(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 06:11 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 04:39 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 12:12 PM)YNot Wrote:  Not really. Quite lame, actually. #17 USC would have automatic preference over Notre Dame, even if Notre Dame is ranked in the top 6 and beats USC in the regular season.

I wouldn't mind to consider to have the top 5 champions, if there is no distinction between P5 and G5....but, the P5 would never agree to that, so CFP 6 is dead upon arrival unless there are no automatic bids - ie, Straight Six.

I have zero sympathy for ND, if they get passed over for a weaker conference champion. They’ve had every opportunity to join a major conference but they’ve rebuffed every offer.

Truth be told, the original Big East would have been the ideal set up—swap Temple out for them and you get:

ND
BC-(rivalry)
Syracuse
Pitt-(rivalry)
Rutgers-(NYC exposure)
WVU
VT
Miami-(rivalry)

That’s only a 7 game commitment and would have left them wiggle room for Navy, USC, and some Big Ten schools.

Put ND in that league and I doubt the ACC could have raided it.

OK. Do the same analysis to compare #17 USC to a top-6 AAC champ like Cincinnati. That would be absolutely lame for USC to reach the CFP over Cincinnati.

This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

(05-12-2021 08:13 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 07:56 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:02 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 04:39 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 12:12 PM)YNot Wrote:  Not really. Quite lame, actually. #17 USC would have automatic preference over Notre Dame, even if Notre Dame is ranked in the top 6 and beats USC in the regular season.

I wouldn't mind to consider to have the top 5 champions, if there is no distinction between P5 and G5....but, the P5 would never agree to that, so CFP 6 is dead upon arrival unless there are no automatic bids - ie, Straight Six.

I have zero sympathy for ND, if they get passed over for a weaker conference champion. They’ve had every opportunity to join a major conference but they’ve rebuffed every offer.

Truth be told, the original Big East would have been the ideal set up—swap Temple out for them and you get:

ND
BC-(rivalry)
Syracuse
Pitt-(rivalry)
Rutgers-(NYC exposure)
WVU
VT
Miami-(rivalry)

That’s only a 7 game commitment and would have left them wiggle room for Navy, USC, and some Big Ten schools.

Put ND in that league and I doubt the ACC could have raided it.

Here’s what fans need to understand and I keep repeating since it seems to get lost all of the time: no one in power wants ND to “join a conference” because what that really means is that ND is joining the ACC. The thought of “forcing ND” to do anything is a complete fan-based wish that the university presidents don’t want any part of here.

Why on Earth would the Big Ten and SEC, who directly compete with the ACC in their respective regions, want to just gift the ACC with arguably the most valuable brand in college sports? The Big 2 conferences of the P5 would instantly become the Big 3. That’s what “forcing ND to join a conference” would entail. We just got a preview of that in this pandemic year where ND got into the CFP as the ACC runner-up.

I understand that many fans feel that ND receive special treatment, but the point is that the university presidents of the ACC’s competitors absolutely 100% would want ND to stay independent forever at this point. Any new playoff system will be designed to make ND quite happy with their independence status quo because that actually helps the Big Ten and SEC pretty directly (by keeping them out of the ACC full-time).

Yes, which is why while I have criticized ND for their deal with the AAC, as I think it overall favors the ACC, I do agree that one thing it did was protect ND independence by providing a kind of "poison pill" for the SEC and B1G to have to swallow if they want to force ND in to a conference.

ND was pressured, primarily by the B1G, for much of the 2000s, about joining. The ACC deal has alleviated that pressure by making it a formal reality that if ND is forced to join a conference by playoff structures, it will join the ACC. And as you say, the B1G doesn't want that. It has also given the Irish added power over the kind of playoff structure that is implemented, because ND has made it clear that reasonable access to the playoffs is what allows it to remain independent.

And because the SEC doesn't want ND joining the ACC either, it in effect creates an ally for Notre Dame in preserving their independence from that powerful source as well. And as you note, if anything, the 2020 experience, with ND giving the ACC two playoff teams, and the ACC title game outshining the SEC and B1G title games, was a clear warning shot reminder to those conferences of what a strengthened ACC could look like with ND in the fold.

“Poison pill” is a GREAT way of describing the ND-ACC deal. This is ND directly saying, “If you force us into joining a conference, it’s going to be the ACC and not your league.” That pretty much eliminated all incentives for the Big Ten to pressure ND (as the B1G used to think that ND would join them instead of a competitor). In fact, the Big Ten has been nicer than ever with ND by inviting them to play in their hockey league. The Big Ten knows that the courtship with ND is over (unlike in 2010), so they’d much rather have ND be independent forever compared to joining the ACC.

The SEC impact is more indirect, but it would be foolish to think that they would do anything to encourage ND to join the ACC full-time, either. The fans might not claim to care (despite seeing that this past year where ND played in the ACC resulted in the ACC getting 2 playoff teams instead of the SEC) , but the university presidents aren’t stupid. They’d certainly be worried if Texas or Ohio State joined the ACC and ND is as big of a brand as either of them.

