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RE: University of Hartford considering dropping down from Division 1
(05-11-2022 02:51 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(05-11-2022 01:32 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  D-III athletes pay to be there.

I get what you mean, but, at the good/power D3 programs, the highly recruited student athletes do get incentives to go there and play, but they’re through other merit-based aid, grants, or scholarships. The name on the door helps, too…if I play a sport well enough (perhaps even D1-level, though not top tier D1) and a D3 school wants me, they’re going to have to make it worth my while somehow, especially if the school doesn’t have the name recognition.

But, you’re right…they don’t have to a thing and treat you like any other prospective student. For Hartford, I would be shocked if they pulled this sort of shift, though. I am even wondering that when Hartford makes this move, that if they just stop that kind of recruiting in some of their more noteworthy programs, including basketball…I suspect they lose a lot more alumni support. Even if it’s not great now, it can get worse.

D3 isn't really looking for the high end recruit really. The average D3 player is actually there for a education. The better players might hope to transfer to a D2 or D1 school and get a scholarship. Though most scholarship hopefuls go the junior college route then to D2 or D1. I consider D3 as players not recruited out of high school or the Junco ranks. They're just happy having a payday game against some D1 looking for a home game.
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RE: University of Hartford considering dropping down from Division 1
(05-11-2022 10:11 PM)46566 Wrote:  
(05-11-2022 02:51 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(05-11-2022 01:32 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  D-III athletes pay to be there.

I get what you mean, but, at the good/power D3 programs, the highly recruited student athletes do get incentives to go there and play, but they’re through other merit-based aid, grants, or scholarships. The name on the door helps, too…if I play a sport well enough (perhaps even D1-level, though not top tier D1) and a D3 school wants me, they’re going to have to make it worth my while somehow, especially if the school doesn’t have the name recognition.

But, you’re right…they don’t have to a thing and treat you like any other prospective student. For Hartford, I would be shocked if they pulled this sort of shift, though. I am even wondering that when Hartford makes this move, that if they just stop that kind of recruiting in some of their more noteworthy programs, including basketball…I suspect they lose a lot more alumni support. Even if it’s not great now, it can get worse.

D3 isn't really looking for the high end recruit really. The average D3 player is actually there for a education. The better players might hope to transfer to a D2 or D1 school and get a scholarship. Though most scholarship hopefuls go the junior college route then to D2 or D1. I consider D3 as players not recruited out of high school or the Junco ranks. They're just happy having a payday game against some D1 looking for a home game.

I don’t necessarily disagree overall, but I think it varies based on the school and program with respect to a willingness to compete for a kid in certain sports. YMMV with respect to any recruit’s institutional fit.

Schools aren’t dumb to the challenges, either. An athletic scholarship puts (and historically at least meant to keep) the kid there for the sport/team. The merit aid/grant stuff gets them to the school. I knew a few folks (friends and family) like that who leveraged their HS athletic careers to get more options and decent aid packages at non-D1 institutions. Season starts, change of heart, oh well. Got a year or two or so free or discounted, though. It’s said to be an issue at the Ivy schools in certain programs (I heard about the coaching challenges for women’s basketball when they go out and get a class, and then some flake out; getting into the school was the endgame). Or, get recruited for a sport and not fit at the school. Get the aid, but still flunk out. At least the kid isn’t stuck with a tab when maybe both sides knew it was a gamble.

For Hartford, it’s that potential for drop-off in quality and commitment that I would be wary of. No skin in the game, but it wouldn’t surprise me either way if, say, Hartford basketball became a consistent presence for D3 playoffs, or you never heard from them again. Under its current leadership, he strikes me as the kind of person who would steer toward the latter. Kinda gives off a slightly more polished “Rutgers 1000” type.
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