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The SEC led with the most draft picks for the 15th straight season. The SEC has won 11 of the last 15 national championships. That's probably not a coincidence. Here are the final number of draft picks by conferences. The AAC had 19 picks, definitely more like a "P" than a "G". As for schools, Alabama and Ohio State were at the top with 10 picks each.

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SEC ............... 65

B1G ............... 44

ACC ............... 42**

PAC ............... 28

B12 ............... 22

AAC ............... 19

Independent ... 15**

CUSA .............. 5

FCS ................ 5

MAC ............... 4

D2/D3 ............. 4

SBC ................ 4

MW ............... 3

** Some pubs have the ACC at 51 and "independent" at 6, because they are counting Notre Dame's nine picks with the ACC. I can see that, but IMO Notre Dame's football membership with the ACC lasted only until the last game was played this year, so as of now, draft time, they are "independent" again.


Top 10 Schools

Alabama -- 10
Ohio State -- 10
Georgia -- 9
Notre Dame -- 9
Florida -- 8
Michigan -- 8
LSU -- 7
Kentucky -- 6
Penn State -- 6
Pittsburgh -- 6

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ight-year/
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UCF (5), Cincinnati (4), and Houston (3) all had respectable days as well.

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No Big 12 picks in the first round. How often does a P5 conference not have at least one pick in the first round?
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SBC had 4 draft picks.
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The list is not quite correct. The PAC-12 had 28 players drafted and the Big-12 had 22 players drafted.
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(05-02-2021 11:41 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  The list is not quite correct. The PAC-12 had 28 players drafted and the Big-12 had 22 players drafted.

Thanks, I made the corrections.

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(05-02-2021 09:12 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  No Big 12 picks in the first round. How often does a P5 conference not have at least one pick in the first round?

It's the first time the Big 12 has not produced any first-round picks.

An article I read contrasted this with 10 years ago, when five of the first six draft picks were from the Big 12 (Sam Bradford, Ndamakong Suh among them).
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Thanks for the numerical break-down, Quo. I was curious.

Good work.
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Down year for the MW?
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The CFP era has been great for the P5 teams, and at the same time made it more difficult for the non-autonomous schools to recruit. Recruits know those schools have no shot to go to the playoffs, so they opt for a P5 school instead.

On top of this i believe the elite ten programs in the P5 have also gotten a push. They recruit more 5 and 4 star players than ever before. Again- kid know if he goes to the right program they are headed to the CFP. If they select the wrong program, there chances are nil.

Here are the recruits by conference from 2012, the year before the CFP was started.

ACC: 31

Big 12: 26

Big East: 12

Big Sky: 3

Big South: 2

Big Ten: 41

Conference USA: 10

Independents: 4

Lone Star: 2

MAC: 8

Mountain West: 12

Pac-12: 28

SEC: 42

Southern: 3

Sun Belt: 6

SWAC: 3

WAC: 11
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FCS picks:

NDSU: 3
Northern Iowa: 2
Central Arkansas: 1
118 other schools: 0
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(05-02-2021 01:43 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  FCS picks:

NDSU: 3
Northern Iowa: 2
Central Arkansas: 1
118 other schools: 0

Not good.
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BYU was the top non P5 school with 5 including the #2 overall.

The NFL seems to measure BYU, UCF, Cincy, Houston and Boise State as majors as far as drafting goes.

The B12 poor showing is amazing considering the played the from the start and the P12 and even B1G suffered some transfers out to schools playing.

The Playoff 4 had 33 total players drafted (Clemson was the low one, odd year, except they lost two huge weapons). That is roughly triple the rest of P5. (This is the talent concentration I referred to the playoff of 4 creates.)


The draft is actually shifting even more P5 in general than even the recent past. 210 player were from P5, 40 from G5. What's more 75% of the G5 picks (30 of 40) were day 3. Over 81% of the drafted players were P5, the highest proportion I've seen (the usual 89.1% of the first two rounds, vs 7.8% from G5 and 3.1% from FCS -- really NDSU). G5 was down to only 15.4% of those drafted.

NFL Talent is shifting toward fewer schools. That is a discernible trend in recent drafts. The Big 3 (Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson) continue to separate from the rest of P5. I blame the current 4 team playoff structure for this trend, as there are other schools that match their resources.
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(05-03-2021 03:38 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  BYU was the top non P5 school with 5 including the #2 overall.

The NFL seems to measure BYU, UCF, Cincy, Houston and Boise State as majors as far as drafting goes.

The B12 poor showing is amazing considering the played the from the start and the P12 and even B1G suffered some transfers out to schools playing.

The Playoff 4 had 33 total players drafted (Clemson was the low one, odd year, except they lost two huge weapons). That is roughly triple the rest of P5. (This is the talent concentration I referred to the playoff of 4 creates.)


The draft is actually shifting even more P5 in general than even the recent past. 210 player were from P5, 40 from G5. What's more 75% of the G5 picks (30 of 40) were day 3. Over 81% of the drafted players were P5, the highest proportion I've seen (the usual 89.1% of the first two rounds, vs 7.8% from G5 and 3.1% from FCS -- really NDSU). G5 was down to only 15.4% of those drafted.

NFL Talent is shifting toward fewer schools. That is a discernible trend in recent drafts. The Big 3 (Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson) continue to separate from the rest of P5. I blame the current 4 team playoff structure for this trend, as there are other schools that match their resources.

