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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-18-2021 08:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  I don’t understand how going back to the big east is a good thing for uconn... The big east isn’t the same anymore and never will be.

Is like Houston going back to the SWC but minus UT, Oklahoma and A&M not the same league anymore if you ask me.

because they don't care about football at all...they're fine playing an all body-bag game schedule.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-18-2021 09:04 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(04-18-2021 08:59 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  I don’t understand how going back to the big east is a good thing for uconn... The big east isn’t the same anymore and never will be.

Is like Houston going back to the SWC but minus UT, Oklahoma and A&M not the same league anymore if you ask me.

because they don't care about football at all...they're fine playing an all body-bag game schedule.

Or eventually moving back to FCS. Something to be said there when the MAC or Sunbelt won't expand to take them on as a FB only, and the AAC wouldn't let their FB program remain in the conference when the rest of UConn's sports programs were pulled out. Not enough value to expand a conference for them and not enough value to keep their FB program around as a FB only member in the AAC. 04-jawdrop 01-lauramac2 03-banghead 03-hissyfit 04-chairshot 05-mafia 04-cheers
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 12:40 PM)Enriquillo Wrote:  Oh, and it’s not 2001 anymore. Come check out Temple’s facilities. Clemson isn’t impressed, but UConn should be. And, unlike UConn, nobody schedules Temple for a “bodybag” game anymore either.

Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.




Does that thing have wheels under it? It reminds me of the shuttles at Dulles International.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 02:12 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  Impressed? I guess it depends who you ask. Here is a glimpse into UCONN's football locker room.




Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home. 04-jawdrop 07-coffee3

Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.

Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.

Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.
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UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-18-2021 08:39 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:  Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home. 04-jawdrop 07-coffee3

Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.

Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.

Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.


Short answer, yes. You will suck forever in football.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-18-2021 10:34 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(04-18-2021 08:39 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.

Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.

Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.


Short answer, yes. You will suck forever in football.

You sound so sure of yourself. Want to bet on this? Let's put money where your mouth is. Forever is a long time.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-18-2021 08:39 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 03:49 PM)panite Wrote:  Nice - Built with OBE and AAC money. Where does the money come from for up keep and to refurbish it down the road without conference money since UConn claims to be bleeding money with its football team especially when it was in the AAC and without last years revenue since the team sat home. 04-jawdrop 07-coffee3

Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.

Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.

Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.

Time will tell.
UConn’s move out of AAC to Big East was a basketball move, everyone knows that. They will be ok there basketball and Olympic sports wise.
Football will suffer which is why it asked to remain in AAC for football only, which was wisely turned down by the AAC. You guys will find out that being an independent now a days is very different, you have no access to NY6 bowls and if CFP expands you will also be shut out from that. UConn football is not BYU football, you do not have the support nor past history in football as BYU.
I think UConn football will have a tough time after a few years and the school will come to a big decision on how they will proceed.

I don’t wish UConn to fail in their move but im being honest on their situation it was a good move basketball wise , but a bad move football wise.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-18-2021 11:36 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-18-2021 10:34 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(04-18-2021 08:39 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.


Short answer, yes. You will suck forever in football.

You sound so sure of yourself. Want to bet on this? Let's put money where your mouth is. Forever is a long time.

Right! Army has won two national championships. By use of the geometric logic that they apparently teach in Storrs, we know that the Black Knights will win another one in short order!

Plus, what does “suck” mean exactly? (I googled the word “suck” and am shocked and disgusted by some of the possible meanings but, regardless, found no useful specificity.) I postulate that if the Huskies can beat Army some time in the next 30 years, then by definition they don’t “suck” because they will have defeated a team destined to win the national championship in a period of less than forever. (Related question: When the sun explodes and the galaxy turns to dust, would that end the “forever” term, or do we need to look at the expansion of the universe?)

Plus, no team with a state-of-the-art airport shuttle locker room could possibly “suck”. Not at that price!

Take the doubter’s money. Go Huskies!
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If UConn fans are really serious about wanting to beat Army, they're probably going to have to choose a new school mascot...

...I mean, what chance does a mild-mannered Siberian Husky have against a Black Knight?

Think about it...

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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-19-2021 08:50 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(04-18-2021 08:39 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 04:18 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Are you kidding?
UConn FB sitting out 2020 was GREAT for the UConn Athletic Department.
Erase most of a $10 million dollar annual deficit. Double check that - Edsall's contract probably has a bonus for cancelled seasons.
But we all know that $10million annual shortfall isn't going anywhere with upcoming seasons having travel to Fresno, Logan UT, and Muncie IN, and home games vs MTSU, FIU, Georgia State, etc.

