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2021-2022 Men's Basketball
Roster is shaping up next year with two scholarships left to fill. Should be a roster filled with upperclassmen and mostly familiar with the style of play and expectations of Siddle.

Phillps (PG) -Soph 6'0" 170 lbs
Thomas (PG) Fr 6'0" 185 lbs
Okauru(SG) - Sr 6'3" 185 lbs.
Fornes(SG) - Sr 6'3" 210 lb
McCracken(SG) -Fr 6'4" 175 lbs.
Harvey(SG) - Fr 6'5" 175 lbs.
Estime(SG) - Sr 6'5" 185 lbs.
Sims(SG/4) -Jr 6'6" 195 lbs.
White(4) - So 6'6" 195 lbs
Baker(SG/4) - Sr 6'6" 205 lbs.
McGriff© - Fr 6'8" 190 lbs

I love the makeup and players we have so far. Two strong point guards, a slew of shooting guards who can switch on defense, and several players who can play the four and defend. Add in two big men from the transfer portal who can rebound and defend and this team will compete.

Estime is still a question mark to me since injuries have halted his career. But he won't be missed with a roster like this.
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(03-29-2021 07:41 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Roster is shaping up next year with two scholarships left to fill. Should be a roster filled with upperclassmen and mostly familiar with the style of play and expectations of Siddle.

Phillps (PG) -Soph 6'0" 170 lbs
Thomas (PG) Fr 6'0" 185 lbs
Okauru(SG) - Sr 6'3" 185 lbs.
Fornes(SG) - Sr 6'3" 210 lb
McCracken(SG) -Fr 6'4" 175 lbs.
Harvey(SG) - Fr 6'5" 175 lbs.
Estime(SG) - Sr 6'5" 185 lbs.
Sims(SG/4) -Jr 6'6" 195 lbs.
White(4) - So 6'6" 195 lbs
Baker(SG/4) - Sr 6'6" 205 lbs.
McGriff© - Fr 6'8" 190 lbs

I love the makeup and players we have so far. Two strong point guards, a slew of shooting guards who can switch on defense, and several players who can play the four and defend. Add in two big men from the transfer portal who can rebound and defend and this team will compete.

Estime is still a question mark to me since injuries have halted his career. But he won't be missed with a roster like this.
Small, Small, and Smaller. Even adding in two bigs this will be smaller than any roster KK had while here.
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RE: 2021-2022 Men's Basketball
(03-29-2021 07:47 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:41 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Roster is shaping up next year with two scholarships left to fill. Should be a roster filled with upperclassmen and mostly familiar with the style of play and expectations of Siddle.

Phillps (PG) -Soph 6'0" 170 lbs
Thomas (PG) Fr 6'0" 185 lbs
Okauru(SG) - Sr 6'3" 185 lbs.
Fornes(SG) - Sr 6'3" 210 lb
McCracken(SG) -Fr 6'4" 175 lbs.
Harvey(SG) - Fr 6'5" 175 lbs.
Estime(SG) - Sr 6'5" 185 lbs.
Sims(SG/4) -Jr 6'6" 195 lbs.
White(4) - So 6'6" 195 lbs
Baker(SG/4) - Sr 6'6" 205 lbs.
McGriff© - Fr 6'8" 190 lbs

I love the makeup and players we have so far. Two strong point guards, a slew of shooting guards who can switch on defense, and several players who can play the four and defend. Add in two big men from the transfer portal who can rebound and defend and this team will compete.

Estime is still a question mark to me since injuries have halted his career. But he won't be missed with a roster like this.
Small, Small, and Smaller. Even adding in two bigs this will be smaller than any roster KK had while here.


Your memory fails you.

Keatts last year 2016-2017:

Starters: 24+ mins. per game

Ingram 6'0" 175 lbs. Phillps 6'0" 170 lbs.
Mosely 6'2" 185 lbs. Okauru 6'3" 185 lbs
Bryce 6'5" 185 lbs Estime 6'5" 185 lbs
Flemmings 6'5" 185 lbs. Simms 6'6" 195 lbs.
Cacok - 6'7" 240 lbs. McGriff 6'8" 190 lbs.

