: Kentucky State and Virginia State in talks with the MEAC
(05-27-2021 09:47 PM)Todor Wrote:  Even if the MEAC almost falls apart, I just don't see that many current D1 schools voluntarily dropping to D2 because of what could turn out to be a short-term lack of a home. They haven't exhausted their options yet. Not by a long shot. I don't see them dropping down so easily, just because they'd fit well in a regional CIAA spin off.

Agreed--Morgan and Del State could certainly hang around as independents and pick up guarantee games before throwing in the towel. By that point, maybe the NEC extends a lifeline.
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RE: Kentucky State and Virginia State in talks with the MEAC
(05-28-2021 11:18 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-28-2021 05:59 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-27-2021 08:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(05-27-2021 07:54 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-27-2021 04:58 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Perhaps if/when the MEAC has to drop to D2...

There isn't going to be a D2 MEAC for Kentucky State to join either because what remains will be absorbed by the CIAA.

There are a couple ways it could go.

(02-15-2021 12:14 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-13-2021 04:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Assuming that of the remaining 8 MEAC schools, only Howard (NEC), NCCU (Big South), and NSU (Big South) manage to find other D1 homes, there will be 32 schools (plus 1 FB-only affiliate) among the MEAC schools dropping to D2, the CIAA and SIAC schools, and potential future D2 member Edward Waters. Here's how I might split them into 3 conferences:

CIAA (10 schools in NC and SC + 1 FB affiliate in NC)
FB (9+1): Allen, Chowan (FB only), Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, SC State, Shaw, St. Augustine's, Winston-Salem State
NFB (1): Claflin

MEAC (10 schools in DE, KY, MD, OH, PA, and VA)
FB (8): Bowie State, Central State, Delaware State, Kentucky State, Lincoln, Morgan State, Virginia State, Virginia Union
NFB (2): Coppin State, UMES

SIAC (12 schools in AL, FL, GA, SC, and TN)
FB (10): Albany State, Benedict, Clark Atlanta, Edward Waters, Fort Valley State, Lane, Miles, Morehouse, Savannah State, Tuskegee
NFB (2): LeMoyne-Owen, Spring Hill

So the demoted MEAC adds 4 schools from the CIAA (Bowie, Lincoln, VA St., VA Union) in exchange for SC St., and also adds 2 schools from the SIAC (Central St., KY St.). The remaining CIAA schools (now incl. SC St.) add 1 school from the SIAC (newcomer Allen). This leaves 11 schools in the SIAC, who are joined by Edward Waters.

As an alternative to the 3-conference D2 alignment above, here's a more conservative 2-conference D2 alignment for the CIAA and SIAC wherein they take in 5 MEAC schools that drop to D2 plus Edward Waters. In this scenario, no schools are exchanged between the CIAA and SIAC. Current MEAC members are underlined.

CIAA (16 schools in DE, MD, NC, PA, SC, and VA + 1 FB affiliate in NC)
FB (13+1): Bowie State, Chowan (FB only), Delaware State, Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, Johnson C. Smith, Lincoln, Livingstone, Morgan State, Shaw, St. Augustine's, Virginia State, Virginia Union, Winston-Salem State
NFB (3): Claflin, Coppin State, UMES

SIAC (16 schools in AL, FL, GA, KY, OH, SC, and TN)
FB (14): Albany State, Allen, Benedict, Central State, Clark Atlanta, Edward Waters, Fort Valley State, Kentucky State, Lane, Miles, Morehouse, Savannah State, SC State, Tuskegee
NFB (2): LeMoyne-Owen, Spring Hill

Note that both conferences maintain an even number of FB (14) and MBB (16) members.


You got to wonder that Talladega College announced that they are looking to add football wants to make a leap to D2 SIAA in the future? I think South Carolina State will try and stay in D1 to join the ASun.

Talladega College is not part of the conversation, with or without football, so not wondering there. There is no D2 SIAA but there was a SIAA that disbanded in 1942 and included most of the current SEC.


I meant SIAC.
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RE: Kentucky State and Virginia State in talks with the MEAC
(05-28-2021 09:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-28-2021 11:18 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-28-2021 05:59 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-27-2021 08:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(05-27-2021 07:54 PM)AZcats Wrote:  There isn't going to be a D2 MEAC for Kentucky State to join either because what remains will be absorbed by the CIAA.

There are a couple ways it could go.

(02-15-2021 12:14 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  As an alternative to the 3-conference D2 alignment above, here's a more conservative 2-conference D2 alignment for the CIAA and SIAC wherein they take in 5 MEAC schools that drop to D2 plus Edward Waters. In this scenario, no schools are exchanged between the CIAA and SIAC. Current MEAC members are underlined.

CIAA (16 schools in DE, MD, NC, PA, SC, and VA + 1 FB affiliate in NC)
FB (13+1): Bowie State, Chowan (FB only), Delaware State, Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, Johnson C. Smith, Lincoln, Livingstone, Morgan State, Shaw, St. Augustine's, Virginia State, Virginia Union, Winston-Salem State
NFB (3): Claflin, Coppin State, UMES

SIAC (16 schools in AL, FL, GA, KY, OH, SC, and TN)
FB (14): Albany State, Allen, Benedict, Central State, Clark Atlanta, Edward Waters, Fort Valley State, Kentucky State, Lane, Miles, Morehouse, Savannah State, SC State, Tuskegee
NFB (2): LeMoyne-Owen, Spring Hill

Note that both conferences maintain an even number of FB (14) and MBB (16) members.

You got to wonder that Talladega College announced that they are looking to add football wants to make a leap to D2 SIAA in the future? I think South Carolina State will try and stay in D1 to join the ASun.

Talladega College is not part of the conversation, with or without football, so not wondering there. There is no D2 SIAA but there was a SIAA that disbanded in 1942 and included most of the current SEC.

I meant SIAC.

Sure you did. You quoted a post that mentioned "SIAC" 8 times and you still called the conference by the wrong name. What do you call the other times you "meant" SIAC?

https://csnbbs.com/thread-847354-post-16...id16152945

https://csnbbs.com/thread-895277-post-16...id16843693

https://csnbbs.com/thread-915849-post-17...id17252981
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