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(04-28-2021 01:04 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  
(04-28-2021 11:52 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Biden's America.

For sure. Biden's* America: Ginning up investigation against political enemies without merit. All the while killing investigations into the criminal conduct of his family members.

And the useful idiots eat it up.
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Is Rudy's son doing a Will Ferrell impersonation?
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So, when Rudy told the Feds "do you want these two hard drives, also?" when referring to Hunter's hard drive, why didn't they take them? I mean, did they know for sure, that is what was on those hard drives? Why would they believe Rudy? I listened to an attorney that was talking to Rudy before and after it happened and he said the Feds had a warrant for exactly 8 devices. How did they know he had 8 devices?
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(04-29-2021 07:53 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Is Rudy's son doing a Will Ferrell impersonation?

Wrong cast member - it was the late, great Chris Farley who was adorable, little scene-stealing Andrew.
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(04-29-2021 07:53 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Is Rudy's son doing a Will Ferrell impersonation?

Not as good as the Gestapo impression the eff b eye is doing.
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Agreed. Odd they took his word for it. Not only are they corrupt and political, but inept at it.
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Quote:The FBI raid this week of former President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani violated the "spirit and the letter of the Constitution," because it permitted prosecutors to read privileged information without permission, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax TV.

"This was just a misuse of the search and seizure power," Dershowitz told "Saturday Report." "Initially it was turned down; now it was approved, both by a judge and by the attorney general of the United States, so it wasn't lawless action, but I believe that they acted inconsistently with both the spirit and the letter of the Constitution and that there should be remedies for it.

"It just shouldn't be done this way," Dershowitz added to host Carl Higbie. "It should be done through subpoena, and that is the constitutional route to getting evidence."

The only reason to raid Giuliani's privileged electronics is out of fear he would destroy evidence, but Dershowitz added that burden of proof falls short in this case.

"To conduct a search warrant is to imply that Rudy Giuliani and the other lawyers who are subject to the search warrant would destroy evidence," Dershowitz said. "Now, Giuliani knew they were after the cell phones and the computers for months and months and months, and he didn't destroy anything, so what's the basis for the search warrant rather than the subpoena?

"The 4th Amendment demands a subpoena in these situations, not a search warrant. What they did in this case was unconstitutional."

Reading the privileged information is damaging enough to Giuliani or any of his clients, because of "tainting" prosecutors who tend to privately share information with each other.

"What the government does is they seize it all, and then they give it to some prosecutors: They call them the taint team," Dershowitz said. "Those prosecutors read all the privileged information and they decide what to turn over to the prosecution team.

Dershowitz added, the prosecutors then say,"'Well, all right, this is privileged, so we won't use it in a trial,' but the government has already read it. That's illegal. The 4th Amendment doesn't protect you only against criminal prosecution, it protects your privacy, and so in situations like this, they should always use a subpoena, not a search warrant."

Dershowitz acknowledged to Higbie he has advised Giuliani's lawyers in this case pro bono.

"I've been consulting with Rudy Giuliani's lawyers; they asked me for my advice on this, and pro bono, I've given them general advice as I would to a Democrat who called me and asked me about constitutional violations," Dershowitz said.

"They ought to move to: A. Get the material back, and have the government subjected to subpoena analysis; B. They ought to reject the idea of a taint team and require that if anybody goes over this, it ought to be a judge, magistrate, or at least a master outside the prosecutor's office appointed by the court.

"But the idea of having one group prosecutors tell the other group prosecutors whether they can see it or not is having the fox guard the chicken coop, and that's just not the right way under the Constitution."

And, Dershowitz lamented, the basis for the investigation being a lack of registering as a foreign agent is weak on legal grounds, amounting to a political witch hunt of Trump's personal attorney.

"They're looking; they're looking hard," Dershowitz said. "I don't think they have anything on this registration because, really, Giuliani was representing an American; he was representing the president. He was doing investigations in the Ukraine to see if it can help his president.

"That doesn't generally require any kind of registration, but I have to tell you the idea of a search warrant for a violation of a registration, that makes no sense. That's disproportional."

There is a lack of "compelling evidence" of potential obstruction of justice by a former federal prosecutor like Giuliani, Dershowitz said.

"What you do in a situation like that is you have a subpoena, or you produce very compelling evidence – which they couldn't in this case – very compelling evidence that the former United States attorney for the Southern District of New York was going to engage in obstruction of justice by destroying evidence," Dershowitz said.

"That's just not going to happen. He volunteered to turn over evidence, not only involving himself but involving other people."

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(05-01-2021 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
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Agreed. Odd they took his word for it. Not only are they corrupt and political, but inept at it.

Guiliani stated, and he would know, that it was ILLEGAL for the feds NOT to take the biden material.

I just think its funny that the feds show up to Guilianis house, serve a warrant and take his phones, GUiliani says "wait, here's hunter Bidens laptop" and the feds were like "aw hell no, we dont want that."
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(05-01-2021 10:49 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
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Agreed. Odd they took his word for it. Not only are they corrupt and political, but inept at it.

