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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-12-2021 11:56 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 09:44 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-11-2021 10:45 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  https://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article/Rep...210485.php

Quotes from the article:

Quote:When the Atlantic Coast Conference decided to expand to 14 teams, going after the Big East specifically, Syracuse was the first target. The second target was UConn, which was part of the Northeast footprint the ACC wanted, and was coming off a BCS bid in football and its third championship in men's basketball, according to a story in Sunday's Boston Globe.

While Syracuse presented no problem, according to the Globe, UConn did -- to Boston College, which was still fuming over what it perceived to be vitriolic comments made when Boston College was finally invited to join the ACC and started competing in 2005. UConn and Pittsburgh filed a lawsuit against Boston College, and men's basketball coach Jim Calhoun made comments about never playing Boston College again.

Boston College athletics director Gene DeFilippo told the Globe that the school opposed the inclusion of UConn.

"We didn't want them in,'' he told the Globe. "It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.''

I came here to congratulate Houston and the AAC on a nice run, and to praise the future of American Athletic basketball... I didn't know I was going to run into a conspiracy theory worthy of Q-Anon!
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1st, no surprise that a Connecticut-based web site says UConn was one of the ACC's top targets. What they (and so many others) don't seem to understand is that football counts 4X more than basketball. UConn was never preferred over Miami, VT, BC or Pitt, probably not over Syracuse or Louisville either. It's a football world, and the P5 conferences just let basketball live in it.

That said, great run, Houston! I feel like the AAC will eventually eclipse the Big East in basketball. Then you'll have to decide whether to let UConn back in...
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Didn't want to keep going with this, but you are certainly clueless. The story wasn't from a CT newspaper, it was in the Boston Globe ......

Seriously, dude, what's the difference. It's all Northeast. 07-coffee3
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-12-2021 09:44 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-11-2021 10:45 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  https://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article/Rep...210485.php

Quotes from the article:

Quote:When the Atlantic Coast Conference decided to expand to 14 teams, going after the Big East specifically, Syracuse was the first target. The second target was UConn, which was part of the Northeast footprint the ACC wanted, and was coming off a BCS bid in football and its third championship in men's basketball, according to a story in Sunday's Boston Globe.

While Syracuse presented no problem, according to the Globe, UConn did -- to Boston College, which was still fuming over what it perceived to be vitriolic comments made when Boston College was finally invited to join the ACC and started competing in 2005. UConn and Pittsburgh filed a lawsuit against Boston College, and men's basketball coach Jim Calhoun made comments about never playing Boston College again.

Boston College athletics director Gene DeFilippo told the Globe that the school opposed the inclusion of UConn.

"We didn't want them in,'' he told the Globe. "It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.''

I came here to congratulate Houston and the AAC on a nice run, and to praise the future of American Athletic basketball... I didn't know I was going to run into a conspiracy theory worthy of Q-Anon!
04-jawdrop

1st, no surprise that a Connecticut-based web site says UConn was one of the ACC's top targets. What they (and so many others) don't seem to understand is that football counts 4X more than basketball. UConn was never preferred over Miami, VT, BC or Pitt, probably not over Syracuse or Louisville either. It's a football world, and the P5 conferences just let basketball live in it.

That said, great run, Houston! I feel like the AAC will eventually eclipse the Big East in basketball. Then you'll have to decide whether to let UConn back in...
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I don't think UCONN could get in today's AAC. As you state, football rules.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
This just got posted about UCONN's independent football scheduling.

https://www.theuconnblog.com/2021/4/12/2...good-shape

Basically, UCONN is almost on par with BYU as far as scheduling with P5s despite short notice and a late start.

Also, I was not aware all UCONN away games will be on CBS Sports Network where the channel will cover all production costs while paying UCONN around $100K per game. UCONN also has a separate football media deal with SNY, but I don't have any information on the payout amount.

So, for those of you that keep yapping about UCONN going to FCS, it isn't going to happen anytime soon. As a UCONN football fan, I think the new schedule is rather interesting. I am sure once UCONN can win and bring back fans, there will be a much better media deal ahead as well.

From the article:

Quote:There are currently six FBS independent football teams aside from Notre Dame: Army, BYU, Liberty, New Mexico State, UConn and UMass. Of these six, Benedict has already put the Huskies at the front of the pack when it comes to scheduling power 5 games, especially getting power 5 games at home.

