(04-24-2021 12:16 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  My message in posting the video was to repeat Chandler's message so that we all could hear it.

Errbody's got a message these days.

Chandler's message is....be positive. be ready. stay ready. never know when you are called on to help the team.

#message

That's really beautiful.

(04-24-2021 12:20 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:49 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:01 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 07:54 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 07:07 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Yet hasn't played a minute of college basketball. Hard to believe.

Chandler has played two years of college basketball.

So he's the one that couldn't hardly get on the court at Oregon for 2 years but he's already a better passer than Williams? I get them confused but I struggle to believe he's better than Williams at passing. Williams might be our best pick and roll passer.

I don't think so either. Chandler had 22 assists in 28 games last year while Williams had 72 assists in 21 games. I know numbers don't always tell everything but the disparity is huge.

Not advocating that either is better, however two different offensive philosophies will render totally different results.......Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that Pretty obvious what our team was lacking when Deandre was off the floor....Now with Chandler that momentum may continue #Depth

Quote:Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that

That makes perfect sense. DW had 72 assists in 21 games, Chandler had 63 in 59 games. DW had 33 three point attempts in 21 games, Chandler had 15 in 59 games. DW had 245 points in 21 games, Chandler had 261 points in 59 games. Chandler almost never has the ball in his hands. Now that our cough...cough..."real" point guards are no longer with the team, turn the keys over to Chandler.

They are practically twins.

(04-24-2021 01:11 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 12:16 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  My message in posting the video was to repeat Chandler's message so that we all could hear it.

Errbody's got a message these days.

Chandler's message is....be positive. be ready. stay ready. never know when you are called on to help the team.

#message

That's really beautiful.

ya just nevah know
someday he might be a haiku master

(04-24-2021 02:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 01:11 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 12:16 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  My message in posting the video was to repeat Chandler's message so that we all could hear it.

Errbody's got a message these days.

Chandler's message is....be positive. be ready. stay ready. never know when you are called on to help the team.

#message

That's really beautiful.

ya just nevah know
someday he might be a haiku master

be positive doe
be ready never know when you
are called on to help

(04-23-2021 03:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-23-2021 03:07 PM)Hoots Wrote:  I gained a new measure of respect for KJ in the article Mark Giannotto wrote. I thought he came across as having matured a lot, very honest and humble. And a rooter of Penny and the Tigers. It was a pleasure to read that. I never thought we'd see the day where another pair of Lawson's would stripe up, but it's cool if everyone is on the same page and fighting for the same thing. Pretty refreshing.

same thing I felt come through. KJ has matured more in a short span of time than many 'adults' probably ever will. lol

I agree totally. I feel bad that I ever thought badly about the Lawsons. KJ is a real man and it pains me that he and his family ended up being wronged by Tubby and that Tom Bowen did not force Tubby to honor his word. Seems like the Lawson’s really love the city and the university. Best wishes and happy times to all of them! Apologies from me for judging them wrongly. I certainly respect their journey now.

It's finally official. Don't know what took so long.

https://gotigersgo.com/news/2021/5/10/me...awson.aspx

(05-10-2021 10:05 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  It's finally official. Don't know what took so long.

https://gotigersgo.com/news/2021/5/10/me...awson.aspx

You know how those pesky contract negotiations are....

(04-24-2021 01:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 12:20 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:49 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:01 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 07:54 AM)Irse Wrote:  Chandler has played two years of college basketball.

So he's the one that couldn't hardly get on the court at Oregon for 2 years but he's already a better passer than Williams? I get them confused but I struggle to believe he's better than Williams at passing. Williams might be our best pick and roll passer.

I don't think so either. Chandler had 22 assists in 28 games last year while Williams had 72 assists in 21 games. I know numbers don't always tell everything but the disparity is huge.

Not advocating that either is better, however two different offensive philosophies will render totally different results.......Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that Pretty obvious what our team was lacking when Deandre was off the floor....Now with Chandler that momentum may continue #Depth

Quote:Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that

That makes perfect sense. DW had 72 assists in 21 games, Chandler had 63 in 59 games. DW had 33 three point attempts in 21 games, Chandler had 15 in 59 games. DW had 245 points in 21 games, Chandler had 261 points in 59 games. Chandler almost never has the ball in his hands. Now that our cough...cough..."real" point guards are no longer with the team, turn the keys over to Chandler.

They are practically twins.

Chandler is like a 6'-8" Dane Bradshaw. He will do a lot of things that will help you win, but won't always show up in a box score.

he also has a 7'6" wing span

(05-10-2021 12:40 PM)micman Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 01:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 12:20 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:49 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:01 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  So he's the one that couldn't hardly get on the court at Oregon for 2 years but he's already a better passer than Williams? I get them confused but I struggle to believe he's better than Williams at passing. Williams might be our best pick and roll passer.

I don't think so either. Chandler had 22 assists in 28 games last year while Williams had 72 assists in 21 games. I know numbers don't always tell everything but the disparity is huge.

