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Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.
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(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.


Ideally, the Big East needs at least one of the following three in the top 25 most years: Marquette, Georgetown, St. John's.

To see the Hoya program so mediocre under Big Pat ... not good.
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Free Chick Fil-A for the Dunkin Donuts Center attendees today after Alexander misses two consecutive FTs. Epic crowd reaction haha.
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(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.

This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.
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great announcement-

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(01-08-2022 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.

This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.


Couldn't believe it earlier when I checked their NET and saw they were 200+... Didn't think I would ever see a Big East team that low. Even DePaul seems to bottom out around 160-180 in their worst years
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(01-08-2022 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.

This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.


Couldn't believe it earlier when I checked their NET and saw they were 200+... Didn't think I would ever see a Big East team that low. Even DePaul seems to bottom out around 160-180 in their worst years

Yeah good point...

And would say that right now, Georgetown is even lower in RPI- #235 than they are NET #212.

And Butler isn't exactly much stronger. They were #141 in NET going into tonight and they lost by 17. They look like they could be in that 160-180 range end of the year.
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(01-18-2022 11:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 09:11 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.

This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.


Couldn't believe it earlier when I checked their NET and saw they were 200+... Didn't think I would ever see a Big East team that low. Even DePaul seems to bottom out around 160-180 in their worst years

Yeah good point...

And would say that right now, Georgetown is even lower in RPI- #235 than they are NET #212.

And Butler isn't exactly much stronger. They were #141 in NET going into tonight and they lost by 17. They look like they could be in that 160-180 range end of the year.

I mean no disrespect to Butler or their players in saying this... But watching the game last night, they looked like a mid major program. Not even necessarily talent wise, but more so in terms of size, length and athleticism. A lot of their guys just looked small and seemed to be average athletes at best. Have they been recruiting poorly in recent years? I haven't really followed
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RE: The Big East for the 2021-22 season
(Yesterday 05:25 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 11:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 09:11 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.

This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.


Couldn't believe it earlier when I checked their NET and saw they were 200+... Didn't think I would ever see a Big East team that low. Even DePaul seems to bottom out around 160-180 in their worst years

Yeah good point...

And would say that right now, Georgetown is even lower in RPI- #235 than they are NET #212.

And Butler isn't exactly much stronger. They were #141 in NET going into tonight and they lost by 17. They look like they could be in that 160-180 range end of the year.

I mean no disrespect to Butler or their players in saying this... But watching the game last night, they looked like a mid major program. Not even necessarily talent wise, but more so in terms of size, length and athleticism. A lot of their guys just looked small and seemed to be average athletes at best. Have they been recruiting poorly in recent years? I haven't really followed
sadly I agree with you. It's not that they're losing, but just not competitive at all. 8 losses this year- halftime score average is 23.6-37.3. No game closer than 8 points at halftime this year. 1st 10 minutes the average score is almost entirely like last night- 10.9-18.5.

Looked like a 4/13 type of NCAA game. Now some of that is UConn is freakishly long but still. Butler is the shortest team according to KP in the BE. 0.3" smaller per person than everyone else. And also only the 8th most experience in the conference this year- better than just Creighton, Georgetown, and Marquette.
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RE: The Big East for the 2021-22 season
(Yesterday 05:25 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 11:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 09:11 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 12:30 PM)kmdhoya Wrote:  Georgetown now has a KenPom ranking of 129 (worst in school history). The fanbase is growing restless.

This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.


Couldn't believe it earlier when I checked their NET and saw they were 200+... Didn't think I would ever see a Big East team that low. Even DePaul seems to bottom out around 160-180 in their worst years

Yeah good point...

And would say that right now, Georgetown is even lower in RPI- #235 than they are NET #212.

And Butler isn't exactly much stronger. They were #141 in NET going into tonight and they lost by 17. They look like they could be in that 160-180 range end of the year.

I mean no disrespect to Butler or their players in saying this... But watching the game last night, they looked like a mid major program. Not even necessarily talent wise, but more so in terms of size, length and athleticism. A lot of their guys just looked small and seemed to be average athletes at best. Have they been recruiting poorly in recent years? I haven't really followed


Part of the Butler hoops' problem/challenge is that the program is perceived as the "fourth best/most influential" in Indiana behind (in no particular order) Notre Dame, Purdue and Indiana. As such, Butler men's basketball is the only Big East program that is not viewed as one of the "three best" in its state.

And, yes, there are still folks who consider the Bulldog program "mid-major," as my brother (an IU grad and former six-year resident of Bloomington) can attest. I feel that is a misguided characterization (I see Butler as "major") but that label is a remnant of the Butler program "pre-Big East."
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well, I think GW11 is officially giddy now.
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(Yesterday 12:35 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:25 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 11:48 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-18-2022 09:11 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  This could easily be the worst season for the Hoyas in 50 years. Rock bottom. To not be, Georgetown would have to go like 8-12 in conference play.. Seems like a given.


Couldn't believe it earlier when I checked their NET and saw they were 200+... Didn't think I would ever see a Big East team that low. Even DePaul seems to bottom out around 160-180 in their worst years

Yeah good point...

And would say that right now, Georgetown is even lower in RPI- #235 than they are NET #212.

And Butler isn't exactly much stronger. They were #141 in NET going into tonight and they lost by 17. They look like they could be in that 160-180 range end of the year.

I mean no disrespect to Butler or their players in saying this... But watching the game last night, they looked like a mid major program. Not even necessarily talent wise, but more so in terms of size, length and athleticism. A lot of their guys just looked small and seemed to be average athletes at best. Have they been recruiting poorly in recent years? I haven't really followed


Part of the Butler hoops' problem/challenge is that the program is perceived as the "fourth best/most influential" in Indiana behind (in no particular order) Notre Dame, Purdue and Indiana. As such, Butler men's basketball is the only Big East program that is not viewed as one of the "three best" in its state.

And, yes, there are still folks who consider the Bulldog program "mid-major," as my brother (an IU grad and former six-year resident of Bloomington) can attest. I feel that is a misguided characterization (I see Butler as "major") but that label is a remnant of the Butler program "pre-Big East."

Yeah, I haven't considered them mid major since they joined the A-10 tbh. They were great under Stevenson. Didn't really consider how far down the pecking order they are in Indiana hoops pedigree (always just figured Indiana is basketball crazed and didn't think much further than that), but that's a good point as well.

Regardless, hopefully their recruiting picks back up soon!
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