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RE: The NoDak Memorial College Hockey Start-Up Rumors Thread
The are schools out west that sponsors club hockey which they could pull the trigger to start a program.

Club Hockey By State:
Arizona:
Arizona
Grand Canyon
Northern Arizona

California:
CSU-Bakersfield
Fullerton State
Long Beach State
Northridge State
Loyola Marymount
San Diego State
San Jose State
Santa Clara
Stanford
California
UC-Irvine
UCLA
UC-San Diego
UC-Santa Barbara
San Diego
USC

Colorado:
Colorado State
Colorado
Metro State
Denver
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Colorado Mines
Fort Lewis
Air Force
Colo.-Colorado Springs
Western Colorado

Idaho:
Boise State

Montana:
Montana State

New Mexico:
New Mexico

Oregon:
Oregon

Utah:
Utah
Utah State
Utah Valley
BYU

Washington:
Eastern Washington
Gonzaga
Washington
Washington State
Western Washington

Central Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, SMU, Texas Tech, UTEP, TCU, Texas A&M, Texas State,Crieghton,Dallas Baptist, Arkansas, Nebraska and North Texas also have club teams.

There are plenty of schools out west could pull the trigger to turn their club team to varsity.
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RE: The NoDak Memorial College Hockey Start-Up Rumors Thread
(05-06-2021 11:37 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The are schools out west that sponsors club hockey which they could pull the trigger to start a program.

Club Hockey By State:
Arizona:
Arizona
Grand Canyon
Northern Arizona

California:
CSU-Bakersfield
Fullerton State
Long Beach State
Northridge State
Loyola Marymount
San Diego State
San Jose State
Santa Clara
Stanford
California
UC-Irvine
UCLA
UC-San Diego
UC-Santa Barbara
San Diego
USC

Colorado:
Colorado State
Colorado
Metro State
Denver
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Colorado Mines
Fort Lewis
Air Force
Colo.-Colorado Springs
Western Colorado

Idaho:
Boise State

Montana:
Montana State

New Mexico:
New Mexico

Oregon:
Oregon

Utah:
Utah
Utah State
Utah Valley
BYU

Washington:
Eastern Washington
Gonzaga
Washington
Washington State
Western Washington

Central Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, SMU, Texas Tech, UTEP, TCU, Texas A&M, Texas State,Crieghton,Dallas Baptist, Arkansas, Nebraska and North Texas also have club teams.

There are plenty of schools out west could pull the trigger to turn their club team to varsity.

Didn't read too many of them on this list...but Denver has been sponsoring Division I hockey since the 40s and has 8 national championships (most recently 2017).


Would be nice for the other Colorado schools to get in there though and give them some local competition. Though they are already a member of one of the top 2 conferences in college hockey and get plenty of competition from there.
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RE: The NoDak Memorial College Hockey Start-Up Rumors Thread
(05-06-2021 12:17 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 11:37 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The are schools out west that sponsors club hockey which they could pull the trigger to start a program.

Colorado:
Colorado State
Colorado
Metro State
Denver
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Colorado Mines
Fort Lewis
Air Force
Colo.-Colorado Springs
Western Colorado

There are plenty of schools out west could pull the trigger to turn their club team to varsity.

Didn't read too many of them on this list...but Denver has been sponsoring Division I hockey since the 40s and has 8 national championships (most recently 2017).


Would be nice for the other Colorado schools to get in there though and give them some local competition. Though they are already a member of one of the top 2 conferences in college hockey and get plenty of competition from there.

Air Force also has a D1 team since 1968-69. They have 7 Atlantic Hockey Tournament titles and 7 NCAA Tournament appearances, all since 2006–07.
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RE: The NoDak Memorial College Hockey Start-Up Rumors Thread
(05-06-2021 12:34 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 12:17 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 11:37 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The are schools out west that sponsors club hockey which they could pull the trigger to start a program.

Colorado:
Colorado State
Colorado
Metro State
Denver
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Colorado Mines
Fort Lewis
Air Force
Colo.-Colorado Springs
Western Colorado

There are plenty of schools out west could pull the trigger to turn their club team to varsity.

