Duh.. Memphis has been an access school for most of its history, its just now transitioning to becoming a "selective" institution.

Those are pretty standard numbers for an access school. Want to see bad, go look at like UAPB or UTSA

All u scholars need to go to utk

(04-29-2021 01:37 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

I have no idea where you are getting the bolded. I don't think the students are morons at all. My undergraduate degree is from there, so why would I think it is a **** education? I think the University still has the same number of hard working, intelligent students they've always had. I just think that the newer money allowed the number of people who in the past would not have attended are going, and they are not being as successful at a higher percentage of the student body at large. It's not a shot at the U of M, it's just a fact.

Weird response bro.

You made the dumb statement about the library. No libraries are like that anywhere.

(04-30-2021 12:06 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 01:37 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 10:37 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Over the years, the state scholarship money has allowed a huge injection of people to enroll who honestly have no business going to college. Take s stroll through the library- it's essentially become a hangout place for people who want to put off getting a job for a couple of years.

Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

I have no idea where you are getting the bolded. I don't think the students are morons at all. My undergraduate degree is from there, so why would I think it is a **** education? I think the University still has the same number of hard working, intelligent students they've always had. I just think that the newer money allowed the number of people who in the past would not have attended are going, and they are not being as successful at a higher percentage of the student body at large. It's not a shot at the U of M, it's just a fact.

Weird response bro.

You made the dumb statement about the library. No libraries are like that anywhere.

Every couple of years or so I'm asked to speak at the Business school. I use the library to prepare an hour or so before the talk. It's a zoo. Swing by there tomorrow around noon and see for yourself.

Not for nothing. but unfortunately a TON of public libraries are like that now. Before we moved (escaped) the East Bay, the libraries in SF were terrifying. They are basically homeless shelters/mental health wards, with people laying on tables and the floor.

There is nothing remotely comparable between McWherter and your typical public library.

Fake ass news.

(04-30-2021 12:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-30-2021 12:06 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 01:37 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

I have no idea where you are getting the bolded. I don't think the students are morons at all. My undergraduate degree is from there, so why would I think it is a **** education? I think the University still has the same number of hard working, intelligent students they've always had. I just think that the newer money allowed the number of people who in the past would not have attended are going, and they are not being as successful at a higher percentage of the student body at large. It's not a shot at the U of M, it's just a fact.

Weird response bro.

You made the dumb statement about the library. No libraries are like that anywhere.

Every couple of years or so I'm asked to speak at the Business school. I use the library to prepare an hour or so before the talk. It's a zoo. Swing by there tomorrow around noon and see for yourself.

Not for nothing. but unfortunately a TON of public libraries are like that now. Before we moved (escaped) the East Bay, the libraries in SF were terrifying. They are basically homeless shelters/mental health wards, with people laying on tables and the floor.

People talking and laughing loudly, having showers, eating, and sleeping on tables at McWherter Library? Seriously?

(04-30-2021 12:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-30-2021 12:06 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 01:37 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 12:31 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 11:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Prepare to be called a heretic. This. Is the answer. Admit anyone, take money for a couple years and subsidize waste

:coffee3:

You know this because you hang out at the library? That is hilarious. Posters in this forum explained it very clearly mostly when the Big 12 talk was going on. Rudd made a huge push in general and in this particular instance with Big 12 administrators, explaining why the school is what it is.

Rudd's feeling was that we could easily make entrance requirements more stringent which would lead to higher graduation rates, but that wasn't the school's mission. Instead, Rudd recognized that we were in a position to give access to more students, who wouldn't have it otherwise. Does this mean that some students get in that might not at other schools? It does. It also means that many students who wouldn't have the opportunity for a university education, now have a university degree that has served them well. Does it mean the idiotic notion that none of the students take classes seriously, and are paying good money just to avoid working for a couple of years? Of course not.

That is undoubtedly one of the reasons, aside from the fact that there are constant improvements being made in all phases, why our ranking has kept improving incrementally over the last 10 years. Rudd was able to get that across very coherently.

Obviously, it makes you feel better about yourself, and you get a more accurate feel for your self identity to think that all of the students are morons that are getting a **** education. Just keep going with that.

I have no idea where you are getting the bolded. I don't think the students are morons at all. My undergraduate degree is from there, so why would I think it is a **** education? I think the University still has the same number of hard working, intelligent students they've always had. I just think that the newer money allowed the number of people who in the past would not have attended are going, and they are not being as successful at a higher percentage of the student body at large. It's not a shot at the U of M, it's just a fact.

Weird response bro.

You made the dumb statement about the library. No libraries are like that anywhere.

Every couple of years or so I'm asked to speak at the Business school. I use the library to prepare an hour or so before the talk. It's a zoo. Swing by there tomorrow around noon and see for yourself.

Not for nothing. but unfortunately a TON of public libraries are like that now. Before we moved (escaped) the East Bay, the libraries in SF were terrifying. They are basically homeless shelters/mental health wards, with people laying on tables and the floor.

Libraries in big cities have been intentionally turned into technology service, job research, charging centers, etc. to serve the low income, elderly and homeless communities for over a decade now. It was part of a strategy to keep them utilized as the utilization for traditional library services fell off a cliff. In some areas librarians even get some light social work type training

It is sad a top 5% worldwide ranking has made some angry- pathetic is the correct word

(04-30-2021 02:09 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  There is nothing remotely comparable between McWherter and your typical public library.

Fake ass news.

Where did you see me compare McWherter to a typical public library?

You really are an ignorant mother ******.

I've been inside McWherter hundreds of times and it never once resembled a zoo like a typical public library can be.

(05-01-2021 01:23 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I've been inside McWherter hundreds of times and it never once resembled a zoo like a typical public library can be.

I think you just made his point for him.

What's the matter?

Struck a nerve earlier with what I said about Auburn's library's coloring book section?

(04-30-2021 09:58 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-30-2021 02:09 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  There is nothing remotely comparable between McWherter and your typical public library.

Fake ass news.

Where did you see me compare McWherter to a typical public library?

You really are an ignorant mother ******.

That’s what it looked like to me, so I guess I’m an ignorant mother ****** too.

“I'm asked to speak at the Business school. I use the library to prepare an hour or so before the talk. It's a zoo……….unfortunately a TON of public libraries are like that now.”

(05-01-2021 07:50 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  What's the matter?

Struck a nerve earlier with what I said about Auburn's library's coloring book section?

Not even on your best day boy.

Keep trying though.

(05-01-2021 09:00 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-01-2021 07:50 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  What's the matter?

Struck a nerve earlier with what I said about Auburn's library's coloring book section?

Not even on your best day boy.

Keep trying though.

You already have low self esteem.

(05-01-2021 01:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-01-2021 09:00 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-01-2021 07:50 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  What's the matter?

Struck a nerve earlier with what I said about Auburn's library's coloring book section?

Not even on your best day boy.

Keep trying though.

You already have low self esteem.

sure. That #5 in the universe rating helped me though

Bwahahaha

Gtfoh