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(10-05-2021 12:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 12:30 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Tons of people ?

Basically Chris Vogt is the one who defended him. If you weren’t in the locker room or behind the scenes the past 2 years then your opinion does not matter.

Drew McDonald never played a game for UC, his opinion means nothing… he wasn’t there.

The players, the other coaches and the support staff, that’s who’s opinion matters. I don’t recall any of his support staff publicly defending him. Hmm


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dejulious defended brannen too... all the complaints were logged in by freshman who have no clue how college work


Harvey, rap, sorolla, all had bad things to say about Brannen. None were freshman.

Prince’s wife too


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(10-05-2021 12:32 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 11:55 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  Morally?? Don’t make me laugh. Pesik’s repeated statements that we are sullying a “good man’s” reputation as if he knows the first thing about him is either nauseating or hilarious depending on your mood that day. This is the absolute pinnacle of pesik arguments and I am HERE for it.

OHH IM SORRY!!!
I forgot about how you and Brannen were best friends and how you known him so well!!!!

here is the thing, when the allegation came out tons of people who do know him in the coaching world all came to his defense...

id rather believe a man i dont know is good..
than be a bunch of sickos who believe a man is a monster for paying for a players therapy session and making players run on an athletic team

we both dont know him....

stxrunner i don't know you at all, but if a person with obvious ulterior motives try to portray you as a monster to achieve that obvious ulterior motive id defend you.. and id proudly take the "self rightous" attacks defending you till real evidence is provided that you are a monster

you guys are spitting narrative that all the players "hated him" vogt and dejulius publicly supported him.. vogt hung out him a few weeks ago

its a virtual certainty if he took uc the final 4 he would still be the coach at UC.. IT IS DELUSIONAL to think otherwise..there wouldn't have been "anything to get over" as UC Likely doesn't go in a smear campaign releasing evidence that all consisted of stuff before the season even started..

Lol...

So switch the names from Cinci to Houston...Are you still singing the same song?

yes.. ive always been a people defender against institutions ..the same way there were some UC fans who said they didnt like how it was handled...we all arent andriods like the ones over here

if it was a houston jersey id expect the houston homers to defend houston ragged .. but i personally wouldn't have.. it is well known on the Houston forum that i dont blindly support houston

i defended wiseman in the thread about the ncaa aswell
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whats interesting to me is that Houston literally brags about running our players ragged publicly...Houston releases video of our players dying in offseason conditioning and tags it "culture"

and yes a player with a pre-existing heart condition should not be at Houston practice

here is a current UH coach, and former player talking about how insane our practices are, that was then quote tweeted by all the players in agreement ...and here is the kicker, our coaching staff retweeted and liked a lot of the comments



this is literally the entire basis of the UC agreement that brannen is a monster,
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(10-05-2021 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 11:55 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  Morally?? Don’t make me laugh. Pesik’s repeated statements that we are sullying a “good man’s” reputation as if he knows the first thing about him is either nauseating or hilarious depending on your mood that day. This is the absolute pinnacle of pesik arguments and I am HERE for it.

OHH IM SORRY!!!
I forgot about how you and Brannen were best friends and how you known him so well!!!!

here is the thing, when the allegation came out tons of people who do know him in the coaching world all came to his defense...

id rather believe a man i dont know is good..
than be a bunch of sickos who believe a man is a monster for paying for a players therapy session and making players run on an athletic team

we both dont know him....

stxrunner i don't know you at all, but if a person with obvious ulterior motives try to portray you as a monster to achieve that obvious ulterior motive id defend you.. and id proudly take the "self rightous" attacks defending you till real evidence is provided that you are a monster

you guys are spitting narrative that all the players "hated him" vogt and dejulius publicly supported him.. vogt hung out him a few weeks ago

its a virtual certainty if he took uc the final 4 he would still be the coach at UC.. IT IS DELUSIONAL to think otherwise..there wouldn't have been "anything to get over" as UC Likely doesn't go in a smear campaign releasing evidence that all consisted of stuff before the season even started..

Woah there. I never claimed to know him. And I, nor anyone in any official capacity, have called him a monster.

So stuck in black and white. “Well not everyone hates him, so he must be fine.” Plenty of other pretty terrible people have had those who stuck up for them. Just because he created a toxic culture doesn’t mean he is the worst guy ever. Maybe he just cracked under pressure and his players caught the brunt of it. Doesn’t mean he deserves the damnation some in the UC fan base give him. It also doesn’t mean he deserves some liberating redemption like you think he does.

