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Final Top 25 Coaches Poll
Final coaches poll (AP no longer does a final poll)

By league:

Big 12: six teams

Pac-12: five

Big Ten: four

ACC: three

SEC: two

Big East: two

AAC, MVC, WCC: each with one

Others getting votes:

AAC: one

ACC: three

Big East: one

Big Ten: four

Big 12: one

Big South: one

MWC: one

MVC: one

Pac-12: none

SEC: three

Summit: one

WCC: one



https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
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The B1G had one team drop out and the four that remain fell a combined 19 spots from the previous poll.

That about sums up their tournament.
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I thought Memphis might sneak in the rankings with winning the NIT ... shows the power of NCAA. (And I am ok with it and understand).
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(04-06-2021 03:49 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Final coaches poll (AP no longer does a final poll)

By league:

Big 12: six teams

Pac-12: five

Big Ten: four

ACC: three

SEC: two

Big East: two

AAC, MVC, WCC: each with one

Others getting votes:

AAC: one

ACC: three

Big East: one

Big Ten: four

Big 12: one

Big South: one

MWC: one

MVC: one

Pac-12: none

SEC: three

Summit: one

WCC: one



https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

2,3,12 were not P6. 11 and 14 were BE.
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(04-06-2021 05:51 PM)virgosports Wrote:  I thought Memphis might sneak in the rankings with winning the NIT ... shows the power of NCAA. (And I am ok with it and understand).


I was hoping Memphis might "slip" in at No. 25 but knew the Tigers' chances were about 10 percent at best.

The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.
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(04-06-2021 07:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 05:51 PM)virgosports Wrote:  I thought Memphis might sneak in the rankings with winning the NIT ... shows the power of NCAA. (And I am ok with it and understand).


I was hoping Memphis might "slip" in at No. 25 but knew the Tigers' chances were about 10 percent at best.

The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.

I, of course remember 1978 when Texas won the NIT and finished ranked 17. UK was #1. This was the last year with no conference runnerups, although they had 11 slots for independents.
http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbaske...G0IGuhKjIV
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(04-06-2021 08:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 07:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 05:51 PM)virgosports Wrote:  I thought Memphis might sneak in the rankings with winning the NIT ... shows the power of NCAA. (And I am ok with it and understand).


I was hoping Memphis might "slip" in at No. 25 but knew the Tigers' chances were about 10 percent at best.

The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.

I, of course remember 1978 when Texas won the NIT and finished ranked 17. UK was #1. This was the last year with no conference runnerups, although they had 11 slots for independents.
http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbaske...G0IGuhKjIV


A good memory, Bullet. Just checked that final 1978 poll and smiled to see DePaul at No. 3. Ah, those days are a distant memory.
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(04-06-2021 07:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.

Wow, I am surprised that so few NIT winners have made the final top 25. I was surprised that Memphis did not this year (IMO they should have), and am shocked that it hasn't happened since 1993.

IMO, winning the NIT is about equivalent to making the Sweet 16 of the big dance. It's a pretty significant achievement, so I would only expect the Sweet 16 teams and a few others ranked ahead of them.

But obviously, the pollsters have not historically agreed.
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(04-06-2021 08:27 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 07:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 05:51 PM)virgosports Wrote:  I thought Memphis might sneak in the rankings with winning the NIT ... shows the power of NCAA. (And I am ok with it and understand).


I was hoping Memphis might "slip" in at No. 25 but knew the Tigers' chances were about 10 percent at best.

The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.

I, of course remember 1978 when Texas won the NIT and finished ranked 17. UK was #1. This was the last year with no conference runnerups, although they had 11 slots for independents.
http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbaske...G0IGuhKjIV


A good memory, Bullet. Just checked that final 1978 poll and smiled to see DePaul at No. 3. Ah, those days are a distant memory.

1978 was a long wait for UK fans, 20 years. In 1975 there was a story about a player from the 1966 team (lost to UTEP in title game) who had saved a piece of celebratory cake from 1966 in his freezer. He promised to eat it all if UK beat UCLA in that final (as they were favored to do until John Wooden motivated his team by announcing his retirement). Hope he saved it 3 more years.
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(04-07-2021 10:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 07:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.

Wow, I am surprised that so few NIT winners have made the final top 25. I was surprised that Memphis did not this year (IMO they should have), and am shocked that it hasn't happened since 1993.

IMO, winning the NIT is about equivalent to making the Sweet 16 of the big dance. It's a pretty significant achievement, so I would only expect the Sweet 16 teams and a few others ranked ahead of them.

But obviously, the pollsters have not historically agreed.


I actually enjoy following the NIT annually and always check this time each year to see if the winner finishes in the final Top 25 coaches poll. I thought Memphis had a shot this time around and appreciate the kind words toward the Tigers. They were a solid team, having lost closely twice to Houston at year's end and then looking strong against quality competition in the NIT.

I agree with you that in general winning the NIT is roughly the equivalent of making the Sweet 16 in the big dance. It's a fairly big deal. I'm not sure many would agree with us, however.
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(04-07-2021 12:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:27 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 07:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 05:51 PM)virgosports Wrote:  I thought Memphis might sneak in the rankings with winning the NIT ... shows the power of NCAA. (And I am ok with it and understand).


I was hoping Memphis might "slip" in at No. 25 but knew the Tigers' chances were about 10 percent at best.

The only time I recall an NIT winner finishing in one of the final polls was when Minnesota, at 20-10, finished No. 25 in the final coaches poll in 1993.

I, of course remember 1978 when Texas won the NIT and finished ranked 17. UK was #1. This was the last year with no conference runnerups, although they had 11 slots for independents.
http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbaske...G0IGuhKjIV


A good memory, Bullet. Just checked that final 1978 poll and smiled to see DePaul at No. 3. Ah, those days are a distant memory.

1978 was a long wait for UK fans, 20 years. In 1975 there was a story about a player from the 1966 team (lost to UTEP in title game) who had saved a piece of celebratory cake from 1966 in his freezer. He promised to eat it all if UK beat UCLA in that final (as they were favored to do until John Wooden motivated his team by announcing his retirement). Hope he saved it 3 more years.

That's a great story. Out of curiosity, Bullet: For which of the three programs you list have you cheered the longest?
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