(05-25-2021 03:27 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 03:20 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  The announcement is that Albertson Stadium will be back to full capacity use this season.

That’s great for Boise!

Not so exciting for realignment enthusiasts

Nice use of "realignment enthusiasts," FMuskie. Would have been a fine name for a hard-core punk band from the late 1970s.

(05-25-2021 02:28 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  The only way the western expansion will work is to get BYU.

The only way BYU comes is if AAC gets P6 status.

The only way P6 status happens is if the AAC takes the best of the rest
And convinces ESPN to do a major contract that reflects the new membership, a major bowl partner(s) tie in, and P5 to accept that league as an auto-bid league.

All of which are a long shot at best.


But if the AAC is going to do it, it has to be structured to make a big splash all at one time, and have all of those things in place behind the scenes so when it makes its move, it’s considered a major jump up in appearance to garner the public perception of true P6 and a shift.

If anyone can do it, I think Aresco can.

(05-25-2021 02:28 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  The only way the western expansion will work is to get BYU.

The only way BYU comes is if AAC gets P6 status.

The only way P6 status happens is if the AAC takes the best of the rest
And convinces ESPN to do a major contract that reflects the new membership, a major bowl partner(s) tie in, and P5 to accept that league as an auto-bid league.

All of which are a long shot at best.


But if the AAC is going to do it, it has to be structured to make a big splash all at one time, and have all of those things in place behind the scenes so when it makes its move, it’s considered a major jump up in appearance to garner the public perception of true P6 and a shift.

It's not the only way.

Western expansion: start with Boise State.

Affiliate with BYU and Army: add some consistent, strong OOC games to the lineup and foster stronger ties with your two top targets. Army-Navy and BYU-Boise become marquee AAC non-conference rivalry games.

Major Bowl: deliberately avoid the G5's NY6 bid and instead focus on a bowl in affiliation with BYU and Army, similar to the ACC's (and old Big East's) situation with Notre Dame.

2 bowls that the expanded AAC+Army/BYU could focus on are the Holiday Bowl and the Liberty Bowl. Both have history of hosting ranked teams and could be played on New Year's Eve, Saturday before New Year's, or even New Year's Day.

The AAC could make a major splash with an announcement that:
- Boise State is joining the conference
- the conference has officially affiliated with Army and BYU for some OOC games and bowl games
- major bowl contracts that include games against quality opponents on or near New Year's

With Boise officially in and BYU and Army affiliates, the AAC improves its TV inventory, strengthens its bowl position, and increases its opportunity to actually attract BYU as a conference mate and to step into real P6 territory.

(05-25-2021 07:02 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 02:28 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  The only way the western expansion will work is to get BYU.

The only way BYU comes is if AAC gets P6 status.

The only way P6 status happens is if the AAC takes the best of the rest
And convinces ESPN to do a major contract that reflects the new membership, a major bowl partner(s) tie in, and P5 to accept that league as an auto-bid league.

All of which are a long shot at best.


But if the AAC is going to do it, it has to be structured to make a big splash all at one time, and have all of those things in place behind the scenes so when it makes its move, it’s considered a major jump up in appearance to garner the public perception of true P6 and a shift.

If anyone can do it, I think Aresco can.

The P5 aint sharing their money, no matter who the AAC adds.

(05-26-2021 08:00 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 07:02 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 02:28 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  The only way the western expansion will work is to get BYU.

The only way BYU comes is if AAC gets P6 status.

The only way P6 status happens is if the AAC takes the best of the rest
And convinces ESPN to do a major contract that reflects the new membership, a major bowl partner(s) tie in, and P5 to accept that league as an auto-bid league.

All of which are a long shot at best.


But if the AAC is going to do it, it has to be structured to make a big splash all at one time, and have all of those things in place behind the scenes so when it makes its move, it’s considered a major jump up in appearance to garner the public perception of true P6 and a shift.

If anyone can do it, I think Aresco can.

The P5 aint sharing their money, no matter who the AAC adds.

Who said anything about sharing? The big dogs have their contracts, that isn’t going to change. The AAC offers more content/viewership that could be attractive to ESPN, especially in the western time zones. Anything can happen.

(05-26-2021 08:22 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-26-2021 08:00 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 07:02 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 02:28 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  The only way the western expansion will work is to get BYU.

The only way BYU comes is if AAC gets P6 status.

The only way P6 status happens is if the AAC takes the best of the rest
And convinces ESPN to do a major contract that reflects the new membership, a major bowl partner(s) tie in, and P5 to accept that league as an auto-bid league.

All of which are a long shot at best.


But if the AAC is going to do it, it has to be structured to make a big splash all at one time, and have all of those things in place behind the scenes so when it makes its move, it’s considered a major jump up in appearance to garner the public perception of true P6 and a shift.

