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RE: Calkins on Scott Drew 4-3-2009
(04-06-2021 09:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  No one else has hired him. You never even hear about him getting offers.

Same for Mark Few.

Few gets offers. There was smoke around him as soon as Roy Williams retired.
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(04-06-2021 10:31 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:51 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Nobody would get on a coaches bandwagon if he promised to get to a Final Four in 18 years. That's how long it took.

You do realize how big the mess he took over at Baylor was right?

Ya, if any school had been through what they had been through I am guessing they would gladly agree to hire someone that could get them into a Final Four at any point in the future, be it 18 years or 30 years... They were in the grave with the lid closed and dirt being tossed on when Drew arrived.
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(04-06-2021 11:34 AM)gusrob Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  No one else has hired him. You never even hear about him getting offers.

Same for Mark Few.

Few gets offers. There was smoke around him as soon as Roy Williams retired.

Few has a nice gig. No football team. Crazy basketball city. Spokane is a beautiful. They play a National schedule. I was hoping the Zags could pull it off. Lot of respect for Few!
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RE: Calkins on Scott Drew 4-3-2009
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.
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RE: Calkins on Scott Drew 4-3-2009
(04-06-2021 11:54 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.

He's still depressed that Tubby was doing such a great job and got fired.
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RE: Calkins on Scott Drew 4-3-2009
(04-06-2021 11:34 AM)gusrob Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  No one else has hired him. You never even hear about him getting offers.

Same for Mark Few.

Few gets offers. There was smoke around him as soon as Roy Williams retired.

Actually Scott Drew had better odd than Few.

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RE: Calkins on Scott Drew 4-3-2009
(04-06-2021 11:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:34 AM)gusrob Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  No one else has hired him. You never even hear about him getting offers.

Same for Mark Few.

Few gets offers. There was smoke around him as soon as Roy Williams retired.

Actually Scott Drew had better odd than Few.

https://www.si.com/college/unc/basketbal...bert-davis

@SBD ODDS TO BE THE NEXT UNC MEN’S BASKETBALL HEAD COACH

Hubert Davis: -110
Wes Miller: +350
Jerry Stackhouse: +1100
Steve Robinson: +2400
Jerod Haase: +4900
Scott Drew: +5200
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Kenny Smith: +9900
Rick Pitino: +15000
Mark Turgeon: +17500
Larry Brown: +17500
Mark Few: +20000
Tyler Hansbrough: +2,500,000
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FIELD: +4800

No other factors there. lol

Take your money and put it on Hubert Davis. Keep the small winnings and enjoy. 04-cheers
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(04-06-2021 11:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:54 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.

He's still depressed that Tubby was doing such a great job and got fired.

Ok. So, I said I was done replying to anything you posted, but I'm going to break that rule one last time. Then, no more.

Listen here, you ignorant douche bag, for the 859th time...Tubby is a good person and a good basketball coach. That said, the fit at Memphis wasn't good and he had lost some of his fire. Couple that with the fact that he (nor the people who hired him) did their due diligence about what he was walking into. Being that you really don't know much about Memphis, I should probably cut you some slack on this point, but being that you are such an overbearing a$$hole, I won't.

The high school/AAU basketball scene in Memphis is a corrupt cesspool. And, that's putting it nicely. Tubby refused to kiss a$$ and break the rules. The only thing that might have saved his tenure would have been a former Tiger legend that was coaching high school at the time, since that person LOVES Memphis so much. But, his undying LOVE for Memphis didn't quite equal his own aspirations of being a head coach at his alma mater and he (along with the other HS/AAU "playas" in town) couldn't get rid of Tubby, fast enough.

I would go on, but I truly don't think you possess the intellectual honesty to do anything other than twist words and hurl insults. But yeah, I like Tubby and it sucks the way things played out. I'm really sorry that a nuanced view that opposes your sheer ignorance finds you replying to my every post and combing thru my posts from years gone by. But, it's not surprising, as you are clearly a monumental tool bag, who has nothing better to do with his day than to pick apart every post on a message board. Honestly, it's kinda sad and pathetic.

Peace out and F off.
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Calkins is a know it all prick!
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RE: Calkins on Scott Drew 4-3-2009
(04-06-2021 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:54 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.

He's still depressed that Tubby was doing such a great job and got fired.

Ok. So, I said I was done replying to anything you posted, but I'm going to break that rule one last time. Then, no more.

Listen here, you ignorant douche bag, for the 859th time...Tubby is a good person and a good basketball coach. That said, the fit at Memphis wasn't good and he had lost some of his fire. Couple that with the fact that he (nor the people who hired him) did their due diligence about what he was walking into. Being that you really don't know much about Memphis, I should probably cut you some slack on this point, but being that you are such an overbearing a$$hole, I won't.

The high school/AAU basketball scene in Memphis is a corrupt cesspool. And, that's putting it nicely. Tubby refused to kiss a$$ and break the rules. The only thing that might have saved his tenure would have been a former Tiger legend that was coaching high school at the time, since that person LOVES Memphis so much. But, his undying LOVE for Memphis didn't quite equal his own aspirations of being a head coach at his alma mater and he (along with the other HS/AAU "playas" in town) couldn't get rid of Tubby, fast enough.