FBS Independent Football Schedules (2022-2031)
School Total Games Power 5 Games Home Power 5 Games Power 5 Percent Home Power 5 Percent
Army 85 14 5 16.5% 35.7%
BYU 65 28 14 43.1% 50.0%
Liberty 74 20 7 27.0% 35.0%
New Mexico State 45 5 0 11.1% 0.0%
UMass 57 11 1 19.3% 9.1%
UConn 55 20 9 36.4% 45.0%
Over the next decade (between 2022 and 2031), UConn has now signed a contract on 55 of the 120 games they’re going to play following the news of the home-and-home against Florida Atlantic. This is the fifth-highest total, with the Huskies only ahead of New Mexico State (45). Despite this room for improvement, they are in a tie for the second-highest total of Power 5 games on the docket with Liberty at 20 games, even though Liberty has committed to 74 total games at this time.

So far, out of those 20 Power 5 games, nine of them will be home games for UConn. This is better than each of the non-BYU independents and a large improvement from its closest geographic and institutional contemporary in UMass, which has only been able to agree to one home contest out of 11 against Power 5 competition.

So the 2021 home schedule is solid though not incredibly exciting. But once we get into 2022, the home slate includes both Syracuse and Boston College, as well as road games against Michigan and NC State. The following year features visits to Boston College and Tennessee while Duke and NC State will come to Rentschler Field. Call me crazy, but I think that’s going to move the needle quite a bit.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
What’s the point of a great schedule if you don’t get to play any games like in 2020 or you can’t win any games like well, normal UConn football?
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
I hope UConnBlog sent a thank you note to FBSchedules and Amy Daughters.
https://fbschedules.com/which-conference...ince-2017/
(I had stumbled across that one in the discussion around UConn's nine home-and-homes with non-contract-bowl conferences)

And for those of us who DON'T think UConn is headed for FCS, but who DO think that UConn's football $ deficit won't get any smaller as an independent, there is zero news in that article. Those are the schedules that we were breaking down in earlier posts.
(e.g. https://csnbbs.com/thread-920001-post-17...id17368539 )

And this has the usual UConn spin. Compares Army&UMass travel to travel to Tulsa/ECU rather than Navy/Temple.
Bemoans AAC schedule as games Husky fans don't care about but touts "a constantly changing mix of teams from far-flung places" like Fresno State and San Jose State...without mentioning the travel TO Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State.

Same old same old self delusion.

But hey, you've convinced yourselves to be happy.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-12-2021 12:13 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 11:56 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 09:44 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-11-2021 10:45 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  https://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article/Rep...210485.php

Quotes from the article:

Quote:When the Atlantic Coast Conference decided to expand to 14 teams, going after the Big East specifically, Syracuse was the first target. The second target was UConn, which was part of the Northeast footprint the ACC wanted, and was coming off a BCS bid in football and its third championship in men's basketball, according to a story in Sunday's Boston Globe.

While Syracuse presented no problem, according to the Globe, UConn did -- to Boston College, which was still fuming over what it perceived to be vitriolic comments made when Boston College was finally invited to join the ACC and started competing in 2005. UConn and Pittsburgh filed a lawsuit against Boston College, and men's basketball coach Jim Calhoun made comments about never playing Boston College again.

Boston College athletics director Gene DeFilippo told the Globe that the school opposed the inclusion of UConn.

"We didn't want them in,'' he told the Globe. "It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.''

I came here to congratulate Houston and the AAC on a nice run, and to praise the future of American Athletic basketball... I didn't know I was going to run into a conspiracy theory worthy of Q-Anon!
04-jawdrop

1st, no surprise that a Connecticut-based web site says UConn was one of the ACC's top targets. What they (and so many others) don't seem to understand is that football counts 4X more than basketball. UConn was never preferred over Miami, VT, BC or Pitt, probably not over Syracuse or Louisville either. It's a football world, and the P5 conferences just let basketball live in it.

That said, great run, Houston! I feel like the AAC will eventually eclipse the Big East in basketball. Then you'll have to decide whether to let UConn back in...
07-coffee3

Didn't want to keep going with this, but you are certainly clueless. The story wasn't from a CT newspaper, it was in the Boston Globe ......