Bench

Talley 6'0" 185 lbs. 17.4 mpg 7.6 ppg Thomas 6'0" 185 lbs.
Richmond 6'0" 180 lbs 12.9 mpg 4.6 ppg Harvey 6'5" 175 lbs.
Fornes - 6'3" 185 lbs 8.0 mpg 3.1 ppg Fornes 6'3" 205 lbs.
Bryan - 6'7" 240 lbs 9.0 mpg 2.2 ppg 2.7 rpg
Ogbodo - 6'9" 225 lbs. 7.8 mpg 1.8 ppg 2.0 rpg


And yes, Cacok was the man. You've said it 1,0000 times, we all agree. Now form another argument. The fact is, we didn't have a big team at all. If we can add two more big men we're good to go.

Our current roster will be slightly bigger than his last year.
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Better make a lot of shots with a team that small-as in shoot lights out every night. You can't possibly defend the basket with a 6-8,190 freshman so he has to have 2 bigs that go 6-8 or bigger and at least 230 lbs.
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(03-29-2021 08:49 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Better make a lot of shots with a team that small-as in shoot lights out every night. You can't possibly defend the basket with a 6-8,190 freshman so he has to have 2 bigs that go 6-8 or bigger and at least 230 lbs.

Yes, we need to add two big men.
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(03-29-2021 08:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:47 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:41 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Roster is shaping up next year with two scholarships left to fill. Should be a roster filled with upperclassmen and mostly familiar with the style of play and expectations of Siddle.

Phillps (PG) -Soph 6'0" 170 lbs
Thomas (PG) Fr 6'0" 185 lbs
Okauru(SG) - Sr 6'3" 185 lbs.
Fornes(SG) - Sr 6'3" 210 lb
McCracken(SG) -Fr 6'4" 175 lbs.
Harvey(SG) - Fr 6'5" 175 lbs.
Estime(SG) - Sr 6'5" 185 lbs.
Sims(SG/4) -Jr 6'6" 195 lbs.
White(4) - So 6'6" 195 lbs
Baker(SG/4) - Sr 6'6" 205 lbs.
McGriff© - Fr 6'8" 190 lbs

I love the makeup and players we have so far. Two strong point guards, a slew of shooting guards who can switch on defense, and several players who can play the four and defend. Add in two big men from the transfer portal who can rebound and defend and this team will compete.

Estime is still a question mark to me since injuries have halted his career. But he won't be missed with a roster like this.
Small, Small, and Smaller. Even adding in two bigs this will be smaller than any roster KK had while here.


Your memory fails you.

Keatts last year 2016-2017:

Starters: 24+ mins. per game

Ingram 6'0" 175 lbs. Phillps 6'0" 170 lbs.
Mosely 6'2" 185 lbs. Okauru 6'3" 185 lbs
Bryce 6'5" 185 lbs Estime 6'5" 185 lbs
Flemmings 6'5" 185 lbs. Simms 6'6" 195 lbs.
Cacok - 6'7" 240 lbs. McGriff 6'8" 190 lbs.

Bench

Talley 6'0" 185 lbs. 17.4 mpg 7.6 ppg Thomas 6'0" 185 lbs.
Richmond 6'0" 180 lbs 12.9 mpg 4.6 ppg Harvey 6'5" 175 lbs.
Fornes - 6'3" 185 lbs 8.0 mpg 3.1 ppg Fornes 6'3" 205 lbs.
Bryan - 6'7" 240 lbs 9.0 mpg 2.2 ppg 2.7 rpg
Ogbodo - 6'9" 225 lbs. 7.8 mpg 1.8 ppg 2.0 rpg


And yes, Cacok was the man. You've said it 1,0000 times, we all agree. Now form another argument. The fact is, we didn't have a big team at all. If we can add two more big men we're good to go.

Our current roster will be slightly bigger than his last year.
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.
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RE: 2021-2022 Men's Basketball
(03-29-2021 09:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 08:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:47 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:41 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Roster is shaping up next year with two scholarships left to fill. Should be a roster filled with upperclassmen and mostly familiar with the style of play and expectations of Siddle.