I still don’t know how you have the cognitive dissonance to claim what went on at UC under him is all fine and dandy. That some innocent sweet little coach got run off for one losing season in a pandemic is all that happened. You are quick to defend Brannen, but yet you seem to have ZERO sympathy for the players who were clearly miserable under him. Do they not deserve your benefit of the doubt too, or is that just maybe your hypocrisy showing though? Have you not seen Brannen doing his best to drag his former players through the mud. Some guy eh?

Call me soft, but I’d rather side with the guys putting in the work while in school than desperately clinging to defend a man who is paid to make sure they become better basketball players while enjoying their experience yet couldn’t remotely handle either task. Maybe that means he still deserves buyout money, maybe not. Not for me to decide.

It would make more sense if you were caught up in the contractual terms and what not, but you keep trying to drag morality aspects into this and it continues to not make sense.
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(10-05-2021 12:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  so your point is we should ignore obvious misdeeds if it doesnt affect us personally???

you also twisted what mark did.. he bumpd this thread last night braggin the UC had won becuase the case was dropped..then said what i posted would age horribly
.. and later stated somethng about claims that wasnt clear (i think he was trying to state it had been refilled but in a shady way to not be able to tell the meaning, so his earlier post still had validility)

I responded last night that i googled and he was refilling and the dismissal meant nothing...in the MORNING AFTER mark edited his claims post to more clearly state that an identical case had been refilled

also zero people 0% would repsond with "good call"...after a bad attempt at a call out...

WTF? You just like to lie about everything sometimes to make yourself look good.

This was my first post about it. There was no editing involved:

(10-04-2021 09:11 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Brannen has dismissed all claims against uc, Cunningham and Pinto. It's without prejudice so it doesn't have to be the end but hopefully this ends that saga.

Also posted on twitter prior to posting on here and said this could mean he'd be refiling in another court.

I did modify one post to change the court, when it was noted Brannen had refiled I assumed it was Common Pleas, but it was actually Court of Claims...I changed Common Pleas to Court of Claims in my post.
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(10-05-2021 12:41 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 12:32 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 11:55 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  Morally?? Don’t make me laugh. Pesik’s repeated statements that we are sullying a “good man’s” reputation as if he knows the first thing about him is either nauseating or hilarious depending on your mood that day. This is the absolute pinnacle of pesik arguments and I am HERE for it.

OHH IM SORRY!!!
I forgot about how you and Brannen were best friends and how you known him so well!!!!

here is the thing, when the allegation came out tons of people who do know him in the coaching world all came to his defense...

id rather believe a man i dont know is good..
than be a bunch of sickos who believe a man is a monster for paying for a players therapy session and making players run on an athletic team

we both dont know him....

stxrunner i don't know you at all, but if a person with obvious ulterior motives try to portray you as a monster to achieve that obvious ulterior motive id defend you.. and id proudly take the "self rightous" attacks defending you till real evidence is provided that you are a monster

you guys are spitting narrative that all the players "hated him" vogt and dejulius publicly supported him.. vogt hung out him a few weeks ago

its a virtual certainty if he took uc the final 4 he would still be the coach at UC.. IT IS DELUSIONAL to think otherwise..there wouldn't have been "anything to get over" as UC Likely doesn't go in a smear campaign releasing evidence that all consisted of stuff before the season even started..

Lol...

So switch the names from Cinci to Houston...Are you still singing the same song?

yes.. ive always been a people defender against institutions ..the same way there were some UC fans who said they didnt like how it was handled...we all arent andriods like the ones over here

if it was a houston jersey id expect the houston homers to defend houston ragged .. but i personally wouldn't have.. it is well known on the Houston forum that i dont blindly support houston

i defended wiseman in the thread about the ncaa aswell


Maybe you should an unpaid student athlete defender instead


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(10-05-2021 12:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  I still don’t know how you have the cognitive dissonance to claim what went on at UC under him is all fine and dandy. That some innocent sweet little coach got run off for one losing season in a pandemic is all that happened. You are quick to defend Brannen, but yet you seem to have ZERO sympathy for the players who were clearly miserable under him. Do they not deserve your benefit of the doubt too, or is that just maybe your hypocrisy showing though? Have you not seen Brannen doing his best to drag his former players through the mud. Some guy eh?

Call me soft, but I’d rather side with the guys putting in the work while in school than desperately clinging to defend a man who is paid to make sure they become better basketball players while enjoying their experience yet couldn’t remotely handle either task. Maybe that means he still deserves buyout money, maybe not. Not for me to decide.

