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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-12-2021 08:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 03:56 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 03:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  


Accidental discharge=premature execution.

Damn...What a clusterfck the cops have on their hands on this one. This should be used as a training tool EVERYWHERE in the country on how NOT to handle an arrest like this. They should have removed the keys from the vehicle or removed the suspect far away from the vehicle. They just left him easy access back into his vehicle with passengers inside and the keys in the ignition. The cops procedure was almost as dumb as him trying to escape.

You are absolutely right. Major screw ups all around here.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-12-2021 08:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 08:24 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 05:44 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 03:14 PM)Danforth Wrote:  Why does this keep happening?
Why does what keep happening?
Resisting arrest. Why does it keep happening?

I've seen the statistics for blacks versus browns versus whites killed by law enforcement officers. The one conclusion that leaps off the page is that you are extremely unlikely to be killed by an LEO regardless of race.

What I would like to see is statistics broken down by citizen cooperates versus citizen resists.

That stat should be very easy to predict. The problem is that the SJW's refuse to advocate non-resistance to arrest and I believe that is intentional.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-12-2021 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 02:21 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Looks like the cops effed up.

Yep...Unfortunately this little POS will become a martyr and the officers life is ruined because he resisted arrest for a warrant and caused this mess.

Im still waiting for ONE civil rights advocate to come out and urge people to NOT resist arrest. Im also waiting for ONE of these rich SJW's in sports and hollywood to start a defense fund for those that do not resist arrest. Just how fcking desperate or stupid do you have to be to try and escape arrest with everything that has happened"?

Just gotta comply to authority, like with masks, lockdowns and the vaccine.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-13-2021 04:36 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 02:21 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Looks like the cops effed up.

Yep...Unfortunately this little POS will become a martyr and the officers life is ruined because he resisted arrest for a warrant and caused this mess.

Im still waiting for ONE civil rights advocate to come out and urge people to NOT resist arrest. Im also waiting for ONE of these rich SJW's in sports and hollywood to start a defense fund for those that do not resist arrest. Just how fcking desperate or stupid do you have to be to try and escape arrest with everything that has happened"?

Just gotta comply to authority, like with masks, lockdowns and the vaccine.



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(04-12-2021 10:13 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Brooklyn Center city manager fired after calling for due process for police officer involved in shooting

WOW. This... is disturbing.

I watched that lynch mob... I mean, news conference.

I thought the city manager was the only objective, fair person that spoke. He stuck to his guns that due process was owed in the matter.

... and now he's fired.

That's what Hitler did. If you disagreed with him you're outta there.

That's scary.
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(04-13-2021 05:49 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:13 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Brooklyn Center city manager fired after calling for due process for police officer involved in shooting

WOW. This... is disturbing.

I watched that lynch mob... I mean, news conference.

I thought the city manager was the only objective, fair person that spoke. He stuck to his guns that due process was owed in the matter.

... and now he's fired.

That's what Hitler did. If you disagreed with him you're outta there.

That's scary.



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(04-12-2021 03:14 PM)Danforth Wrote:  Why does this keep happening?

Criminals resist arrest.

End.

Of.

Story.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
It looks like the officer attempting to get the handcuffs on was unable to do so because the guy was resisting arrest, so the other officers stepped in.

Did they handle it correctly? Obviously not.

But once again it comes down to - if you resist the chances of something like this happening go way up. If he had let the first officer put the handcuffs on then most likely this would not have happened.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-13-2021 04:36 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 02:21 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Looks like the cops effed up.

Yep...Unfortunately this little POS will become a martyr and the officers life is ruined because he resisted arrest for a warrant and caused this mess.

Im still waiting for ONE civil rights advocate to come out and urge people to NOT resist arrest. Im also waiting for ONE of these rich SJW's in sports and hollywood to start a defense fund for those that do not resist arrest. Just how fcking desperate or stupid do you have to be to try and escape arrest with everything that has happened"?

Just gotta comply to authority, like with masks, lockdowns and the vaccine.