Phillps (PG) -Soph 6'0" 170 lbs
Thomas (PG) Fr 6'0" 185 lbs
Okauru(SG) - Sr 6'3" 185 lbs.
Fornes(SG) - Sr 6'3" 210 lb
McCracken(SG) -Fr 6'4" 175 lbs.
Harvey(SG) - Fr 6'5" 175 lbs.
Estime(SG) - Sr 6'5" 185 lbs.
Sims(SG/4) -Jr 6'6" 195 lbs.
White(4) - So 6'6" 195 lbs
Baker(SG/4) - Sr 6'6" 205 lbs.
McGriff© - Fr 6'8" 190 lbs

I love the makeup and players we have so far. Two strong point guards, a slew of shooting guards who can switch on defense, and several players who can play the four and defend. Add in two big men from the transfer portal who can rebound and defend and this team will compete.

Estime is still a question mark to me since injuries have halted his career. But he won't be missed with a roster like this.
Small, Small, and Smaller. Even adding in two bigs this will be smaller than any roster KK had while here.


Your memory fails you.

Keatts last year 2016-2017:

Starters: 24+ mins. per game

Ingram 6'0" 175 lbs. Phillps 6'0" 170 lbs.
Mosely 6'2" 185 lbs. Okauru 6'3" 185 lbs
Bryce 6'5" 185 lbs Estime 6'5" 185 lbs
Flemmings 6'5" 185 lbs. Simms 6'6" 195 lbs.
Cacok - 6'7" 240 lbs. McGriff 6'8" 190 lbs.

Bench

Talley 6'0" 185 lbs. 17.4 mpg 7.6 ppg Thomas 6'0" 185 lbs.
Richmond 6'0" 180 lbs 12.9 mpg 4.6 ppg Harvey 6'5" 175 lbs.
Fornes - 6'3" 185 lbs 8.0 mpg 3.1 ppg Fornes 6'3" 205 lbs.
Bryan - 6'7" 240 lbs 9.0 mpg 2.2 ppg 2.7 rpg
Ogbodo - 6'9" 225 lbs. 7.8 mpg 1.8 ppg 2.0 rpg


And yes, Cacok was the man. You've said it 1,0000 times, we all agree. Now form another argument. The fact is, we didn't have a big team at all. If we can add two more big men we're good to go.

Our current roster will be slightly bigger than his last year.
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.

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Elmore was hurt and never played, so nothing was cherry picked. Add two big men and we will basically have the same roster size. Cacok was one player, not two, so he didn't account for two big men. That's just ignorant.

Regardless, your initial statement that we never had a roster this small is flat out wrong. If we don't land anymore big men, you may be right. But we have two scholarship still available. Let's see what happens.
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(03-29-2021 09:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 08:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:47 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:41 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Roster is shaping up next year with two scholarships left to fill. Should be a roster filled with upperclassmen and mostly familiar with the style of play and expectations of Siddle.

Phillps (PG) -Soph 6'0" 170 lbs
Thomas (PG) Fr 6'0" 185 lbs
Okauru(SG) - Sr 6'3" 185 lbs.
Fornes(SG) - Sr 6'3" 210 lb
McCracken(SG) -Fr 6'4" 175 lbs.
Harvey(SG) - Fr 6'5" 175 lbs.
Estime(SG) - Sr 6'5" 185 lbs.
Sims(SG/4) -Jr 6'6" 195 lbs.
White(4) - So 6'6" 195 lbs
Baker(SG/4) - Sr 6'6" 205 lbs.
McGriff© - Fr 6'8" 190 lbs

I love the makeup and players we have so far. Two strong point guards, a slew of shooting guards who can switch on defense, and several players who can play the four and defend. Add in two big men from the transfer portal who can rebound and defend and this team will compete.

Estime is still a question mark to me since injuries have halted his career. But he won't be missed with a roster like this.
Small, Small, and Smaller. Even adding in two bigs this will be smaller than any roster KK had while here.


Your memory fails you.

Keatts last year 2016-2017:

Starters: 24+ mins. per game

Ingram 6'0" 175 lbs. Phillps 6'0" 170 lbs.
Mosely 6'2" 185 lbs. Okauru 6'3" 185 lbs
Bryce 6'5" 185 lbs Estime 6'5" 185 lbs
Flemmings 6'5" 185 lbs. Simms 6'6" 195 lbs.
Cacok - 6'7" 240 lbs. McGriff 6'8" 190 lbs.