I would go on, but I truly don't think you possess the intellectual honesty to do anything other than twist words and hurl insults. But yeah, I like Tubby and it sucks the way things played out. I'm really sorry that a nuanced view that opposes your sheer ignorance finds you replying to my every post and combing thru my posts from years gone by. But, it's not surprising, as you are clearly a monumental tool bag, who has nothing better to do with his day than to pick apart every post on a message board. Honestly, it's kinda sad and pathetic.

Peace out and F off.

What’s sad is you actually believe all that. Penny hasn’t gotten a player from Memphis in the last two recruiting classes unless you count Cisse. And as for Tubby he came here for the money. So he’s not as clean as all you folks try and make him out to be.
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(04-06-2021 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:54 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.

He's still depressed that Tubby was doing such a great job and got fired.

Ok. So, I said I was done replying to anything you posted, but I'm going to break that rule one last time. Then, no more.

Listen here, you ignorant douche bag, for the 859th time...Tubby is a good person and a good basketball coach. That said, the fit at Memphis wasn't good and he had lost some of his fire. Couple that with the fact that he (nor the people who hired him) did their due diligence about what he was walking into. Being that you really don't know much about Memphis, I should probably cut you some slack on this point, but being that you are such an overbearing a$$hole, I won't.

The high school/AAU basketball scene in Memphis is a corrupt cesspool. And, that's putting it nicely. Tubby refused to kiss a$$ and break the rules. The only thing that might have saved his tenure would have been a former Tiger legend that was coaching high school at the time, since that person LOVES Memphis so much. But, his undying LOVE for Memphis didn't quite equal his own aspirations of being a head coach at his alma mater and he (along with the other HS/AAU "playas" in town) couldn't get rid of Tubby, fast enough.

I would go on, but I truly don't think you possess the intellectual honesty to do anything other than twist words and hurl insults. But yeah, I like Tubby and it sucks the way things played out. I'm really sorry that a nuanced view that opposes your sheer ignorance finds you replying to my every post and combing thru my posts from years gone by. But, it's not surprising, as you are clearly a monumental tool bag, who has nothing better to do with his day than to pick apart every post on a message board. Honestly, it's kinda sad and pathetic.

Peace out and F off.

Goodness, the language. You're so upsetted. 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

Quote:The only thing that might have saved his tenure would have been a former Tiger legend that was coaching high school at the time, since that person LOVES Memphis so much. But, his undying LOVE for Memphis didn't quite equal his own aspirations of being a head coach at his alma mater and he (along with the other HS/AAU "playas" in town) couldn't get rid of Tubby, fast enough.

Your whole post is so beyond insane; I'm going to do you a favour and just laugh at one part of it. Point form as always, to make it as simple as possible for slow learners.

- Tubby could have saved his tenure by not being a ******* lazy check cashing loser
- Tubby could have saved his tenure by letting daddy Lawson recruit all of the kids and DJ for him
- Tubby could have saved his tenure by signing any of the other hundreds of good players from the other 49 states
- Tubby could have saved his tenure by not going on vacation TWICE when we had 7 scholarship players on the roster

Last but not least, it would have been unconscionable for Penny to allow anyone he cares about to play for a lazy piece of **** has been like Tubby. I guarantee you that IF Shaka Smart, Gregg Marshall, Archie Miller, or anyone reputable was our coach, he would have tried to steer players here. You met Tubby and he didn't pull the elastic of your underpants over your head, so you love him. You hate Penny, we get it.

Only someone pathetic like you, is still defending Tubby. You need to have your head examined.
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Tubby came here because we offered him millions of dollars? Oh, heaven's to Betsy! The nerve of that guy. What a low down, dirt bag to accept a multi-million dollar contract. Quick...someone alert the authorities.

And, him being under cut by the HS/AAU coaches in Memphis when he wouldn't play their game is a FACT.
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(04-06-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Tubby came here because we offered him millions of dollars? Oh, heaven's to Betsy! The nerve of that guy. What a low down, dirt bag to accept a multi-million dollar contract. Quick...someone alert the authorities.

And, him being under cut by the HS/AAU coaches in Memphis when he wouldn't play their game is a FACT.

I think the rub is accepting the term of the contract, cashing the checks and then seemingly only half-ass fulfilling his part of the deal...
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Like it or not, the guy is a bit of an evangelist...not that there's anything wrong with that.
It's just that he uses it to bond young men. I'm not sure he can bond players together into a team unless he can go all evangelical. That's all he's ever known at Baylor.

Are many (if any) colleges gonna let their head coach submerge players in the water of baptism (literally)
...wait...

Maybe they could put a very clear clause in his contract.
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(04-06-2021 02:47 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Tubby came here because we offered him millions of dollars? Oh, heaven's to Betsy! The nerve of that guy. What a low down, dirt bag to accept a multi-million dollar contract. Quick...someone alert the authorities.

