(03-25-2021 11:00 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 07:59 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  If we're going to be bringing in more guards then we might as well call some of our recruits and tell them not to show up. BTW, with the new transfer rules, if a kid doesn't play as a freshman, he's likely to be gone. Forget redshirting.

Exactly !!
Makes you wonder if Hill or God forbid Rollins are thinking about exiting...
Why else would K be in contact with Cincy players transferring out ...

because both are really good players that our staff recruited out of HS that would make our team better. rollins isn't going anywhere. he has a great relationship with the staff and program. ut is close to home and he is the centerpiece of the program going forward. hill has potential but hasn't proved enough to avoid pg competition. either of those cincy guys would be good additions. true, we have a couple guards coming in and another redshirting but it's a competitive sport. you bring in as much talent as possible and let the playing time resolve itself. anyone think a guy who is a key player at cincy as a freshman and has the experience of a year in that league with memphis, houston, whichita st, etc... won't help in the MAC?

Plowden from BGSU returning too school

(03-25-2021 02:02 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 11:00 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 07:59 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  If we're going to be bringing in more guards then we might as well call some of our recruits and tell them not to show up. BTW, with the new transfer rules, if a kid doesn't play as a freshman, he's likely to be gone. Forget redshirting.

Exactly !!
Makes you wonder if Hill or God forbid Rollins are thinking about exiting...
Why else would K be in contact with Cincy players transferring out ...

but it's a competitive sport. you bring in as much talent as possible

No.

It's a team with a limited number of positions that have to learn to work together in a way years produces. There are different positions that require a balance. And it is still first and foremost a University, an educational facility. If someone is trying to put together a mercenary army of "best" they can coach G-League.

Swapping players in and out in order to bring in "as much talent as possible" more than anything risks chemistry and commitment. If a position opens up, then and only then is there an opening.

(03-29-2021 05:45 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 02:02 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 11:00 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 07:59 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  If we're going to be bringing in more guards then we might as well call some of our recruits and tell them not to show up. BTW, with the new transfer rules, if a kid doesn't play as a freshman, he's likely to be gone. Forget redshirting.

Exactly !!
Makes you wonder if Hill or God forbid Rollins are thinking about exiting...
Why else would K be in contact with Cincy players transferring out ...

but it's a competitive sport. you bring in as much talent as possible

No.

It's a team with a limited number of positions that have to learn to work together in a way years produces. There are different positions that require a balance. And it is still first and foremost a University, an educational facility. If someone is trying to put together a mercenary army of "best" they can coach G-League.

Swapping players in and out in order to bring in "as much talent as possible" more than anything risks chemistry and commitment. If a position opens up, then and only then is there an opening.

G League or Kentucky.

(03-29-2021 06:17 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-29-2021 05:45 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 02:02 PM)pono Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 11:00 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(03-25-2021 07:59 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  If we're going to be bringing in more guards then we might as well call some of our recruits and tell them not to show up. BTW, with the new transfer rules, if a kid doesn't play as a freshman, he's likely to be gone. Forget redshirting.

Exactly !!
Makes you wonder if Hill or God forbid Rollins are thinking about exiting...
Why else would K be in contact with Cincy players transferring out ...

but it's a competitive sport. you bring in as much talent as possible

No.

It's a team with a limited number of positions that have to learn to work together in a way years produces. There are different positions that require a balance. And it is still first and foremost a University, an educational facility. If someone is trying to put together a mercenary army of "best" they can coach G-League.

Swapping players in and out in order to bring in "as much talent as possible" more than anything risks chemistry and commitment. If a position opens up, then and only then is there an opening.

G League or Kentucky.

sad but true. lol

OT, but since this is the latest thread.

Did anyone watch the UCLA vs Alabama game? I was interested since Oats came from Buffalo.

They looked like a Toledo in their approach. They chucked up 28 threes, making only 7 for 25 percent. Even worse - 11 of 25 free throws for 44 percent (that's not Toledo). Wow! If they would have made them they win. One of their best players got 2 fouls in the first minute. Wild game.

