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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
I love the ACCN. If VT is playing Baseball, Softball, Wrestling, Lacrosse, Women's Basketball or any of the Revenue sports, I'm watching and so is my father. I watched a ton this week and didn't notice the lack for draft coverage because I don't tune in to P&D out of season. The ACC did plenty well in the draft, we should have been doing everything we could to promote it.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
The ACC network is there because it was promised to the conference. There is little that ESPN is doing to make it a success. The studio shows are......not good. The sets are not the quality you would expect to find from a major network (ESPN) and the on-air personalities match the sets.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
You have the best TV Sports Broadcast University in country in the league... you'd think they could hire some up and coming talent on the cheap to do some games.
You would think Packer and Durham would realize Monday needed to have a solid hour devoted to the draft. And the next half hour talking about who could get drafted in '22.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 08:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
You have the best TV Sports Broadcast University in country in the league... you'd think they could hire some up and coming talent on the cheap to do some games.
You would think Packer and Durham would realize Monday needed to have a solid hour devoted to the draft. And the next half hour talking about how could get drafted in '22.
Another point that I find disturbing is why isnt the ACCN on all over Florida? Why isnt it on in Tallahassee? The host says he lives in Tally and he cant get the ACCN. Its available all over the Carolinas, all over Virginia and all over, of all places, NY.
I agree with them that the league needs to concentrate less on other sports and much more so on football. But the ACC as a league is not the SEC, so they should not emulate the SECN completely as those 2 bozos suggest. Basketball is a big part of who the ACC is and this league actually wins championships and goes to final fours in bb. Its the main reason that the ACCN is in so many homes. You cant totally abandon this audience. But the ACCN could definitely place more emphasis on fb, as those guys suggested, by concentrating on the draft during this time of the year and focusing on the ACC players who were drafted. They could also talk about all the Acc players who went undrafted and their options. During the offseason, they could concentrate on recruiting and coaches and each program.
The coverage of the ACCN in my opinion, should be 55% fb, 30% bb, 15% all other sports.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 09:10 AM)cuseroc Wrote: (05-05-2021 08:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
You have the best TV Sports Broadcast University in country in the league... you'd think they could hire some up and coming talent on the cheap to do some games.
You would think Packer and Durham would realize Monday needed to have a solid hour devoted to the draft. And the next half hour talking about how could get drafted in '22.
Another point that I find disturbing is why isnt the ACCN on all over Florida? Why isnt it on in Tallahassee? The host says he lives in Tally and he cant get the ACCN. Its available all over the Carolinas, all over Virginia and all over, of all places, NY.
I agree with them that the league needs to concentrate less on other sports and much more so on football. But the ACC as a league is not the SEC, so they should not emulate the SECN completely as those 2 bozos suggest. Basketball is a big part of who the ACC is and this league actually wins championships and goes to final fours in bb. Its the main reason that the ACCN is in so many homes. You cant totally abandon this audience. But the ACCN could definitely place more emphasis on fb, as those guys suggested, by concentrating on the draft during this time of the year and focusing on the ACC players who were drafted. They could also talk about all the Acc players who went undrafted and their options. During the offseason, they could concentrate on recruiting and coaches and each program.
The coverage of the ACCN in my opinion, should be 55% fb, 30% bb, 15% all other sports.
70% FB, 20% MBB, 10% all other sports.
Showcase FB and MBB every chance you get.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
regardless of where you land on the %.
The DAY after the NFL draft where the ACC lands the #1 player....it should be 100% football.
Just like the day after the NBA draft and landed the #1 player it should be 100% bball.
But 80% of the revenue in college sports....more really is football.
The ACC just can't fall out of a boat and hit water.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 04:24 AM)XLance Wrote: The ACC network is there because it was promised to the conference. There is little that ESPN is doing to make it a success. The studio shows are......not good. The sets are not the quality you would expect to find from a major network (ESPN) and the on-air personalities match the sets.
Agreed except on the set. Packer's basement is my favorite set of anything on ACCN. Forget having stupid expensive studios ... just have a room where the walls are covered in ACC paraphernalia. It's not that hard or even expensive ... the schools will send you tons of stuff if you ask. The personalities feels like an error in talent management. It isn't like there's a shortage of insightful and well spoken people from the ACC to draw from. Just a few people that come to mind who you see work elsewhere to cover the ACC but who don't appear much if at all on ACCN for non-sports coverage:
- Roddy Jones
- Eric Wood
- Katie George
- Luginbill
- Chris Cotter
... Now that I'm starting this list let's just go with "recurring guests on Packer & Durham" because they don't anchor any non-live sports show and they're all better than the existing anchors.
(05-05-2021 08:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
Agreed. And the ND hoops player isn't that awesome either. And Richt shoulda been a no from day 1 due to the UGA affiliation.