Cancelling football in 2020 was like a tourniquet when a Husky has it's paw in a bear trap of it's own making.

Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.

Time will tell.
UConn’s move out of AAC to Big East was a basketball move, everyone knows that. They will be ok there basketball and Olympic sports wise.
Football will suffer which is why it asked to remain in AAC for football only, which was wisely turned down by the AAC. You guys will find out that being an independent now a days is very different, you have no access to NY6 bowls and if CFP expands you will also be shut out from that. UConn football is not BYU football, you do not have the support nor past history in football as BYU.
I think UConn football will have a tough time after a few years and the school will come to a big decision on how they will proceed.

I don’t wish UConn to fail in their move but im being honest on their situation it was a good move basketball wise , but a bad move football wise.

I think independence tracks with UConn’s football goals. It’s not about making it to a NY6 bowl for them (even if that would be nice). Ultimately, if UConn can play more (a) P5 opponents and/or (b) regional Eastern teams compared to an AAC schedule, then that’s a net positive. I actually think they’re doing a much better job than I expected putting together schedules that address both of those desires even with a limited timeframe. They’ve got series with BC and Syracuse on top of Army and UMass, they’re playing multiple P5 teams every year (including home games), and they still sprinkle in AAC opponents like Temple and Houston. It’s sort of an Eastern version of BYU’s scheduling philosophy (albeit BYU has always had more leverage to get home-and-home series with P5 teams with their ESPN contact and large ticket buying fan base).

Let’s put it this way: a school may have a better shot moving up in the pecking order by being an independent than in a G5 league at this point. There’s simply not going to be a “P6” - period. Big East basketball honestly has more built-in capital with the P5 than any of the of G5 conferences, so UConn’s move looks pretty rational to me.

Think of it this way: if Houston could (a) join the Big East for basketball and (b) schedule 5 or 6 P5 teams per year as an independent in football, would it take that deal? Put anyone else in that position: UCF, Memphis, Cincinnati, etc. I don’t know if that would be the right call in each case, but I think each school would have to think about it long and hard. Expecting to get either a P5 invite or expecting the AAC to move to the power level isn’t likely going to be fruitful, so there isn’t really any other alternative to change the status quo.
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(04-19-2021 08:52 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(04-19-2021 08:50 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(04-18-2021 08:39 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-16-2021 06:11 PM)Agust Wrote:  Their goal is to cancel next season also but you know..for players safety.

Joking aside what they did and will do to their football program is a shame. Those guys and the alumni deserve better. It's only a matter of time before they go fcs or just get rid of it. All because of over spending and incompetent administration.

No use trying to butter it up or play make believe.

I do disagree that UConn is destined for FCS.
And I say that from the perspective of a fan of a successful independent football program.
Independent Navy football had a lot of advantages 15-20 years ago that UConn doesn't. Period. But UConn does have name recognition, generally as a state flagship school and specifically as a MBB brand and a WBB super-brand. That branding does translate to a certain extent.
I actually like the scheduling philosophy of getting football home-and-homes with basketball-centric P5s -- Duke, Wake, NCSU, UNC. It's not terrible.
Bowls aren't really an issue with UConn football (independent 1-year bowl deals and then averaging 15,000+ official ticket sales was a big positive feedback loop for Navy's successful independence).

And overall, strategically, the move to the Big East was the right strategic move for the institution. Football will just be a loss leader. That football deficit will remain, but it will be a loss relative to their overall gain of returning to their Big East basketball focus.
Husky fans will talk about Syracuse, BC, Rutgers series filling the Rent, but I only see like two of those. Long-term series with Army is a win, but not going to fix the deficit. Football games against basketball names will be meh, and will not offset the MTSU, FIU, etc games.
And that's okay for them, I guess.

If football can get a couple wins against that schedule rather than zero wins against the AAC, then maybe just maybe Big East MBB, fading WBB, and a life support FBS program that isn't a perennial 0-8 in the AAC just might keep the chance of ACC or Big10 bid some decimal dust above zero. (and their Big East buddies in Omaha and Mikwaukee have no illusions that UConn wouldn't drop them like a hot rock if that snowball's chance came up).

I think UConn can avoid dropping to FCS and muddle along at the level of UMass or NMSU. And overall, they made the right move to Big East MBB.