TK just really needs to find a transfer who can fill our void— a back-to-the-basket, junkyard dog, points-in-the-paint guy. Even if Edu is able to play effectively next season, he’s never been much of a scorer at this level. We need someone who can change the game by getting those tough points in the low block. Other teams have done it to us for awhile now. Taking another transfer guard—or worse yet, another freshman guard—won’t get it done next season, unless our 6’11 and 6’5’ incoming freshmen are both all-freshman team caliber.

(03-29-2021 08:22 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  TK just really needs to find a transfer who can fill our void— a back-to-the-basket, junkyard dog, points-in-the-paint guy. Even if Edu is able to play effectively next season, he’s never been much of a scorer at this level. We need someone who can change the game by getting those tough points in the low block. Other teams have done it to us for awhile now. Taking another transfer guard—or worse yet, another freshman guard—won’t get it done next season, unless our 6’11 and 6’5’ incoming freshmen are both all-freshman team caliber.

Agree

(03-30-2021 07:39 AM)WHRocket Wrote:  

(03-29-2021 08:22 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  TK just really needs to find a transfer who can fill our void— a back-to-the-basket, junkyard dog, points-in-the-paint guy. Even if Edu is able to play effectively next season, he’s never been much of a scorer at this level. We need someone who can change the game by getting those tough points in the low block. Other teams have done it to us for awhile now. Taking another transfer guard—or worse yet, another freshman guard—won’t get it done next season, unless our 6’11 and 6’5’ incoming freshmen are both all-freshman team caliber.

Agree

How about IU's Race Thompson?

Jack Nunge is a name to keep an eye on. New Castle, Inidiana big man with some skill who was had a challenging few years at Iowa eerily similar to AJ Edu. Missed a year with an ACL and made it back to full strength and was playing pretty well for a top 10 program but then tore his meniscus this Feb. Also lost his dad a few days before the season began. Said he wants to finish his career close to home. Toledo is 3 hours away (Iowa City is 6 1/2) so that might be sufficient. Of course, Muncie is nearby and schools like Butler and Indiana are closer than UT. And dayton, cincy, xavier, wright state, are all a bit closer too.

Personally, I'm drawn to Isaiah Poor Bear Chandler, the ex-Whichita State big man, primarily for the name. Talented half-Lakota big man with a build similar to nathan boothe who never quite found a place at whichita st.

basically, the portal is a huge rabbit hole that could consume an evening of any college basketball fan's life imagining who in it fits for your team.

(03-30-2021 11:20 PM)pono Wrote:  Jack Nunge is a name to keep an eye on. New Castle, Inidiana big man with some skill who was had a challenging few years at Iowa eerily similar to AJ Edu. Missed a year with an ACL and made it back to full strength and was playing pretty well for a top 10 program but then tore his meniscus this Feb. Also lost his dad a few days before the season began. Said he wants to finish his career close to home. Toledo is 3 hours away (Iowa City is 6 1/2) so that might be sufficient. Of course, Muncie is nearby and schools like Butler and Indiana are closer than UT. And dayton, cincy, xavier, wright state, are all a bit closer too.

Personally, I'm drawn to Isaiah Poor Bear Chandler, the ex-Whichita State big man, primarily for the name. Talented half-Lakota big man with a build similar to nathan boothe who never quite found a place at whichita st.

basically, the portal is a huge rabbit hole that could consume an evening of any college basketball fan's life imagining who in it fits for your team.

If all our needs are filled we definitely go for the name transfer-Poor Bear is pretty cool.

(03-30-2021 11:23 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-30-2021 11:20 PM)pono Wrote:  Jack Nunge is a name to keep an eye on. New Castle, Inidiana big man with some skill who was had a challenging few years at Iowa eerily similar to AJ Edu. Missed a year with an ACL and made it back to full strength and was playing pretty well for a top 10 program but then tore his meniscus this Feb. Also lost his dad a few days before the season began. Said he wants to finish his career close to home. Toledo is 3 hours away (Iowa City is 6 1/2) so that might be sufficient. Of course, Muncie is nearby and schools like Butler and Indiana are closer than UT. And dayton, cincy, xavier, wright state, are all a bit closer too.

Personally, I'm drawn to Isaiah Poor Bear Chandler, the ex-Whichita State big man, primarily for the name. Talented half-Lakota big man with a build similar to nathan boothe who never quite found a place at whichita st.

basically, the portal is a huge rabbit hole that could consume an evening of any college basketball fan's life imagining who in it fits for your team.