I also think the proportion of coverage is pretty wack. I feel like baseball should be the dominant coverage story and yet it's back seat even on Packer & Durham. There is however an avalanche of lacrosse and soccer. I get it ... the ACC is stellar in both sports in both genders. But that isn't what drives fan interest. That isn't what pays the bills. That isn't in your long term self interest unless you think soccer and/or lacrosse are going to suddenly emerge as a Top 3 sport in this country. Also an entire day of Packer & Durham - literally 3 hours - devoted to Roy's retirement? Come onnnnnn. They also re-run too heavily. Way too heavily. Why is there nothing on tailgating and school-centric food/bars?
Now I'll give the devil his due on a few things the ACCN has got right:
- ACCN documentaries
- Traditions series
- Packer & Durham
- Announcing ACC news live on Packer & Durham
Packer & Durham is like the beacon of bright light in a dark and desolate landscape. And All-ACC is like an inky black void.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 11:33 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: (05-05-2021 04:24 AM)XLance Wrote: The ACC network is there because it was promised to the conference. There is little that ESPN is doing to make it a success. The studio shows are......not good. The sets are not the quality you would expect to find from a major network (ESPN) and the on-air personalities match the sets.
Agreed except on the set. Packer's basement is my favorite set of anything on ACCN. Forget having stupid expensive studios ... just have a room where the walls are covered in ACC paraphernalia. It's not that hard or even expensive ... the schools will send you tons of stuff if you ask. The personalities feels like an error in talent management. It isn't like there's a shortage of insightful and well spoken people from the ACC to draw from. Just a few people that come to mind who you see work elsewhere to cover the ACC but who don't appear much if at all on ACCN for non-sports coverage:
- Roddy Jones
- Eric Wood
- Katie George
- Luginbill
- Chris Cotter
... Now that I'm starting this list let's just go with "recurring guests on Packer & Durham" because they don't anchor any non-live sports show and they're all better than the existing anchors.
(05-05-2021 08:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
Agreed. And the ND hoops player isn't that awesome either. And Richt shoulda been a no from day 1 due to the UGA affiliation.
I also think the proportion of coverage is pretty wack. I feel like baseball should be the dominant coverage story and yet it's back seat even on Packer & Durham. There is however an avalanche of lacrosse and soccer. I get it ... the ACC is stellar in both sports in both genders. But that isn't what drives fan interest. That isn't what pays the bills. That isn't in your long term self interest unless you think soccer and/or lacrosse are going to suddenly emerge as a Top 3 sport in this country. Also an entire day of Packer & Durham - literally 3 hours - devoted to Roy's retirement? Come onnnnnn. They also re-run too heavily. Way too heavily. Why is there nothing on tailgating and school-centric food/bars?
Now I'll give the devil his due on a few things the ACCN has got right:
- ACCN documentaries
- Traditions series
- Packer & Durham
- Announcing ACC news live on Packer & Durham
Packer & Durham is like the beacon of bright light in a dark and desolate landscape. And All-ACC is like an inky black void.
So without Packer and Durham, the ACCN's live programming is really, really lacking.
That's ESPN's fault.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 11:42 AM)XLance Wrote: (05-05-2021 11:33 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: (05-05-2021 04:24 AM)XLance Wrote: The ACC network is there because it was promised to the conference. There is little that ESPN is doing to make it a success. The studio shows are......not good. The sets are not the quality you would expect to find from a major network (ESPN) and the on-air personalities match the sets.
Agreed except on the set. Packer's basement is my favorite set of anything on ACCN. Forget having stupid expensive studios ... just have a room where the walls are covered in ACC paraphernalia. It's not that hard or even expensive ... the schools will send you tons of stuff if you ask. The personalities feels like an error in talent management. It isn't like there's a shortage of insightful and well spoken people from the ACC to draw from. Just a few people that come to mind who you see work elsewhere to cover the ACC but who don't appear much if at all on ACCN for non-sports coverage:
- Roddy Jones
- Eric Wood
- Katie George
- Luginbill
- Chris Cotter
... Now that I'm starting this list let's just go with "recurring guests on Packer & Durham" because they don't anchor any non-live sports show and they're all better than the existing anchors.
(05-05-2021 08:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
Agreed. And the ND hoops player isn't that awesome either. And Richt shoulda been a no from day 1 due to the UGA affiliation.
I also think the proportion of coverage is pretty wack. I feel like baseball should be the dominant coverage story and yet it's back seat even on Packer & Durham. There is however an avalanche of lacrosse and soccer. I get it ... the ACC is stellar in both sports in both genders. But that isn't what drives fan interest. That isn't what pays the bills. That isn't in your long term self interest unless you think soccer and/or lacrosse are going to suddenly emerge as a Top 3 sport in this country. Also an entire day of Packer & Durham - literally 3 hours - devoted to Roy's retirement? Come onnnnnn. They also re-run too heavily. Way too heavily. Why is there nothing on tailgating and school-centric food/bars?
Now I'll give the devil his due on a few things the ACCN has got right:
- ACCN documentaries
- Traditions series
- Packer & Durham
- Announcing ACC news live on Packer & Durham
Packer & Durham is like the beacon of bright light in a dark and desolate landscape. And All-ACC is like an inky black void.
