Oh man I’m not sure wvu leaves the XII for the ACC. The travel is a thing for sure but as I’ve heard Bob Huggins say many times “is there a huge difference between a 2hr flight and a 4hr flight?” For football Texas and Oklahoma are giants but every other program in the league is at or below wvus level historically. Men’s and women’s basketball is very good. The XII put together a nice wrestling league. League membership has done wonders for baseball. The XII has lots of land grant/small town schools.on several levels it’s a great fit

Now if Penn St calls and says there getting the Lambert Trophy schools back together plus Maryland..that’s a different conversation

Jackson

(03-28-2021 12:00 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  SEC (Florida St, Oklahoma)
ACC (West Virginia)
XII (Houston, Memphis)

Makes sense but that is why it won't happen.

No. What makes sense in the ACC is Connecticut. ACC fans need to get over their football pride and stop trying/wanting to be like the SEC. After almost a decade of Louisville instead of UConn is ACC football really any better than it was before Louisville and if so is it because of Louisville? Louisville is irrelevant in college football (and no Duke's Mayo Bowls and Music City Bowls don't make you relevant). The ACC will never be a football conference. They're a basketball conference (men's and women's). And I will respect them more if they try to be more like the Big Ten than the SEC and add schools like West Virginia who make the Mississippi schools look smart. I hope Geno Auriemma wins another title and they can shove it in the ACC's face.

And why should the ACC care what Boston College wants? They haven't made the NCAA men's tournament since 2009. Only two other P6 team missed the NCAA Tournament the entire 2010's, DePaul and Washington State. Their women haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 2006! Screw them! BC should be happy they're in the ACC. Maybe if UConn was in the ACC someone in New England would care about the ACC. No one in Boston cares about the ACC these days.

People who think West Virginia belongs in the ACC are as smart as West Virginia students are.

(03-26-2021 01:05 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(03-26-2021 12:30 PM)jgkojak Wrote:  If Covid has done anything its underlined how travel is a real thing for college athletics.

There are three simple moves that could reduce travel in 3 conferences:

Nebraska to Big 12 - Nebraska has suffered in the B1G. Its path back to greatness is being able to recruit TX and OK and the restoration of those rivalries, especially OK. It makes total sense for them to rejoin, meaning...

WV to the ACC - WV has natural rivals in PIT and VA TECH and LOUSIVILLE, loads better travel for non-revenue sports and brings competitive Football and Basketball.

SYRACUSE to B1G - Syracuse is an actual AAU school unlike Nebraska. This regionally aligns to B1G, would cause an East-West conf realignment, but would make plenty of sense.

These three moves make more sense than where these teams are currently located conference-wise.

Discuss

Putting WVU in the ACC would be like hanging Studebaker fenders on a Lexus.

Yugo fenders would be more apropos.

(03-28-2021 01:03 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(03-28-2021 12:00 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  SEC (Florida St, Oklahoma)
ACC (West Virginia)
XII (Houston, Memphis)

Makes sense but that is why it won't happen.

No. What makes sense in the ACC is Connecticut. ACC fans need to get over their football pride and stop trying/wanting to be like the SEC. After almost a decade of Louisville instead of UConn is ACC football really any better than it was before Louisville and if so is it because of Louisville? Louisville is irrelevant in college football (and no Duke's Mayo Bowls and Music City Bowls don't make you relevant). The ACC will never be a football conference.They're a basketball conference (men's and women's). And I will respect them more if they try to be more like the Big Ten than the SEC and add schools like West Virginia who make the Mississippi schools look smart. I hope Geno Auriemma wins another title and they can shove it in the ACC's face.

And why should the ACC care what Boston College wants? They haven't made the NCAA men's tournament since 2009. Only two other P6 team missed the NCAA Tournament the entire 2010's, DePaul and Washington State. Their women haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 2006! Screw them! BC should be happy they're in the ACC. Maybe if UConn was in the ACC someone in New England would care about the ACC. No one in Boston cares about the ACC these days.

People who think West Virginia belongs in the ACC are as smart as West Virginia students are.

The question is not one of "sense" but of "cents".

If ESPN was willing to pay enough to the ACC to make UConn a member, it would already be one.