Not advocating that either is better, however two different offensive philosophies will render totally different results.......Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that Pretty obvious what our team was lacking when Deandre was off the floor....Now with Chandler that momentum may continue #Depth

Quote:Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that

That makes perfect sense. DW had 72 assists in 21 games, Chandler had 63 in 59 games. DW had 33 three point attempts in 21 games, Chandler had 15 in 59 games. DW had 245 points in 21 games, Chandler had 261 points in 59 games. Chandler almost never has the ball in his hands. Now that our cough...cough..."real" point guards are no longer with the team, turn the keys over to Chandler.

They are practically twins.

Chandler is like a 6'-8" Dane Bradshaw. He will do a lot of things that will help you win, but won't always show up in a box score.

One of the things he didn't do, nor will Chandler, is be a starting D1 point guard, or be a point guard ever. Williams was great at running the offense and DJ became quite good as well. Chandler doesn't have that skill set yet and it isn't reasonable to expect that he will. He will hopefully be able to defend 3 positions and play very good defense overall.

(05-10-2021 02:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 12:40 PM)micman Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 01:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 12:20 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 10:49 AM)Irse Wrote:  I don't think so either. Chandler had 22 assists in 28 games last year while Williams had 72 assists in 21 games. I know numbers don't always tell everything but the disparity is huge.

Not advocating that either is better, however two different offensive philosophies will render totally different results.......Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that Pretty obvious what our team was lacking when Deandre was off the floor....Now with Chandler that momentum may continue #Depth

Quote:Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that

That makes perfect sense. DW had 72 assists in 21 games, Chandler had 63 in 59 games. DW had 33 three point attempts in 21 games, Chandler had 15 in 59 games. DW had 245 points in 21 games, Chandler had 261 points in 59 games. Chandler almost never has the ball in his hands. Now that our cough...cough..."real" point guards are no longer with the team, turn the keys over to Chandler.

They are practically twins.

Chandler is like a 6'-8" Dane Bradshaw. He will do a lot of things that will help you win, but won't always show up in a box score.

One of the things he didn't do, nor will Chandler, is be a starting D1 point guard, or be a point guard ever. Williams was great at running the offense and DJ became quite good as well. Chandler doesn't have that skill set yet and it isn't reasonable to expect that he will. He will hopefully be able to defend 3 positions and play very good defense overall.

Following along with my Dane Bradshaw comparison, not a fan of UT players, just think he is the most familiar comparison I can come up with; Dane played limited minutes at UT his freshman and sophomore years as a back up point guard. He did not play meaningful minutes until his junior season, when Pearl played him at the 4.

Likewise, I don't know who thinks that Chandler will play point guard (the highlights I saw of Timberlake vs. UNC last year looked like he played a good bit at the point); I expect Chandler to play only the 4 and 5 positions and almost exclusively at the 5, once Minott establishes himself firmly as the backup to Williams.

(05-10-2021 02:24 PM)micman Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 02:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 12:40 PM)micman Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 01:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 12:20 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  Not advocating that either is better, however two different offensive philosophies will render totally different results.......Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that Pretty obvious what our team was lacking when Deandre was off the floor....Now with Chandler that momentum may continue #Depth

Quote:Maybe Penny sees that Chandler can be of the same mold/type player as Deandre and wants to build off of that

That makes perfect sense. DW had 72 assists in 21 games, Chandler had 63 in 59 games. DW had 33 three point attempts in 21 games, Chandler had 15 in 59 games. DW had 245 points in 21 games, Chandler had 261 points in 59 games. Chandler almost never has the ball in his hands. Now that our cough...cough..."real" point guards are no longer with the team, turn the keys over to Chandler.

They are practically twins.

Chandler is like a 6'-8" Dane Bradshaw. He will do a lot of things that will help you win, but won't always show up in a box score.

One of the things he didn't do, nor will Chandler, is be a starting D1 point guard, or be a point guard ever. Williams was great at running the offense and DJ became quite good as well. Chandler doesn't have that skill set yet and it isn't reasonable to expect that he will. He will hopefully be able to defend 3 positions and play very good defense overall.

Following along with my Dane Bradshaw comparison, not a fan of UT players, just think he is the most familiar comparison I can come up with; Dane played limited minutes at UT his freshman and sophomore years as a back up point guard. He did not play meaningful minutes until his junior season, when Pearl played him at the 4.

Likewise, I don't know who thinks that Chandler will play point guard (the highlights I saw of Timberlake vs. UNC last year looked like he played a good bit at the point); I expect Chandler to play only the 4 and 5 positions and almost exclusively at the 5, once Minott establishes himself firmly as the backup to Williams.

I don't see Chandler at the 5 for more than 5 or so minutes per game, but who knows? He could possibly fill in for DJ, but I think that Timberlake is a much better fit. It all depends on Dandridge and Sam. If Dandridge and Sam can duplicate what Cisse and Dandridge did last year while shooting 65% from the field, that in itself will make us a better team on both ends of the floor.

I see Timberlake as a below average ball handler for a point guard, a good ball handler as a two guard, a great ball handler as a small forward, and off the charts as a 4. He's going to have a tough time getting his shot at the 4 though.

If Chandler can duplicate what Bradshaw did his last two seasons, he will be a real asset.