Not inept. It was all for show. No need to carry anymore out than was needed. After all, those things are heavy.....
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So the OP blew up in less than 4 days.

THE NEW YORK TIMES Published 7 hours ago
Mainstream outlets face deluge of criticism for retracted Giuliani story, use of anonymous sources
Growing calls for outlets to 'burn' their anonymous sources

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream...nformation
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Business as usual. On to the next big lie.
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Looks like I was right....a nothingburger.
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(05-04-2021 01:44 AM)TripleA Wrote:  So the OP blew up in less than 4 days.

THE NEW YORK TIMES Published 7 hours ago
Mainstream outlets face deluge of criticism for retracted Giuliani story, use of anonymous sources
Growing calls for outlets to 'burn' their anonymous sources

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream...nformation

Ummm....dude...the OP was about the raid that happened at his NY office.

A FACT Rudy confirms here:



And here:
Quote:Instead, the Justice Department decided it was a higher priority to serve (at dawn) search warrants for electronics at the home and law office of former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

The search warrants involve only one indication of an alleged incident of failure to register as a foreign agent.
https://rudygiulianics.com/2021/04/28/st...l-28-2021/

Try to keep up buttercup. 01-wingedeagle
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(05-04-2021 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Looks like I was right....a nothingburger.

The FBI raided his office and took devices. The warrant is about him not properly registering as a foreign agent.

The retraction was only about him not actually being warned about Russia.

Two entirely different things.

So no, this has not been shown to be a nothingburger, at least not yet. Although violations of FARA usually result in a slap on the wrist from what I've read.
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(05-04-2021 06:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Looks like I was right....a nothingburger.

The FBI raided his office and took devices. The warrant is about him not properly registering as a foreign agent.

The retraction was only about him not actually being warned about Russia.

Two entirely different things.

So no, this has not been shown to be a nothingburger, at least not yet. Although violations of FARA usually result in a slap on the wrist from what I've read.

Does it ever get tiring trying constantly to legitimize BS ???
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(05-04-2021 06:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 06:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Looks like I was right....a nothingburger.

The FBI raided his office and took devices. The warrant is about him not properly registering as a foreign agent.

The retraction was only about him not actually being warned about Russia.

Two entirely different things.

So no, this has not been shown to be a nothingburger, at least not yet. Although violations of FARA usually result in a slap on the wrist from what I've read.

Does it ever get tiring trying constantly to legitimize BS ???

WITAF are you babbling about? The FBI raided his office on a warrant for possible violations of FARA. These are all facts. Nobody is legitimizing crap. Go look up how hard and unusual it is to get a federal judge to sign off on a warrant for an attorney...especially one who represented a former president.

If he violated FARA, he'll likely be charged. And as I said, it's not something that usually results in any significant punishment.

If he didn't, he'll be cleared.

Why is this so hard a concept to understand?
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(05-04-2021 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 06:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 06:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Looks like I was right....a nothingburger.

The FBI raided his office and took devices. The warrant is about him not properly registering as a foreign agent.

The retraction was only about him not actually being warned about Russia.

Two entirely different things.

So no, this has not been shown to be a nothingburger, at least not yet. Although violations of FARA usually result in a slap on the wrist from what I've read.

Does it ever get tiring trying constantly to legitimize BS ???

WITAF are you babbling about? The FBI raided his office on a warrant for possible violations of FARA. These are all facts. Nobody is legitimizing crap. Go look up how hard and unusual it is to get a federal judge to sign off on a warrant for an attorney...especially one who represented a former president.

If he violated FARA, he'll likely be charged. And as I said, it's not something that usually results in any significant punishment.

If he didn't, he'll be cleared.

Why is this so hard a concept to understand?

Maybe because they haven’t raided Hunter Biden’s home and office for the same trumped up BS.
You have firmly entrenched yourself as the enemy of freedom and America.
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(05-04-2021 06:59 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 06:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 06:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 06:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-04-2021 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Looks like I was right....a nothingburger.

The FBI raided his office and took devices. The warrant is about him not properly registering as a foreign agent.

The retraction was only about him not actually being warned about Russia.

Two entirely different things.

So no, this has not been shown to be a nothingburger, at least not yet. Although violations of FARA usually result in a slap on the wrist from what I've read.

Does it ever get tiring trying constantly to legitimize BS ???

WITAF are you babbling about? The FBI raided his office on a warrant for possible violations of FARA. These are all facts. Nobody is legitimizing crap. Go look up how hard and unusual it is to get a federal judge to sign off on a warrant for an attorney...especially one who represented a former president.

If he violated FARA, he'll likely be charged. And as I said, it's not something that usually results in any significant punishment.

If he didn't, he'll be cleared.

Why is this so hard a concept to understand?

Maybe because they haven’t raided Hunter Biden’s home and office for the same trumped up BS.
You have firmly entrenched yourself as the enemy of freedom and America.

This is so ignorant I can't even believe I'm wasting time telling you as much.
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