Bench

Talley 6'0" 185 lbs. 17.4 mpg 7.6 ppg Thomas 6'0" 185 lbs.
Richmond 6'0" 180 lbs 12.9 mpg 4.6 ppg Harvey 6'5" 175 lbs.
Fornes - 6'3" 185 lbs 8.0 mpg 3.1 ppg Fornes 6'3" 205 lbs.
Bryan - 6'7" 240 lbs 9.0 mpg 2.2 ppg 2.7 rpg
Ogbodo - 6'9" 225 lbs. 7.8 mpg 1.8 ppg 2.0 rpg


And yes, Cacok was the man. You've said it 1,0000 times, we all agree. Now form another argument. The fact is, we didn't have a big team at all. If we can add two more big men we're good to go.

Our current roster will be slightly bigger than his last year.
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.

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Elmore was hurt and never played, so nothing was cherry picked. Add two big men and we will basically have the same roster size. Cacok was one player, not two, so he didn't account for two big men. That's just ignorant.

Regardless, your initial statement that we never had a roster this small is flat out wrong. If we don't land anymore big men, you may be right. But we have two scholarship still available. Let's see what happens.
Cacok's rebounding absolutely made up for one other guy(or one smaller that didn't rebound). And Elmore Was on the roster, and played in 13 games. You can't just dismiss him because it's convenient for your argument. He WAS on the roster, and he WAS over 6'7 #Facts. So even if we get two more guys over 6'7 it will be a smaller front court than the last year under KK. Also, #facts
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(03-29-2021 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 08:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 07:47 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Small, Small, and Smaller. Even adding in two bigs this will be smaller than any roster KK had while here.


Your memory fails you.

Keatts last year 2016-2017:

Starters: 24+ mins. per game

Ingram 6'0" 175 lbs. Phillps 6'0" 170 lbs.
Mosely 6'2" 185 lbs. Okauru 6'3" 185 lbs
Bryce 6'5" 185 lbs Estime 6'5" 185 lbs
Flemmings 6'5" 185 lbs. Simms 6'6" 195 lbs.
Cacok - 6'7" 240 lbs. McGriff 6'8" 190 lbs.

Bench

Talley 6'0" 185 lbs. 17.4 mpg 7.6 ppg Thomas 6'0" 185 lbs.
Richmond 6'0" 180 lbs 12.9 mpg 4.6 ppg Harvey 6'5" 175 lbs.
Fornes - 6'3" 185 lbs 8.0 mpg 3.1 ppg Fornes 6'3" 205 lbs.
Bryan - 6'7" 240 lbs 9.0 mpg 2.2 ppg 2.7 rpg
Ogbodo - 6'9" 225 lbs. 7.8 mpg 1.8 ppg 2.0 rpg


And yes, Cacok was the man. You've said it 1,0000 times, we all agree. Now form another argument. The fact is, we didn't have a big team at all. If we can add two more big men we're good to go.

Our current roster will be slightly bigger than his last year.
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.

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Elmore was hurt and never played, so nothing was cherry picked. Add two big men and we will basically have the same roster size. Cacok was one player, not two, so he didn't account for two big men. That's just ignorant.

Regardless, your initial statement that we never had a roster this small is flat out wrong. If we don't land anymore big men, you may be right. But we have two scholarship still available. Let's see what happens.
Cacok's rebounding absolutely made up for one other guy(or one smaller that didn't rebound). And Elmore Was on the roster, and played in 13 games. You can't just dismiss him because it's convenient for your argument. He WAS on the roster, and he WAS over 6'7 #Facts. So even if we get two more guys over 6'7 it will be a smaller front court than the last year under KK. Also, #facts

I don't think you can argue he had any impact that year. He never played more than 6 minutes in any game against D1. Next you're going to argue we need to count Nick Powell
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Mullet hit the nail, need 2 bigs period that won’t get steam rolled or backed down at the cup. Not hard to figure out, just need them.
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(03-29-2021 10:10 AM)FLHawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 08:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Your memory fails you.

