(04-15-2021 03:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (04-15-2021 02:54 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: (04-15-2021 02:38 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: For the time period from 2015 through 2020 black people were fatally shot by police at a rate of 35 per million people, vs white people were shot at a rate of 14 per million people.
Comparing raw numbers is stupid when the population sizes are different, black people are being killed by police at over twice the rate of white people.
They are also probably 5 times more likely to live in high violent crime areas.... where the 'rules of engagement' for law enforcement (as well as the choice of engagement by more citizens) is vastly different.
If you live next door to a crack house, the odds that you are accidentally shot, detained, frisked, not trusted etc etc etc are probably 1,000 times that if you live next door to a church. Why? Because unless you're Zorro, you probably aren't harboring criminals in a church... but you ARE at a crack house.
WHY is it that we're willing to even consider legalizing mind-altering drugs in order to reduce the incidence of crime, but we aren't even remotely willing to consider allowing people who don't currently have a lot of CHOICE of where to live... to have that choice?
I can think of fewer STUPID things in my life... and I FAVOR legalizing marijuana.
I'm on vacation in CR but you are making our point
First, If I'm making 'your' point... then you look pretty foolish telling me to get educated, don't you??
But no. I'm making THE point. 'Our' point I suspect you mean is 'democrats'.... and YOUR point is clearly to keep those people 'where they are' so that you can extract political power from them.
Let them move, and they quite obviously choose to buy high value (high potential for appreciation) homes in more expensive, lower crime areas. If you can show me ONE of 'your' people who has suggested that minorities move out of high crime (democratically controlled) areas, it will be the first. The closest I've seen is 'your' side arguing to put more money into these areas... either through jobs or grants or tax abatements or what have you... but almost always controlled by politicians, not by 'the people'.
What 'your' point has been quite obviously to create what should NOT be a contentious point... that there are good people who are surrounded by crime, who get treated like criminals because the police are quite often afraid for their own lives.... where these 'in the moment' decisions are heavily tainted by the aggression that these people face 40+ hours per week... and turn it in to RACE war because it suits your political agenda. Where giving people living in the projects a portion of the value of those projects (quite often, highly valuable, inner-city property) which is NET ZERO COST TO ANYONE isn't NEARLY as valuable to you as 'punishing' people who in almost EVERY case are descendents of slaves, slave owners, abolitionists AND racist... to give money to people of similar descent, or who may or may not have been party to the rights OR wrongs of the 1800's, or even the 1950s... but absolutely HAVE been victims of THIS GENERATION'S Democrats.... including 2021.
Seriously... I just described an action that effectively provides 'reparations' directly to people who are CURRENTLY being exploited by a racist system, giving them the clear opportunities that they CHOOSE, EVERY single time they have the ability to do so... while also maintaining the political power for their choice of representatives... historically Democrats... No political dilution by gentrification... If you disagree with my idea, that's fine... but you'd better be smart or informed enough to back it up... because I'm clearly no fool.
and you're not too busy to tell me to read a book, but you're too busy to respond to real ideas. I suspect its really that you're either too ingrained in 'left/right' dogma that you just don't know any better, or you lack the intellectual integrity to engage in legitimate discussion. I'll let you decide... but your actions speak louder than your words.