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Biden Admin Considering Using Private Firms To Conduct Warrantless Surveillance Of U.
Quote:President Joe Biden’s administration is reportedly considering working with private firms to monitor “extremist chatter by Americans online” because the federal government is legally limited to what they can do without a warrant.

The report said the federal government is also banned from using false identities to gain access to private messaging apps and groups. The government can scan public social media profiles.

“The plan being discussed inside DHS, according to multiple sources, would, in effect, allow the department to circumvent” laws that limit what the federal government can do in surveilling U.S. citizens without a warrant, CNN reported. “A source familiar with the effort said it is not about decrypting data but rather using outside entities who can legally access these private groups to gather large amounts of information that could help DHS identify key narratives as they emerge.”

The report claimed that the private firms that the Biden administration is considering using would “act as middlemen” to obtain the information, which would consist of “broad summaries or analysis of narratives that are emerging on these sites” and would not “target specific individuals.” However, some of these firms use fake identities to access the private social media spaces that the government can’t access, which could cause potential legal headaches for the administration.

“Gathering information on US citizens — no matter how abhorrent their beliefs — raises instant constitutional and legal challenges,” the report added. “Civil liberties advocates and privacy hawks have long criticized any efforts to collect even publicly available information on Americans in bulk as a violation of Americans’ First and Fourth Amendment rights.”

The report was instantly criticized online by opponents on both sides of the aisle, including former intelligence officials.

Bryan Dean Wright, a Democrat and former CIA officer, wrote: “Joe Biden wants to ‘partner’ with the private sector to conduct surveillance because the Govt can’t do it without a warrant or ongoing investigation. This is monstrous.”

Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows responded: “They spied on Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and skated by with no consequences… and now they want to spy on you too. This is a chilling, terrible idea that should be roundly rejected.”

“The government outsourcing warrantless domestic spying of American citizens to outside corporations doesn’t make it any less dangerous, unconstitutional or illegal,” political strategist Andrew Surabian wrote. “Do any pols have the courage to stand up to an increasingly lawless & authoritarian national security state?”

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Same way democrat federal govt is using corporate big tech to stop conservative free speech. This govt-corporation fusion phenomenon has a name…fascism.
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Don't break the law and you'll be fine.


That's what we tell black people.
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speaking in tongues has it advantages.... 03-wink

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(05-04-2021 08:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  Don't break the law and you'll be fine.


That's what we tell black people.

Shhh... Don't expose the huge spy operation we have on the black people.
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(05-04-2021 08:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  Don't break the law and you'll be fine.

That's what we tell black people.
bullsh¡t on both statements
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Well at least they aren't trying to hide it anymore.
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(05-04-2021 08:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  Don't break the law and you'll be fine.


That's what we tell black people.

You're too stupid to know the difference between obeying laws and infringement of Constitutional Rights.

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So, using the private sector is NOW a bad thing? Make up your mind 03-wink
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(05-04-2021 11:13 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, using the private sector is NOW a bad thing? Make up your mind 03-wink

No, conducting warrantless surveillance is the bad thing. Who does it is irrelevant.
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(05-04-2021 08:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  Don't break the law and you'll be fine.


That's what we tell black people.

I wasn't aware the free speech was against the law. Thanks for the heads up.07-coffee3
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(05-04-2021 10:21 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 08:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  Don't break the law and you'll be fine.

That's what we tell black people.
bullsh¡t on both statements

Really. Government breaks the law all the time and gets away with it.
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(05-04-2021 11:13 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, using the private sector is NOW a bad thing? Make up your mind 03-wink

Who said using the private sector was bad. Im fully in favor using private business to take over government functions. This one however is wrong..regardless of who does it.07-coffee3
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Quote:The Intercept is now engaging in the same conduct the paper was founded to reject.

On Tuesday, one of the publication’s founders, Glenn Greenwald, who resigned last fall after his own paper refused to allow him to criticize Hunter Biden, posted an email to subscribers where its writers boast of their surveillance into conservative social media users.

“The Intercept was founded during the Snowden story to defend privacy rights & oppose the security state,” Greenwald tweeted. “Now, the liberal DNC hacks who ‘edit’ it are boasting they got personal data from Gab users & are sorting through it, doing FBI’s work to find ‘extremists.'”



Greenwald launched The Intercept in 2014 after he broke the whistleblower story from Edward Snowden detailing U.S. surveillance on American citizens while at The Guardian in 2013. Greenwald stepped down from the publication he founded in October when, at the height of the American presidential campaign, editors refused to publish Greenwald’s criticisms of then-Democrat nominee Joe Biden and the family’s potentially criminal conflicts of interest.

“The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression” Greenwald wrote in a Substack column. “The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct.”



Greenwald explained that Intercept editors went as far as to refuse Greenwald the freedom to publish the content with any other publication. They also, he says, declined his offer to refute his claims with an article of their own challenging Greenwald’s assertions and allow readers to decide with whom they agreed.

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