Like I’ve said, ND in the ACC makes the ACC into a league that has the same level of power with the Big Ten and SEC, which is something that neither the Big Ten nor SEC want for the long-term.

Could you imagine the TV contract the ACC would have with ND in it full time for FB in both the regular season and potentially annually in the Conference Championship Game. Just put them in the weaker division opposite of Clemson. You have a potential in conference National Championship Game with that set up every year blowing up any fan desire to watch anything after that game. Their fans will turn their TV sets right to the ACC basketball season where the ACC shines best historically after that game shutting down the East Coast that the ACC now dominates with the OLD BIG EAST gone.

(05-12-2021 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 06:11 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 04:39 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I have zero sympathy for ND, if they get passed over for a weaker conference champion. They’ve had every opportunity to join a major conference but they’ve rebuffed every offer.

Truth be told, the original Big East would have been the ideal set up—swap Temple out for them and you get:

ND
BC-(rivalry)
Syracuse
Pitt-(rivalry)
Rutgers-(NYC exposure)
WVU
VT
Miami-(rivalry)

That’s only a 7 game commitment and would have left them wiggle room for Navy, USC, and some Big Ten schools.

Put ND in that league and I doubt the ACC could have raided it.

OK. Do the same analysis to compare #17 USC to a top-6 AAC champ like Cincinnati. That would be absolutely lame for USC to reach the CFP over Cincinnati.

This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

I agree, but you have to admit that the difference between getting one or zero teams in, and having no representation at all, is a bigger deal than the difference between two and one.

I like 8 with the 5 auto bids, think auto bids are very important to keep interest up around the country. I would also try to force the big 12 to expand to at least 12. No playoff autobid or conference title games to leagues under 12 teams

(05-12-2021 09:38 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 06:11 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK. Do the same analysis to compare #17 USC to a top-6 AAC champ like Cincinnati. That would be absolutely lame for USC to reach the CFP over Cincinnati.

This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

I agree, but you have to admit that the difference between getting one or zero teams in, and having no representation at all, is a bigger deal than the difference between two and one.

Oh I readily agree that all conferences want an autobid - everyone wants something for nothing - I just don't think it's a good idea from my POV, which, being someone who isn't running a conference, is a bit different.

(05-12-2021 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 06:11 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 04:39 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I have zero sympathy for ND, if they get passed over for a weaker conference champion. They’ve had every opportunity to join a major conference but they’ve rebuffed every offer.

Truth be told, the original Big East would have been the ideal set up—swap Temple out for them and you get:

ND
BC-(rivalry)
Syracuse
Pitt-(rivalry)
Rutgers-(NYC exposure)
WVU
VT
Miami-(rivalry)

That’s only a 7 game commitment and would have left them wiggle room for Navy, USC, and some Big Ten schools.

Put ND in that league and I doubt the ACC could have raided it.

OK. Do the same analysis to compare #17 USC to a top-6 AAC champ like Cincinnati. That would be absolutely lame for USC to reach the CFP over Cincinnati.

This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

IMO, the auto bids will promote engagement of more P5 fan bases, plus grow the interest in the playoffs. More power teams should also be willing to play challenging OOC games...recognizing that OOC competition carries less brand risk. The conference commissioners will be growing the pie for everyone.

From a practical perspective, it’s one highly ranked (has been a #6 ranked team) P5 school every-other-year that will be hurt by allowing auto bids for all P5 champs. Based on experience, the probability of any highly ranked P5 school being jumped due to P5 auto bids is about 50/50 in a 6 team playoffs. The benefits from P5 auto bids seem well worth the loss in competitive purity.

(05-12-2021 10:56 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 06:11 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK. Do the same analysis to compare #17 USC to a top-6 AAC champ like Cincinnati. That would be absolutely lame for USC to reach the CFP over Cincinnati.

This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

IMO, the auto bids will promote engagement of more P5 fan bases, plus grow the interest in the playoffs. More power teams should also be willing to play challenging OOC games...recognizing that OOC competition carries less brand risk. The conference commissioners will be growing the pie for everyone.

From a practical perspective, it’s one highly ranked (has been a #6 ranked team) P5 school every-other-year that will be hurt by allowing auto bids for all P5 champs. Based on experience, the probability of any highly ranked P5 school being jumped due to P5 auto bids is about 50/50 in a 6 team playoffs. The benefits from P5 auto bids seem well worth the loss in competitive purity.

well if the G5 teams get locked out, then any win by a P5 school over a G5 school should not be counted towards their ranking or total wins. Better yet only play P5 schools and beat each other up like they did in 2020.

(05-12-2021 10:56 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 06:11 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK. Do the same analysis to compare #17 USC to a top-6 AAC champ like Cincinnati. That would be absolutely lame for USC to reach the CFP over Cincinnati.

This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

IMO, the auto bids will promote engagement of more P5 fan bases, plus grow the interest in the playoffs. More power teams should also be willing to play challenging OOC games...recognizing that OOC competition carries less brand risk. The conference commissioners will be growing the pie for everyone.