Cincinnati had more players drafted than every team in the B10 with the exception of OSU, Michigan and PSU. We’ll have even more kids drafted next year, as there are 6-8 players projected to be drafted.

I do concur with you the 4-team playoff is concentrating all the talent with the same programs. Looking at the 2021 recruiting cycle the top five classes are the same cast of teams that seem to get to the playoff each year: Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Georgia and Clemson. Just outside you have Oregon, Notre Dame, Oklahoma... look familiar?
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The Big 12 with just 22 picks which even adjusting for conference size was clearly the worst, and only three ahead of the AAC. Especially because they were clearly the second-best football conference on the 2020 field overall, behind only the SEC, and some metrics even had them #1 ahead of the SEC. The Big 12 produced two NY6 bowl champs this season.

They apparently are doing more with less, LOL.
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(05-03-2021 07:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  The Big 12 with just 22 picks which even adjusting for conference size was clearly the worst, and only three ahead of the AAC. Especially because they were clearly the second-best football conference on the 2020 field overall, behind only the SEC, and some metrics even had them #1 ahead of the SEC. The Big 12 produced two NY6 bowl champs this season.

They apparently are doing more with less, LOL.

Also the Big 12 style of football has a stigma against it that their players might not translate well to the NFL.The likes of Mahomes show that's hardly a solid rule, but it's there.
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(05-03-2021 08:20 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 07:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  The Big 12 with just 22 picks which even adjusting for conference size was clearly the worst, and only three ahead of the AAC. Especially because they were clearly the second-best football conference on the 2020 field overall, behind only the SEC, and some metrics even had them #1 ahead of the SEC. The Big 12 produced two NY6 bowl champs this season.

They apparently are doing more with less, LOL.

Also the Big 12 style of football has a stigma against it that their players might not translate well to the NFL.The likes of Mahomes show that's hardly a solid rule, but it's there.

Meh- I don’t know how much that affects them in the draft. Houston has the same offensive system yet they had more players get drafted than everyone but Oklahoma, Texas and OK State.

Quo mentioned the “metrics” rated the BXII the best conference in 2020, but I don’t see it. After all, the conference did go 0-3 against the Sun Belt OOC, including Iowa State who lost to Louisiana by 17 points. I think it was Mark Twain who once said There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”
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(05-03-2021 08:33 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 08:20 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(05-03-2021 07:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  The Big 12 with just 22 picks which even adjusting for conference size was clearly the worst, and only three ahead of the AAC. Especially because they were clearly the second-best football conference on the 2020 field overall, behind only the SEC, and some metrics even had them #1 ahead of the SEC. The Big 12 produced two NY6 bowl champs this season.

They apparently are doing more with less, LOL.

Also the Big 12 style of football has a stigma against it that their players might not translate well to the NFL.The likes of Mahomes show that's hardly a solid rule, but it's there.

Meh- I don’t know how much that affects them in the draft. Houston has the same offensive system yet they had more players get drafted than everyone but Oklahoma, Texas and OK State.

Quo mentioned the “metrics” rated the BXII the best conference in 2020, but I don’t see it.
After all, the conference did go 0-3 against the Sun Belt OOC, including Iowa State who lost to Louisiana by 17 points. I think it was Mark Twain who once said There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”

I agree that the SEC ended up being the best 2020 conference. But the Big 12 was clearly no worse than second-best. They had a great season:

8 - 3 overall vs FBS

5 - 0 in bowl games (2-0 in NY6 games)

2 - 0 vs P5

6 - 3 vs G5

Nobody but the SEC, who went 7-2 vs FBS and won 7 bowls, including 4 NY6 games, can top that.

The B1G, by comparison, was 3-2 overall and 1-1 in NY6 games.
The PAC and ACC won no games vs other P5, 0-8 combined.
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(05-03-2021 08:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I agree that the SEC ended up being the best 2020 conference. But the Big 12 was clearly no worse than second-best. They had a great season:

8 - 3 overall vs FBS

5 - 0 in bowl games (2-0 in NY6 games)

2 - 0 vs P5

6 - 3 vs G5

Nobody but the SEC, who went 7-2 vs FBS and won 7 bowls, including 4 NY6 games, can top that.

The B1G, by comparison, was 3-2 overall and 1-1 in NY6 games.
The PAC and ACC won no games vs other P5, 0-8 combined.

The Pac-12 went 0-2 against other P5 schools, the two bowl losses. This whole season was basically a joke for the Pac-12. Four teams played just four regular season games. Washington won the North division with a 3-1 record, then had to pull out of the Pac-12 Championship game because of a Covid-19 outbreak. Oregon had five players drafted, only one played in 2020. The other four opted out. The Pac-12 had six players picked among the first 45 picks. Only one actually played in 2020. This was a "we got through it season." Not much else can be learned from it, other than no one missed the Pac-12 Network.
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(05-02-2021 09:04 AM)mlb Wrote:  UCF (5), Cincinnati (4), and Houston (3) all had respectable days as well.

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BYU with 5 is also worth noting.

The NFL seems to regard BYU, UCF, Cincy, Houston and Boise State as worthy of middling P5 attention from scouts. A few other programs like San Diego State, Memphis and North Dakota State (FCS) also get regular attention.

Arizona's dreadful showing again should be noted. Their athletic department is in bad shape.
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