And, him being under cut by the HS/AAU coaches in Memphis when he wouldn't play their game is a FACT.

I think the rub is accepting the term of the contract, cashing the checks and then seemingly only half-ass fulfilling his part of the deal...

Now, that is a fair point and worthy of discussion.
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(04-06-2021 02:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Like it or not, the guy is a bit of an evangelist...not that there's anything wrong with that.
It's just that he uses it to bond young men. I'm not sure he can bond players together into a team unless he can go all evangelical. That's all he's ever known at Baylor.

Are many (if any) colleges gonna let their head coach submerge players in the water of baptism (literally)
...wait...

Maybe they could put a very clear clause in his contract.

Rey Dempsey comes to mind
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(04-06-2021 02:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 02:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 11:54 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.

He's still depressed that Tubby was doing such a great job and got fired.

Ok. So, I said I was done replying to anything you posted, but I'm going to break that rule one last time. Then, no more.

Listen here, you ignorant douche bag, for the 859th time...Tubby is a good person and a good basketball coach. That said, the fit at Memphis wasn't good and he had lost some of his fire. Couple that with the fact that he (nor the people who hired him) did their due diligence about what he was walking into. Being that you really don't know much about Memphis, I should probably cut you some slack on this point, but being that you are such an overbearing a$$hole, I won't.

The high school/AAU basketball scene in Memphis is a corrupt cesspool. And, that's putting it nicely. Tubby refused to kiss a$$ and break the rules. The only thing that might have saved his tenure would have been a former Tiger legend that was coaching high school at the time, since that person LOVES Memphis so much. But, his undying LOVE for Memphis didn't quite equal his own aspirations of being a head coach at his alma mater and he (along with the other HS/AAU "playas" in town) couldn't get rid of Tubby, fast enough.

I would go on, but I truly don't think you possess the intellectual honesty to do anything other than twist words and hurl insults. But yeah, I like Tubby and it sucks the way things played out. I'm really sorry that a nuanced view that opposes your sheer ignorance finds you replying to my every post and combing thru my posts from years gone by. But, it's not surprising, as you are clearly a monumental tool bag, who has nothing better to do with his day than to pick apart every post on a message board. Honestly, it's kinda sad and pathetic.

Peace out and F off.

Goodness, the language. You're so upsetted. 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

Quote:The only thing that might have saved his tenure would have been a former Tiger legend that was coaching high school at the time, since that person LOVES Memphis so much. But, his undying LOVE for Memphis didn't quite equal his own aspirations of being a head coach at his alma mater and he (along with the other HS/AAU "playas" in town) couldn't get rid of Tubby, fast enough.

Your whole post is so beyond insane; I'm going to do you a favour and just laugh at one part of it. Point form as always, to make it as simple as possible for slow learners.

- Tubby could have saved his tenure by not being a ******* lazy check cashing loser
- Tubby could have saved his tenure by letting daddy Lawson recruit all of the kids and DJ for him
- Tubby could have saved his tenure by signing any of the other hundreds of good players from the other 49 states
- Tubby could have saved his tenure by not going on vacation TWICE when we had 7 scholarship players on the roster

Last but not least, it would have been unconscionable for Penny to allow anyone he cares about to play for a lazy piece of **** has been like Tubby. I guarantee you that IF Shaka Smart, Gregg Marshall, Archie Miller, or anyone reputable was our coach, he would have tried to steer players here. You met Tubby and he didn't pull the elastic of your underpants over your head, so you love him. You hate Penny, we get it.

Only someone pathetic like you, is still defending Tubby. You need to have your head examined.

Stammers, why would you bring this Tubby business up again? You have to rehash stuff constantly, for years on end, just hoping to get in an argument so you can show a few dozen people how smart you are. ORUVOICE may bave a low IQ, especially related to Tubby, but there are worse things. You starting an argument for no reason is as predictable as that Alfonzo guy (or girl) calling someone a cuck, whatever that is.
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(04-06-2021 11:54 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(04-06-2021 09:47 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Drew is a very good coach.

Drew is also a scum bag and a cheat.

The two facts are not mutually exclusive.

I seem to remember another guy that used to coach in these parts that would fit that same description.

Please tell me you aren’t one of those types who wants a preacher to be a basketball coach.

I'll take a preacher, The devil himself, or whoever if they can win us a championship.
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(04-06-2021 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  No one else has hired him. You never even hear about him getting offers.

Yeah, I dunno. We haven't heard it, but he's gotten raises at Baylor.
And his son has had job offers - for better or worse.
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(04-06-2021 08:51 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Nobody would get on a coaches bandwagon if he promised to get to a Final Four in 18 years. That's how long it took.

In the grand scheme, 1 NC in 18 years ain't bad. Better than average for NC coaches. And it's a small fraternity too.

I'd sign up for Pastner or Tubby again if the guarantee was in year 18 we got a Natty.
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