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(04-15-2021 10:50 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:42 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  All things considered.. would we rather have Nolley or Cisse back, if we had to choose?

Nolley. He is a high level scorer and we have struggled to score often under Penny.

Nolley. Consistent scorer.

But getting Cisse back would be a big deal.
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(04-15-2021 01:28 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:50 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:42 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  All things considered.. would we rather have Nolley or Cisse back, if we had to choose?

Nolley. He is a high level scorer and we have struggled to score often under Penny.

Nolley. Consistent scorer.

But getting Cisse back would be a big deal.

Nolley and it’s not even close. And that’s not a knock on Cisse.
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(04-15-2021 10:42 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  All things considered.. would we rather have Nolley or Cisse back, if we had to choose?

DJ...

But Seriously it depends on what the other guys bring...

Nolley is a smooth shooter but he definitely needs help to score.

Cisse is a elite defensive player\rebounder but lacks offense...Looked for a big jump next year offensively.

Is the drop from Nolley to Minott, Camden or Davion greater than the drop from Cisse to Sam.

I'm not super high on Nolley though...He is a solid player
He scored 2-3 more points than everyone else...But he also shot 29% more shots than they did as well.
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RE: DeAndre Williams is returning
(04-15-2021 01:11 PM)yakko Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 11:08 AM)Eagle4Christ Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 07:39 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 04:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Best all-round player on the team and a winner. He and Lomax will be the leaders of next year's squad and they will be focused and mature. I'm thrilled.

Huge news for Tiger hoops.

Agree

They are not the best players but they will be the leaders, likely along with Lester, and they are damn good players

Lomax, Williams, Quiones, Nolley will keep the cultural expectations of the program steady, making it easier for new faces to learn how to fit in. Such great news.

when you look at the 2008 team, sure Rose was the piece that had been missing, but Antonio Anderson and CDR were the core of the team. I see Lomax, Williams, and Quiones playing that role now. They will be key in keeping the culture going.

2008 had a bunch of guys...

Dozier was the most under appreciated...Kid did it all but got no glory.
Dorsey was just a defensive stopper/Rebounder.
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RE: DeAndre Williams is returning
(04-15-2021 03:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 01:11 PM)yakko Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 11:08 AM)Eagle4Christ Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 07:39 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 04:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Best all-round player on the team and a winner. He and Lomax will be the leaders of next year's squad and they will be focused and mature. I'm thrilled.

Huge news for Tiger hoops.

Agree

They are not the best players but they will be the leaders, likely along with Lester, and they are damn good players

Lomax, Williams, Quiones, Nolley will keep the cultural expectations of the program steady, making it easier for new faces to learn how to fit in. Such great news.

when you look at the 2008 team, sure Rose was the piece that had been missing, but Antonio Anderson and CDR were the core of the team. I see Lomax, Williams, and Quiones playing that role now. They will be key in keeping the culture going.

2008 had a bunch of guys...

Dozier was the most under appreciated...Kid did it all but got no glory.
Dorsey was just a defensive stopper/Rebounder.

One of the most under appreciated performances was Dozier in the national championship game. 5 offensive rebounds and 10 in total. Dorsey had 2 and Taggart had 6. IF CDR passes the ball back to him instead of getting intentionally fouled, he gets credit for the championship clinching dunk.
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RE: DeAndre Williams is returning
(04-15-2021 03:00 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:42 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  All things considered.. would we rather have Nolley or Cisse back, if we had to choose?

DJ...

But Seriously it depends on what the other guys bring...

Nolley is a smooth shooter but he definitely needs help to score.

Cisse is a elite defensive player\rebounder but lacks offense...Looked for a big jump next year offensively.

Is the drop from Nolley to Minott, Camden or Davion greater than the drop from Cisse to Sam.

I'm not super high on Nolley though...He is a solid player
He scored 2-3 more points than everyone else...But he also shot 29% more shots than they did as well.

DJ? Come on. Nolley plays circles CONSISTENTLY around DJ.
Nolley was our only all-conference player. He was the NIT MVP.
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RE: DeAndre Williams is returning
Deandre is yuge culturally and for team chemistry. LQ will be too, but he's still maturing. (He made big strides this year.) Lomax leads more by example. I think we get off to a good start next year.

The core 3 of LQ, Landers, and Deandre make a formidable lineup basis.

Coach Roy said they were making the announcement so that other players can see who they will be playing with. Not sure who that was directed at, but it seems to be someone.
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RE: DeAndre Williams is returning
(04-15-2021 08:45 AM)Irse Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 08:26 AM)cmt Wrote:  Alright, I don't understand. Can any player at any time of the year decide to transfer with immediate eligibility and no penalties of any kind? Are there no deadlines, windows, limits, anything? Who came up with this? I guess I thought the players who hadn't put their name in the portal were staying, but I guess not? Is it true that all players that haven't entered the portal still can? Can they the week before the season starts? An hour before the season starts? At halftime? Who came up with this insanity?

This is what I found so far

Quote:Those in fall and winter sports must notify their schools by May 1 that they intend to transfer; in spring sports, the notification date will be July 1. The notification dates begin in 2022.

For this year, athletes in all sports will be required to notify their schools about their intent to transfer by July 1.

I would think if someone transfers outside the timeframe, he would have to sit out a year.

Unless it's a coaching change or a scholly withdrawal. For that, there will be an appeal process (good grief).
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(04-15-2021 12:04 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Bump! This needs to ride the top of the Dock for a long time. Every time I remember Williams is coming back... I get a big lift of vitality.