Yeah, luckily I live in one of the free states where masks and lockdowns are no longer required. I didn't even know people were still getting sick.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-12-2021 03:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  


There's no such thing as an "accidental discharge." It's a negligent discharge.
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(04-13-2021 08:05 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  
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There's no such thing as an "accidental discharge." It's a negligent discharge.

Just part of the cover up.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
Do you know what could have avoided an accidental discharge?

Don't resist. Don't be an idiot. I've been pulled over a fair number of times in my life, and I've never decided to be an idiot and get myself shot.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-13-2021 04:36 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 02:21 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Looks like the cops effed up.

Yep...Unfortunately this little POS will become a martyr and the officers life is ruined because he resisted arrest for a warrant and caused this mess.

Im still waiting for ONE civil rights advocate to come out and urge people to NOT resist arrest. Im also waiting for ONE of these rich SJW's in sports and hollywood to start a defense fund for those that do not resist arrest. Just how fcking desperate or stupid do you have to be to try and escape arrest with everything that has happened"?

Just gotta comply to authority, like with masks, lockdowns and the vaccine.
Ummm yeah troll, even you know the difference

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(04-12-2021 04:23 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Yep she screwed up majorly. So did the idiot trying to run, where did he think he was going to go?

It is also a perfect example of how poorly we train police officers.

It's also a indicator that all the gun carrying "I'm gonna protect myself if a criminal ever comes up on me" would likely sh!t themselves if that ever happened.

Trained military people kill with friendly fire, cops shoot themselves, grab a wrong weapon, yet fat Joe in jorts is gonna be Wyatt Earp out there.
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(04-13-2021 08:26 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
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There's no such thing as an "accidental discharge." It's a negligent discharge.

Just part of the cover up.

Here's the other thing...if the cop simply used deadly force in the first place, would it have been justified?

The suspect, in the process of being cuffed, (on a weapons charge) breaks loose and gets back into his car.

The officer hasn't secured the safety of the car, so it's not known if the suspect can access a gun in the car.

Must the officer wait until the suspect produces a gun in order to shoot? Does the cop just have to let the suspect drive off?

It's similar to the Nashville shooting where the suspect didn't have a gun until she did have a gun and got the drop on the cop.



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(04-13-2021 08:40 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 04:23 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Yep she screwed up majorly. So did the idiot trying to run, where did he think he was going to go?

It is also a perfect example of how poorly we train police officers.

It's also a indicator that all the gun carrying "I'm gonna protect myself if a criminal ever comes up on me" would likely sh!t themselves if that ever happened.

Trained military people kill with friendly fire, cops shoot themselves, grab a wrong weapon, yet fat Joe in jorts is gonna be Wyatt Earp out there.

Friendly fire and cops screwing up are the exception rather than the rule. Pretty sure most would like the opportunity to defend themselves rather than wait for help to arrive because most likely the help will arrive too late. People thwart attacks quite often.
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RE: Here We Go Again...LEO Involved Shooting In Minnesota
(04-13-2021 04:36 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 08:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 02:21 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Looks like the cops effed up.

Yep...Unfortunately this little POS will become a martyr and the officers life is ruined because he resisted arrest for a warrant and caused this mess.

Im still waiting for ONE civil rights advocate to come out and urge people to NOT resist arrest. Im also waiting for ONE of these rich SJW's in sports and hollywood to start a defense fund for those that do not resist arrest. Just how fcking desperate or stupid do you have to be to try and escape arrest with everything that has happened"?

Just gotta comply to authority, like with masks, lockdowns and the vaccine.

You're right... they do expect people to comply with authority whether civil or private. Business can't open during pandemic by government edict. Companies may not welcome customers who haven't been vaccinated. And private citizens have taken up the cause to harass people who refuse to wear masks.

So why isn't compliance with police expected? Why doesn't the government expect compliance during a traffic stop? Why don't companies refuse to serve people with outstanding warrants? Why don't private citizens take up the cause to harass people who refuse to comply during traffic stops?
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