If all our needs are filled we definitely go for the name transfer-Poor Bear is pretty cool.

I posted about Nunge on another thread before I saw this reference to him by pono - https://www.hawkeyenation.com/news/baske...5249a.html

Former Ball State guard Ishmael El-Amin, is heading to play for Rhode Island in the A10.

El-Amin landing at a A-10 contender is a definitely a step up.

(03-24-2021 09:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Former Ohio U Power Forward/Center Jason Carter (6-8, 225lb) is transferring from Xavier as a graduate transfer and will have 1 year eligibility left. If you remember, Carter was an impact player for the Bobcats as a Freshman making the All Freshman team, missed his sophomore year with an injury and averaged 16 points per game the following season before transferring when former Coach Saul Phillips was fired. At Xavier he averaged 5 and 6 points respectively the past two seasons as a starter but was plagued by injuries that effected his play. He is not sure if he is going to play another season but wants to see what his options are as he already has a Masters Degree. I'm wondering if he could get that same type of production back that he had at Ohio if he came back to play in the MAC?

Jeff Goodman is reporting That Carter is transferring back to Ohio.

(04-02-2021 05:33 PM)Eagle66 Wrote:  

(03-24-2021 09:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Former Ohio U Power Forward/Center Jason Carter (6-8, 225lb) is transferring from Xavier as a graduate transfer and will have 1 year eligibility left. If you remember, Carter was an impact player for the Bobcats as a Freshman making the All Freshman team, missed his sophomore year with an injury and averaged 16 points per game the following season before transferring when former Coach Saul Phillips was fired. At Xavier he averaged 5 and 6 points respectively the past two seasons as a starter but was plagued by injuries that effected his play. He is not sure if he is going to play another season but wants to see what his options are as he already has a Masters Degree. I'm wondering if he could get that same type of production back that he had at Ohio if he came back to play in the MAC?

Jeff Goodman is reporting That Carter is transferring back to Ohio.

Who wouldn't want a second chance to make-up those classes we skipped?

(04-02-2021 05:42 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:33 PM)Eagle66 Wrote:  

(03-24-2021 09:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Former Ohio U Power Forward/Center Jason Carter (6-8, 225lb) is transferring from Xavier as a graduate transfer and will have 1 year eligibility left. If you remember, Carter was an impact player for the Bobcats as a Freshman making the All Freshman team, missed his sophomore year with an injury and averaged 16 points per game the following season before transferring when former Coach Saul Phillips was fired. At Xavier he averaged 5 and 6 points respectively the past two seasons as a starter but was plagued by injuries that effected his play. He is not sure if he is going to play another season but wants to see what his options are as he already has a Masters Degree. I'm wondering if he could get that same type of production back that he had at Ohio if he came back to play in the MAC?

Jeff Goodman is reporting That Carter is transferring back to Ohio.

Who wouldn't want a second chance to make-up those classes we skipped?

Ohio becomes the new bully of the MAC if true, with Buffalo likely #2 next season. If we don’t address the lack of a power forward next season then I fear we’re playing for an NIT invite at best.

(04-02-2021 05:57 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:42 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:33 PM)Eagle66 Wrote:  

(03-24-2021 09:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Former Ohio U Power Forward/Center Jason Carter (6-8, 225lb) is transferring from Xavier as a graduate transfer and will have 1 year eligibility left. If you remember, Carter was an impact player for the Bobcats as a Freshman making the All Freshman team, missed his sophomore year with an injury and averaged 16 points per game the following season before transferring when former Coach Saul Phillips was fired. At Xavier he averaged 5 and 6 points respectively the past two seasons as a starter but was plagued by injuries that effected his play. He is not sure if he is going to play another season but wants to see what his options are as he already has a Masters Degree. I'm wondering if he could get that same type of production back that he had at Ohio if he came back to play in the MAC?

Jeff Goodman is reporting That Carter is transferring back to Ohio.

Who wouldn't want a second chance to make-up those classes we skipped?