You really think UCONN only schedule other basketball FB schools? UCONN scheduled those schools because it is easy travel for both schools. UCONN is also scheduling FLA schools. Also, UCONN will be schedule TX schools due to recruiting. There is no set agenda to schedule just basketball P5 schools.

You also act like UCONN will suck forever. UCONN has won 2 BE championships before in football. This is before the AAC. During the AAC, UCONN had horrible FB coaches. With the kind of support from the state and the school, do you honestly think UCONN will suck forever in FB?

For all of the ones who keep wishing UCONN will go FCS, sorry it won't happen for a long long time.

Time will tell.
UConn’s move out of AAC to Big East was a basketball move, everyone knows that. They will be ok there basketball and Olympic sports wise.
Football will suffer which is why it asked to remain in AAC for football only, which was wisely turned down by the AAC. You guys will find out that being an independent now a days is very different, you have no access to NY6 bowls and if CFP expands you will also be shut out from that. UConn football is not BYU football, you do not have the support nor past history in football as BYU.
I think UConn football will have a tough time after a few years and the school will come to a big decision on how they will proceed.

I don’t wish UConn to fail in their move but im being honest on their situation it was a good move basketball wise , but a bad move football wise.

I think independence tracks with UConn’s football goals. It’s not about making it to a NY6 bowl for them (even if that would be nice). Ultimately, if UConn can play more (a) P5 opponents and/or (b) regional Eastern teams compared to an AAC schedule, then that’s a net positive. I actually think they’re doing a much better job than I expected putting together schedules that address both of those desires even with a limited timeframe. They’ve got series with BC and Syracuse on top of Army and UMass, they’re playing multiple P5 teams every year (including home games), and they still sprinkle in AAC opponents like Temple and Houston. It’s sort of an Eastern version of BYU’s scheduling philosophy (albeit BYU has always had more leverage to get home-and-home series with P5 teams with their ESPN contact and large ticket buying fan base).

Let’s put it this way: a school may have a better shot moving up in the pecking order by being an independent than in a G5 league at this point. There’s simply not going to be a “P6” - period. Big East basketball honestly has more built-in capital with the P5 than any of the of G5 conferences, so UConn’s move looks pretty rational to me.

Think of it this way: if Houston could (a) join the Big East for basketball and (b) schedule 5 or 6 P5 teams per year as an independent in football, would it take that deal? Put anyone else in that position: UCF, Memphis, Cincinnati, etc. I don’t know if that would be the right call in each case, but I think each school would have to think about it long and hard. Expecting to get either a P5 invite or expecting the AAC to move to the power level isn’t likely going to be fruitful, so there isn’t really any other alternative to change the status quo.

Maybe - - or maybe not. We'll see whether UConn just plays a lot of body bag games and loses most of them - - inspiring little attendance or viewership.

That's the downside of going independent. Not every school has a guaranteed football-crazy fanbase, like BYU has. In fact, very few do.

Thinking of BYU in particular, they haven't been as successful in FB as Boise has been, and the only unique thing Boise has going for them is that they're in a pretty good conference.


Some schools have tried going independent, and it hasn't gone well...
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Houston has gone to the NY6 and Final Four being in the AAC no need to take a step back in a half league... And plus the AAC is building it’s equity up quite nicely too... The AAC is just fine for Houston.
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UConn and the Big Ten mentioned in the same sentence 03-lmfao 03-banghead
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(04-02-2021 11:09 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  With unexpected losses in tournament play for both men's and women's BB teams, UConn may have made a foolish choice in leaving the AAC. So far, dashing to the New Big East has not paid off for BB. And football has yet to start as an independent. It is likely to be a bumpy road.

Wow 14 pages and 273 posts on a UConn thread on the AAC board for a school that left the AAC in the dust more than a year ago. Anyway getting back to the original post - how has UConn dashing off to the NBE not paid off. UConn made the NCAA Tournament with a 15 and 8 record that would have buried any other school in the G5 category, while a 20 & 8 AAC Memphis team was sent to the NIT. 04-jawdrop 03-nutkick 05-deadhorse 03-shhhh 03-yawn 04-cheers
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UConn is where it needs to be. It is good for them in BB, and Football doesn't matter.
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(04-22-2021 09:45 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  UConn is where it needs to be. It is good for them in BB, and Football doesn't matter.

Agree with this. 07-coffee3
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