So without Packer and Durham, the ACCN's live programming is really, really lacking.
That's ESPN's fault.
Agreed. Sometimes, it feels like ESPN is using the ACCN as a place to "break in" new talent that they want to use on the main network (IF they pan out which, meh...)
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 10:08 AM)nole Wrote: regardless of where you land on the %.
The DAY after the NFL draft where the ACC lands the #1 player....it should be 100% football.
Just like the day after the NBA draft and landed the #1 player it should be 100% bball.
But 80% of the revenue in college sports....more really is football.
The ACC just can't fall out of a boat and hit water.
It is more like 75% FB revenue in the ACC
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 11:42 AM)XLance Wrote: (05-05-2021 11:33 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: (05-05-2021 04:24 AM)XLance Wrote: The ACC network is there because it was promised to the conference. There is little that ESPN is doing to make it a success. The studio shows are......not good. The sets are not the quality you would expect to find from a major network (ESPN) and the on-air personalities match the sets.
Agreed except on the set. Packer's basement is my favorite set of anything on ACCN. Forget having stupid expensive studios ... just have a room where the walls are covered in ACC paraphernalia. It's not that hard or even expensive ... the schools will send you tons of stuff if you ask. The personalities feels like an error in talent management. It isn't like there's a shortage of insightful and well spoken people from the ACC to draw from. Just a few people that come to mind who you see work elsewhere to cover the ACC but who don't appear much if at all on ACCN for non-sports coverage:
- Roddy Jones
- Eric Wood
- Katie George
- Luginbill
- Chris Cotter
... Now that I'm starting this list let's just go with "recurring guests on Packer & Durham" because they don't anchor any non-live sports show and they're all better than the existing anchors.
(05-05-2021 08:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Kelsey Riggs is really bad...this is what you get when you hire locally. Mark Richt is really bad as an ex-coach. Does he do any homework at all?
Agreed. And the ND hoops player isn't that awesome either. And Richt shoulda been a no from day 1 due to the UGA affiliation.
I also think the proportion of coverage is pretty wack. I feel like baseball should be the dominant coverage story and yet it's back seat even on Packer & Durham. There is however an avalanche of lacrosse and soccer. I get it ... the ACC is stellar in both sports in both genders. But that isn't what drives fan interest. That isn't what pays the bills. That isn't in your long term self interest unless you think soccer and/or lacrosse are going to suddenly emerge as a Top 3 sport in this country. Also an entire day of Packer & Durham - literally 3 hours - devoted to Roy's retirement? Come onnnnnn. They also re-run too heavily. Way too heavily. Why is there nothing on tailgating and school-centric food/bars?
Now I'll give the devil his due on a few things the ACCN has got right:
- ACCN documentaries
- Traditions series
- Packer & Durham
- Announcing ACC news live on Packer & Durham
Packer & Durham is like the beacon of bright light in a dark and desolate landscape. And All-ACC is like an inky black void.
So without Packer and Durham, the ACCN's live programming is really, really lacking.
That's ESPN's fault.
Hmmm they are okay for the most part. Packer has a good voice. They need to get better talent for the evening show.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 04:29 PM)TexanMark Wrote: (05-05-2021 10:08 AM)nole Wrote: regardless of where you land on the %.
The DAY after the NFL draft where the ACC lands the #1 player....it should be 100% football.
Just like the day after the NBA draft and landed the #1 player it should be 100% bball.
But 80% of the revenue in college sports....more really is football.
The ACC just can't fall out of a boat and hit water.
It is more like 75% FB revenue in the ACC
Clemson Athletic Director: 80% Of ACC's Revenue From New Contract w/ ESPN Is Football
75....80.....regardless, the revenue comes from football. It's not close. This is a simple business decision. One the ACC screws up, over and over and over.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
I fail to see how the ACC itself is to blame for the network offerings of the ACCN since ACCN is an ESPN run thing.
Now I agree it sucks. They failed to cover NC State's spring game bumping it for some stupid women's ****, but that decision was likely made in Bristol, not Greensboro.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
(05-05-2021 08:04 PM)Statefan Wrote: I fail to see how the ACC itself is to blame for the network offerings of the ACCN since ACCN is an ESPN run thing.
Now I agree it sucks. They failed to cover NC State's spring game bumping it for some stupid women's ****, but that decision was likely made in Bristol, not Greensboro.
Interesting.
I don't know.
I do know that this would NEVER happen to the SEC.
I know FSU's spring game was also missed (the beginning) for a women's lacross game they refused to bump.
There are 20 million people in Florida in a state that loves football and the ACCN had women's lacross on.
The ACC always seems to have an excuse for this kind of stuff, but the ACC is what it is by design...not accident. It's a total mess.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
Women's lacrosse is hideous. Actually the girls for the most part are very talented but the rules are designed to limit contact and makes it choppy. Men's lacrosse is great game... only 2 hours long so TV schedule friendly.
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RE: ACCN priorities, maybe they should push football schools a little.
All those Floridians were probably pissed at missing a chance to watch FSU win.
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