It would make more sense if you were caught up in the contractual terms and what not, but you keep trying to drag morality aspects into this and it continues to not make sense.
they were complaining about running too much..and it had no affect on them beyond that practice..

they are complaining about not having constant access to water in practice...

as a former athlete myself that is one of the most privileged modern era things ever.. when i played ball we had to finish our sets before access to water (normally a fountain) water after ever rep wasnt a thing

and i have sympathy for players when it damages them long term.. if they left because the practices were too hard forthem.. that's their right... but best BELIEVE if brannen had denied them immediate eligibility (pretend it's the old rule) i would have been on his ass...
i dont have sympathy for hard practices, the same why i feel no sympathy for uh players after hard practices, it is part of the program
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(10-05-2021 01:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-05-2021 12:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  so your point is we should ignore obvious misdeeds if it doesnt affect us personally???

you also twisted what mark did.. he bumpd this thread last night braggin the UC had won becuase the case was dropped..then said what i posted would age horribly
.. and later stated somethng about claims that wasnt clear (i think he was trying to state it had been refilled but in a shady way to not be able to tell the meaning, so his earlier post still had validility)

I responded last night that i googled and he was refilling and the dismissal meant nothing...in the MORNING AFTER mark edited his claims post to more clearly state that an identical case had been refilled

also zero people 0% would repsond with "good call"...after a bad attempt at a call out...

WTF? You just like to lie about everything sometimes to make yourself look good.

This was my first post about it. There was no editing involved:

(10-04-2021 09:11 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Brannen has dismissed all claims against uc, Cunningham and Pinto. It's without prejudice so it doesn't have to be the end but hopefully this ends that saga.

Also posted on twitter prior to posting on here and said this could mean he'd be refiling in another court.

I did modify one post to change the court, when it was noted Brannen had refiled I assumed it was Common Pleas, but it was actually Court of Claims...I changed Common Pleas to Court of Claims in my post.

i clearly wasnt referring to your first post.. but the post you edited this morning that more clearly stated the case had been re-filed. that wasn't clearly stated last night

im confused
" edited his claims post to more clearly state that an identical case had been refilled""
what indication about that insinuates the 1st post????
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(10-05-2021 01:08 PM)pesik Wrote:  i clealry wasnt referning you first post.. but the post you editted this morning that more clealry stated the case had been re-filed. that wasnt clearly stated last night

im confused
" edited his claims post to more clearly state that an identical case had been refilled""
what indication about that insinuates the 1st post????

It wasn't anymore clear...I literally just changed the court he had refiled in to reflect knowledge of the specific court (instead of my assumption of where he had refiled)
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(10-05-2021 12:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  whats interesting to me is that Houston literally brags about running our players ragged publicly...Houston releases video of our players dying in offseason conditioning and tags it "culture"

and yes a player with a pre-existing heart condition should not be at Houston practice

here is a current UH coach, and former player talking about how insane our practices are, that was then quote tweeted by all the players in agreement ...and here is the kicker, our coaching staff retweeted and liked a lot of the comments



this is literally the entire basis of the UC agreement that brannen is a monster,

Running hard practices isn’t a problem when you have the trust and faith of your guys. How many times does this need to be explained?

Cronin was a psychopath. Literally a crazy person at practice. Saw it with my own two eyes. But he showed he loved and cared for his players in every aspect, so that when he pushed them, they responded even if they hated it. That’s what makes him successful. Bob Huggins might have been even worse. My inclination is Sampson is the same way. Brannen clearly was not that guy given such divergent responses.

I don’t know why you don’t see how the heart issue event that came up wouldn’t be a major red flag to players who might lose faith that you had the best in mind for them. Between that and pitting players against each other and asking for them to go behind each other’s backs, it’s not hard to see why they wanted to be as far away from him as possible.

Sh**ty human being? Not for me to decide. Sh**ty coach? Uh, yeah, pretty clearly.

Cunningham clearly caught win of the culture issues and railroaded him out to prevent it from getting worse. I’d call that doing his job.

IMO, Brannen made his own bed, and now all that’s left to determine is if he gets paid for being forced to lay in it. But I’m a UC fan.

In your Opinion, you clearly feel he was unfairly removed, that the only problem was either losing a bit or that the new AD wanted his own guy and should have been paid to make up for the injustice.

I think I’m happy to leave it at that and move on until this hilarity is inevitably bumped again.
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