Seriously, dude, what's the difference. It's all Northeast. 07-coffee3

Geo, between you and me, its actually all New England.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-12-2021 03:21 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 12:13 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 11:56 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 09:44 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-11-2021 10:45 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  https://www.ctpost.com/uconn/article/Rep...210485.php

Quotes from the article:

I came here to congratulate Houston and the AAC on a nice run, and to praise the future of American Athletic basketball... I didn't know I was going to run into a conspiracy theory worthy of Q-Anon!
04-jawdrop

1st, no surprise that a Connecticut-based web site says UConn was one of the ACC's top targets. What they (and so many others) don't seem to understand is that football counts 4X more than basketball. UConn was never preferred over Miami, VT, BC or Pitt, probably not over Syracuse or Louisville either. It's a football world, and the P5 conferences just let basketball live in it.

That said, great run, Houston! I feel like the AAC will eventually eclipse the Big East in basketball. Then you'll have to decide whether to let UConn back in...
07-coffee3

Didn't want to keep going with this, but you are certainly clueless. The story wasn't from a CT newspaper, it was in the Boston Globe ......

Seriously, dude, what's the difference. It's all Northeast. 07-coffee3

Geo, between you and me, its actually all New England.

Yeah, I thought about going back and changing it to that, but I was just gonna wait for his (her?) inane response so that I could point out it would LITTERALLY take me TWICE as long to drive from Memphis to Nashville than it would to drive from the center of Connecticut to Boston MA. And Memphis to Nashville is way less than half the distance to the East end of Tennessee. Once you get above and to the East of the city of New York, I really don't see any difference.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-12-2021 01:25 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  This just got posted about UCONN's independent football scheduling.

https://www.theuconnblog.com/2021/4/12/2...good-shape

Basically, UCONN is almost on par with BYU as far as scheduling with P5s despite short notice and a late start.

Also, I was not aware all UCONN away games will be on CBS Sports Network where the channel will cover all production costs while paying UCONN around $100K per game. UCONN also has a separate football media deal with SNY, but I don't have any information on the payout amount.

So, for those of you that keep yapping about UCONN going to FCS, it isn't going to happen anytime soon. As a UCONN football fan, I think the new schedule is rather interesting. I am sure once UCONN can win and bring back fans, there will be a much better media deal ahead as well.

From the article:

Quote:There are currently six FBS independent football teams aside from Notre Dame: Army, BYU, Liberty, New Mexico State, UConn and UMass. Of these six, Benedict has already put the Huskies at the front of the pack when it comes to scheduling power 5 games, especially getting power 5 games at home.

FBS Independent Football Schedules (2022-2031)
School Total Games Power 5 Games Home Power 5 Games Power 5 Percent Home Power 5 Percent
Army 85 14 5 16.5% 35.7%
BYU 65 28 14 43.1% 50.0%
Liberty 74 20 7 27.0% 35.0%
New Mexico State 45 5 0 11.1% 0.0%
UMass 57 11 1 19.3% 9.1%
UConn 55 20 9 36.4% 45.0%
Over the next decade (between 2022 and 2031), UConn has now signed a contract on 55 of the 120 games they’re going to play following the news of the home-and-home against Florida Atlantic. This is the fifth-highest total, with the Huskies only ahead of New Mexico State (45). Despite this room for improvement, they are in a tie for the second-highest total of Power 5 games on the docket with Liberty at 20 games, even though Liberty has committed to 74 total games at this time.

So far, out of those 20 Power 5 games, nine of them will be home games for UConn. This is better than each of the non-BYU independents and a large improvement from its closest geographic and institutional contemporary in UMass, which has only been able to agree to one home contest out of 11 against Power 5 competition.

So the 2021 home schedule is solid though not incredibly exciting. But once we get into 2022, the home slate includes both Syracuse and Boston College, as well as road games against Michigan and NC State. The following year features visits to Boston College and Tennessee while Duke and NC State will come to Rentschler Field. Call me crazy, but I think that’s going to move the needle quite a bit.

Nice. Go 10-2 or better for 6 years in a row and we might consider your re-admittance to the AAC. Football rules.
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(04-13-2021 10:39 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 01:25 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  This just got posted about UCONN's independent football scheduling.

https://www.theuconnblog.com/2021/4/12/2...good-shape

Basically, UCONN is almost on par with BYU as far as scheduling with P5s despite short notice and a late start.