Keatts last year 2016-2017:

Starters: 24+ mins. per game

Ingram 6'0" 175 lbs. Phillps 6'0" 170 lbs.
Mosely 6'2" 185 lbs. Okauru 6'3" 185 lbs
Bryce 6'5" 185 lbs Estime 6'5" 185 lbs
Flemmings 6'5" 185 lbs. Simms 6'6" 195 lbs.
Cacok - 6'7" 240 lbs. McGriff 6'8" 190 lbs.

Bench

Talley 6'0" 185 lbs. 17.4 mpg 7.6 ppg Thomas 6'0" 185 lbs.
Richmond 6'0" 180 lbs 12.9 mpg 4.6 ppg Harvey 6'5" 175 lbs.
Fornes - 6'3" 185 lbs 8.0 mpg 3.1 ppg Fornes 6'3" 205 lbs.
Bryan - 6'7" 240 lbs 9.0 mpg 2.2 ppg 2.7 rpg
Ogbodo - 6'9" 225 lbs. 7.8 mpg 1.8 ppg 2.0 rpg


And yes, Cacok was the man. You've said it 1,0000 times, we all agree. Now form another argument. The fact is, we didn't have a big team at all. If we can add two more big men we're good to go.

Our current roster will be slightly bigger than his last year.
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.

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Elmore was hurt and never played, so nothing was cherry picked. Add two big men and we will basically have the same roster size. Cacok was one player, not two, so he didn't account for two big men. That's just ignorant.

Regardless, your initial statement that we never had a roster this small is flat out wrong. If we don't land anymore big men, you may be right. But we have two scholarship still available. Let's see what happens.
Cacok's rebounding absolutely made up for one other guy(or one smaller that didn't rebound). And Elmore Was on the roster, and played in 13 games. You can't just dismiss him because it's convenient for your argument. He WAS on the roster, and he WAS over 6'7 #Facts. So even if we get two more guys over 6'7 it will be a smaller front court than the last year under KK. Also, #facts

I don't think you can argue he had any impact that year. He never played more than 6 minutes in any game against D1. Next you're going to argue we need to count Nick Powell
Pretty sure Nick Powell wasn't on Scolly, and wasn't 6'7 so there's that. Coach went into that season with 4 guys on scolly above 6'7 who I'm sure he thought would contribute. What happened after that is irrelevant to the discussion about building a roster.
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Everyone is saying the same thing, just a couple of you in different ways.

We need two bigs. If we get two bigs, things could look A LOT better next season. If we DON'T get two bigs, it's probably going to be more of the same. That's what it all boils down to now. Recruit a couple bigs, and don't settle for anything else.
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Didn't Baker lead his conference in blocked shots at least one year? One of the few things Cacok didn't do well without fouling. Hope he brings that with him to the table.
We still need two good bigs. Just bigs don't help. Otherwise we could just walk the campus and pick up the first 6'11" guy we see.
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(03-29-2021 12:35 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Otherwise we could just walk the campus and pick up the first 6'11" guy we see.
That would likely be an improvement from last year :)
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(03-29-2021 12:35 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Otherwise we could just walk the campus and pick up the first 6'11" guy we see.
That would likely be an improvement from last year :)

So, you'd be good with posers on the bench?
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(03-29-2021 01:28 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 12:41 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 12:35 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Otherwise we could just walk the campus and pick up the first 6'11" guy we see.
That would likely be an improvement from last year :)

So, you'd be good with posers on the bench?
Sorry my sarcastic button wasn't working. My point was a 6'11 poser would have prob been better than what we ran out there last year.
Obviously hoping for something better this year.
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RE: 2021-2022 Men's Basketball
(03-29-2021 10:14 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 10:10 AM)FLHawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  [quote='Seahawkhoops' pid='17355767' dateline='1617028368']
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.

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Elmore was hurt and never played, so nothing was cherry picked. Add two big men and we will basically have the same roster size. Cacok was one player, not two, so he didn't account for two big men. That's just ignorant.