From a practical perspective, it’s one highly ranked (has been a #6 ranked team) P5 school every-other-year that will be hurt by allowing auto bids for all P5 champs. Based on experience, the probability of any highly ranked P5 school being jumped due to P5 auto bids is about 50/50 in a 6 team playoffs. The benefits from P5 auto bids seem well worth the loss in competitive purity.

Since I don't see *any* benefits from autobids I don't think they are worth any costs. Regarding the points you make, IMO I doubt fan engagement will rise, as most teams will be quickly eliminated from playoffs anyway, and I do not like the idea of meaningless OOC games, and I think OOC games will become pretty meaningless once you can lose them and still get your conferences autobid. So I don't think the pie will grow for everyone, though it might very well be a kind of life-jacket for conferences that are currently struggling and stand to benefit, the PAC and AAC come immediately to mind.

But for say the B1G and SEC, I don't see any upside at all. I see downside for them, in that autobids, if a part of a small 8-team field, will likely "level out" the power among the P5, and as the big kahunas, they don't really want that to happen.

That's why I think we won't see autobids unless the field is at least 12 strong.

(05-12-2021 03:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  But for say the B1G and SEC, I don't see any upside at all. I see downside for them, in that autobids, if a part of a small 8-team field, will likely "level out" the power among the P5, and as the big kahunas, they don't really want that to happen.

Amen!

(05-12-2021 03:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 10:56 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-12-2021 08:58 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 07:37 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  This is a hypothetical without practical meaning. Based on 7 years of CFP experience, a G5 champion/team has never achieved a top 6 finish. In the unlikely instance when a G5 is in the top 6, it’s more likely that it will make the playoff. The G5 has a much better chance of making a 6 team, rather than a 4 team, playoff.

The real losers of P5 auto bids are strong teams from other P5 conferences...in 2016, Michigan gets bumped by Oklahoma; in 2020, Texas A&M gets bumped by Oregon. It’s the P2 (SEC and PAC) giving up slots to the B12/PAC.

That wasn't the issue raised. The issue is that, in a situation where a #17 ranked P5 champ gets a handout CFP spot in a 6-team format, they pass over 1-2 better conference champs, even if they are ranked in the top 10, even in a ranking system that is built to undervalue them.

The hypothetical scenario raised is that the 5th best team with the 8th best ranking is left out, and the 30th best team with the 17th best ranking gets in instead.

P5 autobids hurt any highly-ranked P5 team that isn't a conference champ, and it hurts G5 teams as well.

Just look at this past year - Oregon would have gotten in to a 5-1-2 playoff over not just many much better P5 teams, but even with Cincy in as the G5 champ, they would have gotten in over MW champ San Jose State and Sun Belt champ Coastal Carolina as well, both of whom were higher ranked in the final CFP poll.

P5 autobids hurt everyone except the P5 team getting the autobid. Bad idea, IMO, even though of course all the P5 conferences want it.

IMO, the auto bids will promote engagement of more P5 fan bases, plus grow the interest in the playoffs. More power teams should also be willing to play challenging OOC games...recognizing that OOC competition carries less brand risk. The conference commissioners will be growing the pie for everyone.

From a practical perspective, it’s one highly ranked (has been a #6 ranked team) P5 school every-other-year that will be hurt by allowing auto bids for all P5 champs. Based on experience, the probability of any highly ranked P5 school being jumped due to P5 auto bids is about 50/50 in a 6 team playoffs. The benefits from P5 auto bids seem well worth the loss in competitive purity.

Since I don't see *any* benefits from autobids I don't think they are worth any costs. Regarding the points you make, IMO I doubt fan engagement will rise, as most teams will be quickly eliminated from playoffs anyway, and I do not like the idea of meaningless OOC games, and I think OOC games will become pretty meaningless once you can lose them and still get your conferences autobid. So I don't think the pie will grow for everyone, though it might very well be a kind of life-jacket for conferences that are currently struggling and stand to benefit, the PAC and AAC come immediately to mind.

But for say the B1G and SEC, I don't see any upside at all. I see downside for them, in that autobids, if a part of a small 8-team field, will likely "level out" the power among the P5, and as the big kahunas, they don't really want that to happen.

That's why I think we won't see autobids unless the field is at least 12 strong.

I definitely see the benefits and value of auto-bids. I refer again to the NFL. Not only does every division champ make the playoffs, but they are higher seeded than the wild card teams and get to host their first game. If you don't think that ups the interest in a Week 17 matchup between the Giants and Cowboys, both coming in at 8-7, who would otherwise already be eliminated, you've lost your mind. Auto-bids are the only reason fans outside of those two fanbases are watching that game.

The best scenario that they can put together would be one that makes the most OOC games, regular season games, conference championships, bowl games, and playoff games interesting and meaningful to the most people.

Like it or not, I think autobids are must for a playoff expansion. G5 will get a guaranteed spot, too. Otherwise, it won’t pass.