Also, I was not aware all UCONN away games will be on CBS Sports Network where the channel will cover all production costs while paying UCONN around $100K per game. UCONN also has a separate football media deal with SNY, but I don't have any information on the payout amount.

So, for those of you that keep yapping about UCONN going to FCS, it isn't going to happen anytime soon. As a UCONN football fan, I think the new schedule is rather interesting. I am sure once UCONN can win and bring back fans, there will be a much better media deal ahead as well.

From the article:

Quote:There are currently six FBS independent football teams aside from Notre Dame: Army, BYU, Liberty, New Mexico State, UConn and UMass. Of these six, Benedict has already put the Huskies at the front of the pack when it comes to scheduling power 5 games, especially getting power 5 games at home.

FBS Independent Football Schedules (2022-2031)
School Total Games Power 5 Games Home Power 5 Games Power 5 Percent Home Power 5 Percent
Army 85 14 5 16.5% 35.7%
BYU 65 28 14 43.1% 50.0%
Liberty 74 20 7 27.0% 35.0%
New Mexico State 45 5 0 11.1% 0.0%
UMass 57 11 1 19.3% 9.1%
UConn 55 20 9 36.4% 45.0%
Over the next decade (between 2022 and 2031), UConn has now signed a contract on 55 of the 120 games they’re going to play following the news of the home-and-home against Florida Atlantic. This is the fifth-highest total, with the Huskies only ahead of New Mexico State (45). Despite this room for improvement, they are in a tie for the second-highest total of Power 5 games on the docket with Liberty at 20 games, even though Liberty has committed to 74 total games at this time.

So far, out of those 20 Power 5 games, nine of them will be home games for UConn. This is better than each of the non-BYU independents and a large improvement from its closest geographic and institutional contemporary in UMass, which has only been able to agree to one home contest out of 11 against Power 5 competition.

So the 2021 home schedule is solid though not incredibly exciting. But once we get into 2022, the home slate includes both Syracuse and Boston College, as well as road games against Michigan and NC State. The following year features visits to Boston College and Tennessee while Duke and NC State will come to Rentschler Field. Call me crazy, but I think that’s going to move the needle quite a bit.

Nice. Go 10-2 or better for 6 years in a row and we might consider your re-admittance to the AAC. Football rules.

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Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.

You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.

Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.
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(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.

You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.

Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.

Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.

The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.
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UConn being is same league as BYU is a joke. I see what they are selling but just because you get NE schools in P5 does not mean much IMO. I would not schedule UCONN evenly but would gladly do that for BYU. Also like every contract, it is only as good as the terms.

UCONN better pray Edsall sticks around bc he is about as good as Conn can afford/get.
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(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  [quote='The Grape King' pid='17381436' dateline='1618334263']
Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.

You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.

Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.

(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.

What you "remember" are things that happened 15 or 20 years ago. That's ancient history at this point!

(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles.

It's laughable all right, but not for the reason you think. Temple has had a lot more FB success, including a championship and several bowl games, than UConn has had since 2014. UConn plays in a modest, bleacher-style collegiate stadium. Temple plays in one of the better NFL stadiums in the country with excellent facilities, great tail-gating opportunities, and what has been described by some as kennebunkport-style seating.

(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning.

More ancient history...

(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.

Temple may need a new HC. We'll find out soon enough, but Temple is in a much better position as a member of a strong football conference than most of the independent teams.
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(04-13-2021 01:57 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  
(04-13-2021 12:17 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Temple did the same thing when it got booted from the Big East, scheduled big time programs the two years as an independent. They went 1-22 in 2005 and 2006, playing teams like Louisville, Penn State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Miami. They lost 62-0 back to back weeks one year. I wasn't around in those days, but the sense I get from older Temple folks was that those were the darkest days of the football program that was on the verge of being axed before the move to the MAC and the hiring of Al Golden.

You can compare schedules to BYU all you want, UConn isn't BYU. They're gonna schedule body bag games until either someone let's them in as a football only, whether it's FBS or FCS, or until they cut their losses and can football completely. For a school that already doesn't care about football, dumping money into a program that's winning one or two games a year and getting thumped by P5s on a regular basis is gonna get old very quick.