I pull a Chris Matthews and get a thrill up my leg.
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(04-15-2021 09:26 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 08:55 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 08:45 AM)Irse Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 08:26 AM)cmt Wrote:  Alright, I don't understand. Can any player at any time of the year decide to transfer with immediate eligibility and no penalties of any kind? Are there no deadlines, windows, limits, anything? Who came up with this? I guess I thought the players who hadn't put their name in the portal were staying, but I guess not? Is it true that all players that haven't entered the portal still can? Can they the week before the season starts? An hour before the season starts? At halftime? Who came up with this insanity?

This is what I found so far

Quote:Those in fall and winter sports must notify their schools by May 1 that they intend to transfer; in spring sports, the notification date will be July 1. The notification dates begin in 2022.

For this year, athletes in all sports will be required to notify their schools about their intent to transfer by July 1.

I would think if someone transfers outside the timeframe, he would have to sit out a year.

Thanks

Also, the new rule only allows you to transfer once without penalty. A second time, you still have to sit out a year.

Unless the transfer involves the University of Memphis, whereupon no matter when you transfer you must sit out until pigs fly.... 03-pissed

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(04-15-2021 04:33 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 12:04 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  Bump! This needs to ride the top of the Dock for a long time. Every time I remember Williams is coming back... I get a big lift of vitality.

I pull a Chris Matthews and get a thrill up my leg.

Well played (and I note that with respect for Chris Matthews' knowledge of U.S. politics and history).
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DeAndre Williams is returning
Best news of the day.

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(04-15-2021 02:40 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 01:28 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:50 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:42 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  All things considered.. would we rather have Nolley or Cisse back, if we had to choose?

Nolley. He is a high level scorer and we have struggled to score often under Penny.

Nolley. Consistent scorer.

But getting Cisse back would be a big deal.

Nolley and it’s not even close. And that’s not a knock on Cisse.

For sure. My sentiments exactly.
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Have we heard any more about Williams return?
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(04-15-2021 04:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 03:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 01:11 PM)yakko Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 11:08 AM)Eagle4Christ Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 07:39 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Agree

They are not the best players but they will be the leaders, likely along with Lester, and they are damn good players

Lomax, Williams, Quiones, Nolley will keep the cultural expectations of the program steady, making it easier for new faces to learn how to fit in. Such great news.

when you look at the 2008 team, sure Rose was the piece that had been missing, but Antonio Anderson and CDR were the core of the team. I see Lomax, Williams, and Quiones playing that role now. They will be key in keeping the culture going.

2008 had a bunch of guys...

Dozier was the most under appreciated...Kid did it all but got no glory.
Dorsey was just a defensive stopper/Rebounder.

One of the most under appreciated performances was Dozier in the national championship game. 5 offensive rebounds and 10 in total. Dorsey had 2 and Taggart had 6. IF CDR passes the ball back to him instead of getting intentionally fouled, he gets credit for the championship clinching dunk.

OMG.. I thought that's what CDR was going to do. I hate he didn't see him.
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RE: DeAndre Williams is returning
(04-15-2021 04:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 03:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 01:11 PM)yakko Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 11:08 AM)Eagle4Christ Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 07:39 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Agree

They are not the best players but they will be the leaders, likely along with Lester, and they are damn good players

Lomax, Williams, Quiones, Nolley will keep the cultural expectations of the program steady, making it easier for new faces to learn how to fit in. Such great news.

when you look at the 2008 team, sure Rose was the piece that had been missing, but Antonio Anderson and CDR were the core of the team. I see Lomax, Williams, and Quiones playing that role now. They will be key in keeping the culture going.

2008 had a bunch of guys...

Dozier was the most under appreciated...Kid did it all but got no glory.
Dorsey was just a defensive stopper/Rebounder.

One of the most under appreciated performances was Dozier in the national championship game. 5 offensive rebounds and 10 in total. Dorsey had 2 and Taggart had 6. IF CDR passes the ball back to him instead of getting intentionally fouled, he gets credit for the championship clinching dunk.

Wasn't that after Dozier blocked a shot to start the fast break CDR was on and just before Dozier grabbed an offensive rebound off of CDR's missed free throw?

On a different note, I hate how players wait to get fouled. I'd much rather them play hot potato and not let the defenders near them. As I recall, I wanted CDR to dribble out and pass it back to AA (play keep away from KU) on that play.
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(04-16-2021 12:18 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Have we heard any more about Williams return?

You wanting him to announce it again today?
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(04-16-2021 02:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 12:18 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Have we heard any more about Williams return?

You wanting him to announce it again today?

Yeah...I didn't see the first one.
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(04-16-2021 02:55 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 02:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 12:18 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Have we heard any more about Williams return?

You wanting him to announce it again today?

Yeah...I didn't see the first one.

Deandre instagram announcement
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(04-15-2021 04:10 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 03:00 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-15-2021 10:42 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  All things considered.. would we rather have Nolley or Cisse back, if we had to choose?

DJ...

But Seriously it depends on what the other guys bring...

Nolley is a smooth shooter but he definitely needs help to score.

Cisse is a elite defensive player\rebounder but lacks offense...Looked for a big jump next year offensively.

Is the drop from Nolley to Minott, Camden or Davion greater than the drop from Cisse to Sam.

I'm not super high on Nolley though...He is a solid player
He scored 2-3 more points than everyone else...But he also shot 29% more shots than they did as well.

DJ? Come on. Nolley plays circles CONSISTENTLY around DJ.
Nolley was our only all-conference player. He was the NIT MVP.

Opinions differ...

If I had to choose I am picking DJ.

DJ Better rebounder...Better defender...Better facilitator...More Versatile (Especially on defense)

Nolley definitely a better scorer.

Now that is all of the physical tools...Now I am not sure DJ was a leader by example or vocally. But if DJ got serious definitely had much more upside.
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