If anyone can do it, I think Aresco can.

The P5 aint sharing their money, no matter who the AAC adds.

Who said anything about sharing? The big dogs have their contracts, that isn’t going to change. The AAC offers more content/viewership that could be attractive to ESPN, especially in the western time zones. Anything can happen.

But so does any G5. The sad fact is that those viewerships are hard to count when the G5 Markets are already dominated by P5 schools. Why bank on viewership of Cincinnati when OSU and Louisville already have that market covered? and so on and so forth.

(05-26-2021 12:40 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-26-2021 08:22 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-26-2021 08:00 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 07:02 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 02:28 PM)ThunderDent Wrote:  The only way the western expansion will work is to get BYU.

The only way BYU comes is if AAC gets P6 status.

The only way P6 status happens is if the AAC takes the best of the rest
And convinces ESPN to do a major contract that reflects the new membership, a major bowl partner(s) tie in, and P5 to accept that league as an auto-bid league.

All of which are a long shot at best.


But if the AAC is going to do it, it has to be structured to make a big splash all at one time, and have all of those things in place behind the scenes so when it makes its move, it’s considered a major jump up in appearance to garner the public perception of true P6 and a shift.

If anyone can do it, I think Aresco can.

The P5 aint sharing their money, no matter who the AAC adds.

Who said anything about sharing? The big dogs have their contracts, that isn’t going to change. The AAC offers more content/viewership that could be attractive to ESPN, especially in the western time zones. Anything can happen.

But so does any G5. The sad fact is that those viewerships are hard to count when the G5 Markets are already dominated by P5 schools. Why bank on viewership of Cincinnati when OSU and Louisville already have that market covered? and so on and so forth.

Don't know where you live but in Cincinnati the U. of Louisville has NO viewership. OSU is second to UC in basketball but about tied in football in Cincy. However OSU is way ahead in northern and eastern Ohio.

The Liberty and likely Holiday bowl would not be interested in AAC with or without Boise/Byu/? added.

(05-28-2021 03:43 AM)Rob3338 Wrote:  

(05-26-2021 12:40 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-26-2021 08:22 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-26-2021 08:00 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 07:02 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  If anyone can do it, I think Aresco can.

The P5 aint sharing their money, no matter who the AAC adds.

Who said anything about sharing? The big dogs have their contracts, that isn’t going to change. The AAC offers more content/viewership that could be attractive to ESPN, especially in the western time zones. Anything can happen.

But so does any G5. The sad fact is that those viewerships are hard to count when the G5 Markets are already dominated by P5 schools. Why bank on viewership of Cincinnati when OSU and Louisville already have that market covered? and so on and so forth.

Don't know where you live but in Cincinnati the U. of Louisville has NO viewership. OSU is second to UC in basketball but about tied in football in Cincy. However OSU is way ahead in northern and eastern Ohio.

Louisville has the viewership on the other side of the river. I live 3 hours from Cincinnati and when I'm there all I see are Cincinnati Reds gear and Ohio State Gear.

(05-28-2021 06:47 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The Liberty and likely Holiday bowl would not be interested in AAC with or without Boise/Byu/? added.

BYU and Boise to the AAC to get these bowls.

I think this thread is dead now. No MW team announced any conference moves.

(05-28-2021 04:23 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I think this thread is dead now. No MW team announced any conference moves.

Not yet anyway. Schools still have to the end of June to announce they are leaving though for their lame duck year this year.

(05-28-2021 08:08 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-28-2021 03:43 AM)Rob3338 Wrote:  Don't know where you live but in Cincinnati the U. of Louisville has NO viewership. OSU is second to UC in basketball but about tied in football in Cincy. However OSU is way ahead in northern and eastern Ohio.

Louisville has the viewership on the other side of the river. I live 3 hours from Cincinnati and when I'm there all I see are Cincinnati Reds gear and Ohio State Gear.

The Kentucky counties in the Cincinnati MSA are only 1/5th of the population, so even a strong position south of the river is not likely to bump Louisville football past Bearcat football as #3 in the market.

It's been a LONG, LONG time since I've lived in SW Ohio, and in the last decade the Buckeyes have had a hell of a lot more success than my Bungles, so I wouldn't hazard a guess whether the Bucks or the Bengals are first. But there isn't any NBA in town, which makes college basketball more important than it would otherwise be.

(05-28-2021 06:47 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The Liberty and likely Holiday bowl would not be interested in AAC with or without Boise/Byu/? added.

The Holiday is likely dead and wants the best P5 match up it can get if it manages to survive. BYU/BSU/? have no bearing on their interest in the AAC.