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AAC Acceptance Rate and Graduation Rate
This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%
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Interesting.
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RE: AAC Acceptance Rate and Graduation Rate
(04-29-2021 03:12 AM)Alanda Wrote:  This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%

To finish the picture add the entrance requirements and median incoming sat/act and gpa for frosh.

Not pretty
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(04-29-2021 08:03 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 03:12 AM)Alanda Wrote:  This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%

To finish the picture add the entrance requirements and median incoming sat/act and gpa for frosh.

Not pretty

I don't see those numbers as a problem. I see those numbers as offering an opportunity. The graduation rate is lower because the acceptance rate is higher. So? To those kids that make it anyway, this is an opportunity they can't get elsewhere.

That's what Memphis has been for decades - the university that gave opportunities denied by other universities. I'm f'ing proud of that. It is MY school because of that.
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(04-29-2021 08:18 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 08:03 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 03:12 AM)Alanda Wrote:  This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%

To finish the picture add the entrance requirements and median incoming sat/act and gpa for frosh.

Not pretty

I don't see those numbers as a problem. I see those numbers as offering an opportunity. The graduation rate is lower because the acceptance rate is higher. So? To those kids that make it anyway, this is an opportunity they can't get elsewhere.

That's what Memphis has been for decades - the university that gave opportunities denied by other universities. I'm f'ing proud of that. It is MY school because of that.

That's one interpretation. I wont bury the school further offering an opposing interpretation.
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RE: AAC Acceptance Rate and Graduation Rate
(04-29-2021 08:18 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 08:03 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 03:12 AM)Alanda Wrote:  This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%

To finish the picture add the entrance requirements and median incoming sat/act and gpa for frosh.

Not pretty

I don't see those numbers as a problem. I see those numbers as offering an opportunity. The graduation rate is lower because the acceptance rate is higher. So? To those kids that make it anyway, this is an opportunity they can't get elsewhere.

That's what Memphis has been for decades - the university that gave opportunities denied by other universities. I'm f'ing proud of that. It is MY school because of that.

Is that stance above (accepting mediocrity) coming from someone who did/did not graduate?

Giving everyone a chance is called Community College. The less serious students need to go that route while the ones who want to put forth the effort & succeed will garner acceptance to a 4-Year University at the onset. Many need the structure a CC provides and then transition to a 4-Year University. It should be a red flag accepting 84% of applicants and having a 55% graduation rate. Kudos to Dr. Rudd & crew for boosting that from a 43% graduation rate to 55% over the past few years.
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I don't see the acceptance rate as a problem, we are a public state school and have to admit anyone that meets the minimum requirements. As the university continues to increase enrollment, then there could be a discussion about raising those requirements.

The graduation rate is a single number that represents the outcome, but I think the traditional role of this university pulls that number down. The University of Memphis admits students that meet the admission requirements, but are not college ready yet - all of the data out there on percentages of high schoolers that are college ready supports this. Most if not all students need their scholarships to be able to afford college, these scholarships have GPA requirements. If a student is not academically ready or mature enough to handle the freedom, after a couple of years (or sooner), they lose those scholarships. At that point, they either go in debt, drop out, or go part time and work. If they go part time they may not graduate in time to count for these numbers.

Yes the graduation rate needs to increase, and Dr. Rudd has implemented some great services to pull it up, but part of the story behind the numbers is due to who we are and how we serve the community.
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(04-29-2021 08:24 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 08:18 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 08:03 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 03:12 AM)Alanda Wrote:  This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%

To finish the picture add the entrance requirements and median incoming sat/act and gpa for frosh.

Not pretty

I don't see those numbers as a problem. I see those numbers as offering an opportunity. The graduation rate is lower because the acceptance rate is higher. So? To those kids that make it anyway, this is an opportunity they can't get elsewhere.

That's what Memphis has been for decades - the university that gave opportunities denied by other universities. I'm f'ing proud of that. It is MY school because of that.

That's one interpretation. I wont bury the school further offering an opposing interpretation.

The other interpretation, which is pretty obvious, is that as a commuter school with a large focus on continuing education, many students enroll part time and graduate; but not within the allotted time.
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Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.
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(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

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(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

07-coffee3

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.
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(04-29-2021 03:12 AM)Alanda Wrote:  This was mentioned in the Top 5% World Ranking thread so here is a separate thread. I found the numbers for each team in the conference for a peer comparison based on Acceptance Rate (AR) and Graduation Rate (GR). The numbers come from the US Dept of Education's College Scorecard. The left column is AR and the right is GR. They describe GR as:

Quote:Graduation Rate

For some institutions, the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 8 years of entering this school for the first time. If this data is not available, then the graduation rate is the share of students who graduated within 200 percent of the expected time to graduation (e.g., 8 years for 4-year degrees, 4 years for 2-year degrees, 18 months for 9-month certificates). This graduation rate only applies to students studying full-time who started college at this school.

If you search for University of Memphis, the Google page shows the College Scorecard GR data based on six years. I put these in alphabetical order.

Code:
UCF    43%    71%
CIN    73%    64%
ECU    82%    65%
HOU    62%    55%
MEM    84%    48%
Navy    9%    87%
USF    43%    73%
SMU    51%    80%
TEM    59%    72%
TUL    17%    68%
Tulsa  41%    69%
WSU    97%    48%

Sooooo..... thank goodness for Hitachi state?
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(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

07-coffee3

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

Rather than spouting weird psycho-babble and insulting me, the numbers are out there if you care. All you have to do is look at the number of students enrolled and their class status too see why the grad rate is bad.

I think some schools, not just Memphis, have a business model that admits people they know won't finish in high volume while getting govt subsidized money rather than be selective keep them paying until they finish.