Ohio becomes the new bully of the MAC if true, with Buffalo likely #2 next season. If we don’t address the lack of a power forward next season then I fear we’re playing for an NIT invite at best.

it's true. boals has tweeted it. not sure if carter lost a step with injuries or just ceded playmaking more at xavier. he didn't seem as explosive. regardless, he's a veteran big with size and toughness who will give OU 3 good players to rotate at the 4/5 spots. I think they need another good shooter on the wing to be a complete squad. They basically didn't sub anyone in on the perimeter down the stretch other than playing a second pg in sears. Add in a solid 6-5 shooter to spell Mcday and Roderick and you got a rock solid 8 man rotation even if none of their other young guys make a big improvement. could be a top 25 type team and a key to the MAC breaking the 2 bid drought.

Still kinda surprised TK signed the big romanian. he must really like his upside, because the portal is loaded with more game ready big guys we could bring in for a year or two.

looking at the roster with 1 spot remaining to fill

5-Edu (romanian gets 6-8 minutes backup time)
4-Shumate (who was really good defensively on the interior when he wasn't matched up with a big muscular guy. if he can add 10 lbs of muscle he probably becomes the perfect stretch 4. if not, he's still good just less versatile defensively)
3-Milner
Jacobi gets some minutes backing up each while Moss fluctuates between the 2-4 depending on matchups
2-Saunders (wilson or farmer gets backup minutes)
1-rollins (hill gets 8-10 backup minutes or if he improves a lot plays 20-25 and rollins splits time at the 1/2)

I don't put in the Icelander simply because he's such a mystery man, but logically he might be the most likely to earn minutes. First, because he's a year older than the other incoming freshmen. Second, because he's played in pro and fiba leagues with the same 3 point line. so, his %s should carry over to D1. the HS 3 point line is a full step closer (2 feet 5 inches) and most of the 3 pt makes on a HS kid's stats are college 2 pointers. that said, I'm still wait and see on him.

I'd say there's 2 ways to go with that last scholarship.

either you add a transfer point guard to compete with Hill and allow rollins to move around and play all the guard positions. this gives us more playmaking and probably speed but means less opportunity for the other sg guys which could lead to a talented guy like saunders or farmer leaving after next year. also means a smaller lineup with less minutes for the forward trio of milner, shumate and jacobi. clearly, TK is considering this option since we are in the mix for the mike saunders, the really talented cincy transfer pg who most likely goes to a higher profile school.

or, you add an impact pf or post type transfer player, redshirt the romanian, and play 2 bigs (edu and transfer), milner at sf and have shumate sub at both the 3/4 in a 6th man type role. that's was similar to the plan for the 19-20 season before edu got hurt. TK was gonna play knapke and edu together, use more zone and control the boards but sacrifice some transition opportunities and quick offense. we are also considering this route based on the recruiting of the D2 PF transfer emanuel little.

(04-02-2021 06:31 PM)pono Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:57 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:42 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:33 PM)Eagle66 Wrote:  

(03-24-2021 09:00 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Former Ohio U Power Forward/Center Jason Carter (6-8, 225lb) is transferring from Xavier as a graduate transfer and will have 1 year eligibility left. If you remember, Carter was an impact player for the Bobcats as a Freshman making the All Freshman team, missed his sophomore year with an injury and averaged 16 points per game the following season before transferring when former Coach Saul Phillips was fired. At Xavier he averaged 5 and 6 points respectively the past two seasons as a starter but was plagued by injuries that effected his play. He is not sure if he is going to play another season but wants to see what his options are as he already has a Masters Degree. I'm wondering if he could get that same type of production back that he had at Ohio if he came back to play in the MAC?

Jeff Goodman is reporting That Carter is transferring back to Ohio.

Who wouldn't want a second chance to make-up those classes we skipped?

Ohio becomes the new bully of the MAC if true, with Buffalo likely #2 next season. If we don’t address the lack of a power forward next season then I fear we’re playing for an NIT invite at best.

it's true. boals has tweeted it. not sure if carter lost a step with injuries or just ceded playmaking more at xavier. he didn't seem as explosive. regardless, he's a veteran big with size and toughness who will give OU 3 good players to rotate at the 4/5 spots. I think they need another good shooter on the wing to be a complete squad. They basically didn't sub anyone in on the perimeter down the stretch other than playing a second pg in sears. Add in a solid 6-5 shooter to spell Mcday and Roderick and you got a rock solid 8 man rotation even if none of their other young guys make a big improvement. could be a top 25 type team and a key to the MAC breaking the 2 bid drought.