Can UConn pay for itself and add millions to each existing ACC school's bottom line?

If so, ok. If not, it will never happen.

Academics are irrelevant here. Boston College is irrelevant here. "Basketball conference" is also irrelevant here. The only relevant issue is revenue.

Can you outline how UConn's addition would generate enough revenue for the ACC to consider inviting them?

(03-28-2021 01:03 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(03-28-2021 12:00 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  SEC (Florida St, Oklahoma)
ACC (West Virginia)
XII (Houston, Memphis)

Makes sense but that is why it won't happen.

No. What makes sense in the ACC is Connecticut. ACC fans need to get over their football pride and stop trying/wanting to be like the SEC. After almost a decade of Louisville instead of UConn is ACC football really any better than it was before Louisville and if so is it because of Louisville? Louisville is irrelevant in college football (and no Duke's Mayo Bowls and Music City Bowls don't make you relevant). The ACC will never be a football conference. They're a basketball conference (men's and women's). And I will respect them more if they try to be more like the Big Ten than the SEC and add schools like West Virginia who make the Mississippi schools look smart. I hope Geno Auriemma wins another title and they can shove it in the ACC's face.

And why should the ACC care what Boston College wants? They haven't made the NCAA men's tournament since 2009. Only two other P6 team missed the NCAA Tournament the entire 2010's, DePaul and Washington State. Their women haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 2006! Screw them! BC should be happy they're in the ACC. Maybe if UConn was in the ACC someone in New England would care about the ACC. No one in Boston cares about the ACC these days.

People who think West Virginia belongs in the ACC are as smart as West Virginia students are.

Football drives 75% to 80% of revenues. Louisville has won 8 games per season over the past decade. Playing a weaker schedule, UConn has averaged 3 football wins per season.

This is not the ACC of the 1980s or 1990s. Football revenue is the #1 criteria for admissions to the ACC (and other P5 programs).

UConn left the American because they wanted to prioritize basketball over football. The Big East is the best home for UConn athletics.

(03-28-2021 02:21 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(03-28-2021 01:03 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(03-28-2021 12:00 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  SEC (Florida St, Oklahoma)
ACC (West Virginia)
XII (Houston, Memphis)

Makes sense but that is why it won't happen.

No. What makes sense in the ACC is Connecticut. ACC fans need to get over their football pride and stop trying/wanting to be like the SEC. After almost a decade of Louisville instead of UConn is ACC football really any better than it was before Louisville and if so is it because of Louisville? Louisville is irrelevant in college football (and no Duke's Mayo Bowls and Music City Bowls don't make you relevant). The ACC will never be a football conference. They're a basketball conference (men's and women's). And I will respect them more if they try to be more like the Big Ten than the SEC and add schools like West Virginia who make the Mississippi schools look smart. I hope Geno Auriemma wins another title and they can shove it in the ACC's face.

And why should the ACC care what Boston College wants? They haven't made the NCAA men's tournament since 2009. Only two other P6 team missed the NCAA Tournament the entire 2010's, DePaul and Washington State. Their women haven't made the NCAA Tournament since 2006! Screw them! BC should be happy they're in the ACC. Maybe if UConn was in the ACC someone in New England would care about the ACC. No one in Boston cares about the ACC these days.

People who think West Virginia belongs in the ACC are as smart as West Virginia students are.

Football drives 75% to 80% of revenues. Louisville has won 8 games per season over the past decade. Playing a weaker schedule, UConn has averaged 3 football wins per season.

This is not the ACC of the 1980s or 1990s. Football revenue is the #1 criteria for admissions to the ACC (and other P5 programs).

UConn left the American because they wanted to prioritize basketball over football. The Big East is the best home for UConn athletics.

Yep. What’s more UConn could not compete in football with anyone in the AAC. Forget the travel or “getting excited about playing Tulsa”... they cannot recruit the athletes to compete on a yearly basis to compete with Cincinnati, UCF, USF, Houston, SMU or Memphis.

It’s a freaking joke UConn fans keep bringing them up as a “no-brainer” for the ACC. If they can’t hang with ECU on the grid iron what makes them think they would hang with Clemson?