I have 2 degrees from Memphis, worked for the univ, taught classes at the univ so I might have some insight. It appears to have gotten worse not better.

But, whatever, I'm though with this. People gonna believe whatever they want. The numbers don't lie. I hope things get better. Really.
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(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

07-coffee3

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

I have no idea where you are getting the bolded. I don't think the students are morons at all. My undergraduate degree is from there, so why would I think it is a **** education? I think the University still has the same number of hard working, intelligent students they've always had. I just think that the newer money allowed the number of people who in the past would not have attended are going, and they are not being as successful at a higher percentage of the student body at large. It's not a shot at the U of M, it's just a fact.

Weird response bro.
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(04-29-2021 01:31 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

07-coffee3

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

Rather than spouting weird psycho-babble and insulting me, the numbers are out there if you care. All you have to do is look at the number of students enrolled and their class status too see why the grad rate is bad.

I think some schools, not just Memphis, have a business model that admits people they know won't finish in high volume while getting govt subsidized money rather than be selective keep them paying until they finish.

I have 2 degrees from Memphis, worked for the univ, taught classes at the univ so I might have some insight. It appears to have gotten worse not better.

But, whatever, I'm though with this. People gonna believe whatever they want. The numbers don't lie. I hope things get better. Really.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Numbers never tell the whole story.
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Is being a commuter school accounted for? Having more part time students who take longer to graduate or students who only ever planned to take a few classes? For all schools there is also the fact that credit requirements for graduation have gone up so a 4 year/8 semester graduation plan is not what it was when these rankings started.
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These numbers definitely only touch the surface. I think one of the main stats the Scorecard provides is "Outcomes 8 Years After Attending" which gives a full breakdown. If you scroll to the Graduation & Retention tab you will find these numbers

What you see there is Memphis has a huge withdrawal rate in comparison to the other schools. Memphis had a 32% withdrawal rate in the group these numbers are based on. WSU is second at 19%. And when combining withdrawals and transfers, Memphis is the only university in the conference where that combination exceeds graduation rate.

They have a 10 school comparison limit so I put Navy and WSU separately.

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RE: AAC Acceptance Rate and Graduation Rate
(04-29-2021 09:00 AM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 08:18 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 08:03 AM)shere khan Wrote:  To finish the picture add the entrance requirements and median incoming sat/act and gpa for frosh.

Not pretty

I don't see those numbers as a problem. I see those numbers as offering an opportunity. The graduation rate is lower because the acceptance rate is higher. So? To those kids that make it anyway, this is an opportunity they can't get elsewhere.

That's what Memphis has been for decades - the university that gave opportunities denied by other universities. I'm f'ing proud of that. It is MY school because of that.

Is that stance above (accepting mediocrity) coming from someone who did/did not graduate?

Giving everyone a chance is called Community College. The less serious students need to go that route while the ones who want to put forth the effort & succeed will garner acceptance to a 4-Year University at the onset. Many need the structure a CC provides and then transition to a 4-Year University. It should be a red flag accepting 84% of applicants and having a 55% graduation rate. Kudos to Dr. Rudd & crew for boosting that from a 43% graduation rate to 55% over the past few years.

Just a small correction. Houston is 55%, Memphis is 48%. I can see how that happened though. I agree with you about needing the structure a CC can give first before going to a 4-year. Especially when looking at the withdrawal numbers UM has. Although it doesn't say how far they were when they withdrew.

(04-29-2021 02:14 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Is being a commuter school accounted for? Having more part time students who take longer to graduate or students who only ever planned to take a few classes? For all schools there is also the fact that credit requirements for graduation have gone up so a 4 year/8 semester graduation plan is not what it was when these rankings started.

No it doesn't account for that. The time frame on this is graduating in eight years from start to finish. Also in the link in the post about you can look at the numbers based on full-time, part-time, and both. All the numbers I've done so far are based on both.
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RE: AAC Acceptance Rate and Graduation Rate
(04-29-2021 03:36 PM)Alanda Wrote:  These numbers definitely only touch the surface. I think one of the main stats the Scorecard provides is "Outcomes 8 Years After Attending" which gives a full breakdown. If you scroll to the Graduation & Retention tab you will find these numbers

What you see there is Memphis has a huge withdrawal rate in comparison to the other schools. Memphis had a 32% withdrawal rate in the group these numbers are based on. WSU is second at 19%. And when combining withdrawals and transfers, Memphis is the only university in the conference where that combination exceeds graduation rate.

They have a 10 school comparison limit so I put Navy and WSU separately.

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I wouldn't keep pulling this thread. People ain't gonna be happy here.
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RE: AAC Acceptance Rate and Graduation Rate
(04-29-2021 04:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(04-29-2021 03:36 PM)Alanda Wrote:  These numbers definitely only touch the surface. I think one of the main stats the Scorecard provides is "Outcomes 8 Years After Attending" which gives a full breakdown. If you scroll to the Graduation & Retention tab you will find these numbers

What you see there is Memphis has a huge withdrawal rate in comparison to the other schools. Memphis had a 32% withdrawal rate in the group these numbers are based on. WSU is second at 19%. And when combining withdrawals and transfers, Memphis is the only university in the conference where that combination exceeds graduation rate.

They have a 10 school comparison limit so I put Navy and WSU separately.

10 Full Members

Navy

WSU

I wouldn't keep pulling this thread. People ain't gonna be happy here.

Haha. Well I felt you brought up a fair point that should be looked at further considering the aspiration(s) of the school. It's interesting that if that withdrawal rate were cut in half and applied to graduation, UM would be much closer to the others. I wouldn't have expected that to be so big if not for looking at this data.
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