Why would you even want to maintain FBS status at that point? How is it better as a fan or for the school to lose double figure games every year as an FBS independent instead of heading to the Colonial and playing competitive(ish) football? UConn is playing for nothing as things stand now. I'd be much more inclined to support TU football as an FCS program than I would've been in those independent years. Spin it however you want. We've been there and done that with the big time independent schedule, and it almost cost Temple its program.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I remember Temple in the Big East very well. Temple was a dump. Your administration did nothing for the football program. Temple was kicked out of the Big East cause it did no investment into the program while collecting Big East payouts.

Comparing UCONN to Temple is simply laughable. UCONN has top-notch football facilities while Temple does not, and it has a stadium dedicated to its football program while Temple rents from the Eagles. Also, UCONN has made plenty of investment into the program while Temple didn't. While Temple never drew fans, UCONN sold out its stadium many times when it was winning. UCONN also won multiple Big East championships in football before, so please don't compare where Temple was even with UCONN today.

The only thing UCONN needs to do today is winning some games. Edsall won at UCONN before, but whether he is the right coach is still debatable. All we do know is UCONN hired two horrible coaches (Coach P and Diaco) that set the program back multiple years. Can Edsall recover? It is hard to say, but he has won here before. Once UCONN can win again, there is little doubt CT fans will come back especially with the new indy schedule.

Every time this dude says “UConn”, he really means “Bama”. Look at Grape Kings sig: UConns last American game was a 57-7 ash whoopin by that same Temple team you claim to be so superior to and that drove you from the conference. The HC was Edsall. But now you’re going to start winning P5 games? Because all of this 4 and 5 star football talent was standing around saying if only UConn was not in the American I would go there?
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 03:13 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  UConn being is same league as BYU is a joke. I see what they are selling but just because you get NE schools in P5 does not mean much IMO. I would not schedule UCONN evenly but would gladly do that for BYU. Also like every contract, it is only as good as the terms.

UCONN better pray Edsall sticks around bc he is about as good as Conn can afford/get.

Didn't want to keep this thread going but the amount of disinformation here is just too much.

Edsall is all UCONN can afford? Diaco was making over $2M per year before he left. UCONN bball coach is making over $3M per year while the women's bball coach is making $2.4M a year. I am pretty sure UCONN can afford to pay a coach in a similar ballpark if needed. Edsall and UCONN made a mutually beneficial deal. If Edsall does not work out, I am sure UCONN can afford to get another coach at the market rate.

UCONN always had a P5 athletic budget despite being in the AAC. If a school like Temple with its lack of budget can succeed in football, do you honestly think UCONN can't when it has far better resources?
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I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 05:02 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.

UCF is paying UConn a cool million. Edsall’s salary is like 1.2 million, so that game alone practically pays his salary. Thanks!

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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
(04-13-2021 05:43 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  
(04-13-2021 05:02 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.

UCF is paying UConn a cool million. Edsall’s salary is like 1.2 million, so that game alone practically pays his salary. Thanks!

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I was going to come back with a "How much is UConn paying Houston?" but in looking for that, found some other interesting info...

From the Vanderbilt 247 site (some interesting pieces bolded):
Quote:Vanderbilt announced a change to its 2021 football schedule on Wednesday, as the Commodores will no longer host Houston on Oct. 2. Instead, Connecticut will replace the Cougars on Vanderbilt’s schedule — the game will also take place on Oct. 2, according to a copy of the contract obtained by Vandy247 from the University of Connecticut via open records laws.

The game will not be part of a series and is instead a one-off matchup. But according to the contract, Vanderbilt will not pay UConn to come to Nashville. Opponents for nonconference "buy games" typically receive substantial payments that sometimes exceed $1 million. The contract was signed on July 14 and the buyout for the game will be $1 million.

UConn will join East Tennessee State, Colorado State and Stanford on Vanderbilt’s 2021 nonconference schedule, while Mississippi State will be the Commodores’ rotating SEC opponent. SEC teams are required to play at least one nonconference opponent from the Power Five conferences or the American Athletic Conference, which Houston satisfied when the series was scheduled. Vanderbilt then added Stanford and thus could replace Houston with any FBS opponent.

An impressive part of Benedict's work on the 2020 schedule was wheeling and dealing to get teams to cancel games, then scheduling both of them. Creative, and at the end of the day, effective. Built something from nothing. Didn't help the football deficit, but then canceling the 2020 season saved the department some money.