Regardless, your initial statement that we never had a roster this small is flat out wrong. If we don't land anymore big men, you may be right. But we have two scholarship still available. Let's see what happens.
Cacok's rebounding absolutely made up for one other guy(or one smaller that didn't rebound). And Elmore Was on the roster, and played in 13 games. You can't just dismiss him because it's convenient for your argument. He WAS on the roster, and he WAS over 6'7 #Facts. So even if we get two more guys over 6'7 it will be a smaller front court than the last year under KK. Also, #facts

I don't think you can argue he had any impact that year. He never played more than 6 minutes in any game against D1. Next you're going to argue we need to count Nick Powell
Pretty sure Nick Powell wasn't on Scolly, and wasn't 6'7 so there's that. Coach went into that season with 4 guys on scolly above 6'7 who I'm sure he thought would contribute. What happened after that is irrelevant to the discussion about building a roster.
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It is relevant to FACTS. The only size we had was at the 5. The rest of the roster looked a lot like what we have right now. And it is relevant who played and who didnt. McGrath had a 7 footer who was one of the worst players I've ever seen, so he sat the bench.
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RE: 2021-2022 Men's Basketball
(03-29-2021 02:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 10:14 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 10:10 AM)FLHawk Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:59 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-29-2021 09:54 AM)82hawk Wrote:  [quote='Seahawkhoops' pid='17355767' dateline='1617028368']
Way to cherry pick. Yes, the guards may be bigger, But as Mullet pointed out unless we add 2 monsters it will not be bigger than his team on the front line which is where we got murdered last year. and no I DO NOT need a new argument. Cacok accounted for two big men, that absolutely factors in whether you like to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

You also left off Ellmore, who was also over 6'7 . They had 4 players over 6'7. this team will have a max of 3. And when you include the Cacok factor, not even close.

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Elmore was hurt and never played, so nothing was cherry picked. Add two big men and we will basically have the same roster size. Cacok was one player, not two, so he didn't account for two big men. That's just ignorant.

Regardless, your initial statement that we never had a roster this small is flat out wrong. If we don't land anymore big men, you may be right. But we have two scholarship still available. Let's see what happens.
Cacok's rebounding absolutely made up for one other guy(or one smaller that didn't rebound). And Elmore Was on the roster, and played in 13 games. You can't just dismiss him because it's convenient for your argument. He WAS on the roster, and he WAS over 6'7 #Facts. So even if we get two more guys over 6'7 it will be a smaller front court than the last year under KK. Also, #facts

I don't think you can argue he had any impact that year. He never played more than 6 minutes in any game against D1. Next you're going to argue we need to count Nick Powell
Pretty sure Nick Powell wasn't on Scolly, and wasn't 6'7 so there's that. Coach went into that season with 4 guys on scolly above 6'7 who I'm sure he thought would contribute. What happened after that is irrelevant to the discussion about building a roster.
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It is relevant to FACTS. The only size we had was at the 5. The rest of the roster looked a lot like what we have right now. And it is relevant who played and who didnt. McGrath had a 7 footer who was one of the worst players I've ever seen, so he sat the bench.
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So you want me to consider what happened during the games, but, you refuse to acknowledge how much of a difference it made to have the best rebounder to ever step foot on the floor in Trask in said games? Got it05-nono
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Looks as if we aren't the only one to have a number of players enter the transfer portal. The Star News said today that 6 ezu players have entered the transfer portal. Gardner's, their leading scorer, and a seven footer are among them.
From the article -

Leading scorer Jayden Gardner announced his decision Monday. A day later, 7-foot center Charles Coleman became the latest Pirate to enter the portal. They join freshman guard Noah Farrakhan, junior guard Miles James and senior graduate transfers Edra Luster and Bitumba Baruti, who are both using the extra year of eligibility extended to athletes by the NCAA due to COVID-19. 

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(03-31-2021 09:00 AM)Proff Wrote:  Looks as if we aren't the only one to have a number of players enter the transfer portal. The Star News said today that 6 ezu players have entered the transfer portal. Gardner's, their leading scorer, and a seven footer are among them.
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Leading scorer Jayden Gardner announced his decision Monday. A day later, 7-foot center Charles Coleman became the latest Pirate to enter the portal. They join freshman guard Noah Farrakhan, junior guard Miles James and senior graduate transfers Edra Luster and Bitumba Baruti, who are both using the extra year of eligibility extended to athletes by the NCAA due to COVID-19. 

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Gardner should land at a P5 school. Probably in the ACC if he wants.
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