Didn't read too many of them on this list...but Denver has been sponsoring Division I hockey since the 40s and has 8 national championships (most recently 2017).


Would be nice for the other Colorado schools to get in there though and give them some local competition. Though they are already a member of one of the top 2 conferences in college hockey and get plenty of competition from there.

Air Force also has a D1 team since 1968-69. They have 7 Atlantic Hockey Tournament titles and 7 NCAA Tournament appearances, all since 2006–07.

I knew there'd be at least one other on that list. Thanks!
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It does seem odd that UC-Boulder and Colorado St don’t sponsor ice hockey. I think the demographics are there—they just need the start up money.
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(05-06-2021 01:05 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It does seem odd that UC-Boulder and Colorado St don’t sponsor ice hockey. I think the demographics are there—they just need the start up money.

That's the answer to every single question about "Why doesn't School X have hockey?" Money. The annual expenditure is seven figures, bare minimum, unless you are Division I in name only like LIU. Most schools want to have an endowment put together to guarantee the operating expenses will be covered for a period of time before they announce a team.
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(05-06-2021 12:54 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 12:34 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 12:17 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 11:37 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The are schools out west that sponsors club hockey which they could pull the trigger to start a program.

Colorado:
Colorado State
Colorado
Metro State
Denver
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Colorado Mines
Fort Lewis
Air Force
Colo.-Colorado Springs
Western Colorado

There are plenty of schools out west could pull the trigger to turn their club team to varsity.

Didn't read too many of them on this list...but Denver has been sponsoring Division I hockey since the 40s and has 8 national championships (most recently 2017).


Would be nice for the other Colorado schools to get in there though and give them some local competition. Though they are already a member of one of the top 2 conferences in college hockey and get plenty of competition from there.

Air Force also has a D1 team since 1968-69. They have 7 Atlantic Hockey Tournament titles and 7 NCAA Tournament appearances, all since 2006–07.

I knew there'd be at least one other on that list. Thanks!

He's done similar lists on this topic before. One included Minnesota-Duluth just weeks after UMD lost the NCAA title game to Denver. https://csnbbs.com/post-14301462.html#pid14301462

David ignores the high costs of taking those club teams to varsity level. Most of the funding of these teams is raised by the players for rink rental, travel, and equipment. Some schools might hire a coach but coaching the team may not be his primary duties. Making the team varsity also means adding women's sport(s) basically doubling the costs due to Title 9. David, you can't just wave a magic wand to add a sport.
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(05-06-2021 02:51 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 12:54 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 12:34 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 12:17 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(05-06-2021 11:37 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  The are schools out west that sponsors club hockey which they could pull the trigger to start a program.

Colorado:
Colorado State
Colorado
Metro State
Denver
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mesa
Colorado Mines
Fort Lewis
Air Force
Colo.-Colorado Springs
Western Colorado

There are plenty of schools out west could pull the trigger to turn their club team to varsity.

Didn't read too many of them on this list...but Denver has been sponsoring Division I hockey since the 40s and has 8 national championships (most recently 2017).


Would be nice for the other Colorado schools to get in there though and give them some local competition. Though they are already a member of one of the top 2 conferences in college hockey and get plenty of competition from there.

Air Force also has a D1 team since 1968-69. They have 7 Atlantic Hockey Tournament titles and 7 NCAA Tournament appearances, all since 2006–07.

I knew there'd be at least one other on that list. Thanks!

He's done similar lists on this topic before. One included Minnesota-Duluth just weeks after UMD lost the NCAA title game to Denver. https://csnbbs.com/post-14301462.html#pid14301462

David ignores the high costs of taking those club teams to varsity level. Most of the funding of these teams is raised by the players for rink rental, travel, and equipment. Some schools might hire a coach but coaching the team may not be his primary duties. Making the team varsity also means adding women's sport(s) basically doubling the costs due to Title 9. David, you can't just wave a magic wand to add a sport.

Also, Colorado plays D1 hockey. The University of Colorado doesn't.
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