Then UConn not getting a payday from Vandy.
Is Houston getting paid twice for this? Buyout from the 'Dores, and buy game from the Huskies?

Then the note I hadn't seen before -- AAC opponents satisfy the SEC internal requirement for a power opponent among the four OOC games. (A quick review - the contract-bowl conferences having these rules for OOC scheduling are about providing their tv partners more content of quality and fewer duds against the little sisters of the poor. The SEC stayed at eight conference games, because several teams have in-state rivalry games vs ACC that are hard enough, but this rule brings the others to a level playing field. Of course they all still play an FCS opponent; UF recently played two FCS opponents in a season, looking like Army, ha ha.) UConn then becomes "any FBS opponent."

https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt...149421569/
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RE: UConn Needs To Review Its Move to the New Big East
This was such a nonsense troll post and every bought into it hook line and sinker, up to 12 pages. It made sense for Uconn to leave, and they did. It’s over. I love the aac, but for uconn basketball drives the ship and their regional network only has good basketball. It also made sense for the aac. The end
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(04-13-2021 06:24 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(04-13-2021 05:43 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  
(04-13-2021 05:02 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I said afford.. UCONN had a 42M deficit bc you can't support an AAC required lifestyle. I hope UCF is not paying UCONN more than FCS bc that's our fan's interest in UCONN. Heck HBCU would bring more interest and a good halftime show.

UCF is paying UConn a cool million. Edsall’s salary is like 1.2 million, so that game alone practically pays his salary. Thanks!

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I was going to come back with a "How much is UConn paying Houston?" but in looking for that, found some other interesting info...

From the Vanderbilt 247 site (some interesting pieces bolded):
Quote:Vanderbilt announced a change to its 2021 football schedule on Wednesday, as the Commodores will no longer host Houston on Oct. 2. Instead, Connecticut will replace the Cougars on Vanderbilt’s schedule — the game will also take place on Oct. 2, according to a copy of the contract obtained by Vandy247 from the University of Connecticut via open records laws.

The game will not be part of a series and is instead a one-off matchup. But according to the contract, Vanderbilt will not pay UConn to come to Nashville. Opponents for nonconference "buy games" typically receive substantial payments that sometimes exceed $1 million. The contract was signed on July 14 and the buyout for the game will be $1 million.

UConn will join East Tennessee State, Colorado State and Stanford on Vanderbilt’s 2021 nonconference schedule, while Mississippi State will be the Commodores’ rotating SEC opponent. SEC teams are required to play at least one nonconference opponent from the Power Five conferences or the American Athletic Conference, which Houston satisfied when the series was scheduled. Vanderbilt then added Stanford and thus could replace Houston with any FBS opponent.

An impressive part of Benedict's work on the 2020 schedule was wheeling and dealing to get teams to cancel games, then scheduling both of them. Creative, and at the end of the day, effective. Built something from nothing. Didn't help the football deficit, but then canceling the 2020 season saved the department some money.

Then UConn not getting a payday from Vandy.
Is Houston getting paid twice for this? Buyout from the 'Dores, and buy game from the Huskies?

Then the note I hadn't seen before -- AAC opponents satisfy the SEC internal requirement for a power opponent among the four OOC games. (A quick review - the contract-bowl conferences having these rules for OOC scheduling are about providing their tv partners more content of quality and fewer duds against the little sisters of the poor. The SEC stayed at eight conference games, because several teams have in-state rivalry games vs ACC that are hard enough, but this rule brings the others to a level playing field. Of course they all still play an FCS opponent; UF recently played two FCS opponents in a season, looking like Army, ha ha.) UConn then becomes "any FBS opponent."

https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt...149421569/

It seems to me that Houston will get to keep the $1mm from Vandy, UConn won’t get paid at all for their game at Vandy, and UConn won’t pay Houston anything for the game at Rentschler since they already received that $1mm from Vandy. So, UConn takes a $1mm hit on the Vandy game, but it is partially offset by not paying Houston to come to Connecticut.

It gives Vandy an easier win playing UConn, Houston an easier game against UConn instead of Vandy, and UConn two good games in the first year of Indy scheduling. Getting this done at all for UConn’s schedule on such short notice was a win on our part and it works well for Vandy and Houston as well.
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