Still kinda surprised TK signed the big romanian. he must really like his upside, because the portal is loaded with more game ready big guys we could bring in for a year or two.

looking at the roster with 1 spot remaining to fill

5-Edu (romanian gets 6-8 minutes backup time)
4-Shumate (who was really good defensively on the interior when he wasn't matched up with a big muscular guy. if he can add 10 lbs of muscle he probably becomes the perfect stretch 4. if not, he's still good just less versatile defensively)
3-Milner
Jacobi gets some minutes backing up each while Moss fluctuates between the 2-4 depending on matchups
2-Saunders (wilson or farmer gets backup minutes)
1-rollins (hill gets 8-10 backup minutes or if he improves a lot plays 20-25 and rollins splits time at the 1/2)

I don't put in the Icelander simply because he's such a mystery man, but logically he might be the most likely to earn minutes. First, because he's a year older than the other incoming freshmen. Second, because he's played in pro and fiba leagues with the same 3 point line. so, his %s should carry over to D1. the HS 3 point line is a full step closer (2 feet 5 inches) and most of the 3 pt makes on a HS kid's stats are college 2 pointers. that said, I'm still wait and see on him.

I'd say there's 2 ways to go with that last scholarship.

either you add a transfer point guard to compete with Hill and allow rollins to move around and play all the guard positions. this gives us more playmaking and probably speed but means less opportunity for the other sg guys which could lead to a talented guy like saunders or farmer leaving after next year. also means a smaller lineup with less minutes for the forward trio of milner, shumate and jacobi. clearly, TK is considering this option since we are in the mix for the mike saunders, the really talented cincy transfer pg who most likely goes to a higher profile school.

or, you add an impact pf or post type transfer player, redshirt the romanian, and play 2 bigs (edu and transfer), milner at sf and have shumate sub at both the 3/4 in a 6th man type role. that's was similar to the plan for the 19-20 season before edu got hurt. TK was gonna play knapke and edu together, use more zone and control the boards but sacrifice some transition opportunities and quick offense. we are also considering this route based on the recruiting of the D2 PF transfer emanuel little.

The Romanian kid hasn't signed. I think April 15 is the first day.

(04-02-2021 07:23 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 06:31 PM)pono Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:57 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:42 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(04-02-2021 05:33 PM)Eagle66 Wrote:  Jeff Goodman is reporting That Carter is transferring back to Ohio.

Who wouldn't want a second chance to make-up those classes we skipped?

Ohio becomes the new bully of the MAC if true, with Buffalo likely #2 next season. If we don’t address the lack of a power forward next season then I fear we’re playing for an NIT invite at best.

it's true. boals has tweeted it. not sure if carter lost a step with injuries or just ceded playmaking more at xavier. he didn't seem as explosive. regardless, he's a veteran big with size and toughness who will give OU 3 good players to rotate at the 4/5 spots. I think they need another good shooter on the wing to be a complete squad. They basically didn't sub anyone in on the perimeter down the stretch other than playing a second pg in sears. Add in a solid 6-5 shooter to spell Mcday and Roderick and you got a rock solid 8 man rotation even if none of their other young guys make a big improvement. could be a top 25 type team and a key to the MAC breaking the 2 bid drought.

Still kinda surprised TK signed the big romanian. he must really like his upside, because the portal is loaded with more game ready big guys we could bring in for a year or two.

looking at the roster with 1 spot remaining to fill

5-Edu (romanian gets 6-8 minutes backup time)
4-Shumate (who was really good defensively on the interior when he wasn't matched up with a big muscular guy. if he can add 10 lbs of muscle he probably becomes the perfect stretch 4. if not, he's still good just less versatile defensively)
3-Milner
Jacobi gets some minutes backing up each while Moss fluctuates between the 2-4 depending on matchups
2-Saunders (wilson or farmer gets backup minutes)
1-rollins (hill gets 8-10 backup minutes or if he improves a lot plays 20-25 and rollins splits time at the 1/2)

I don't put in the Icelander simply because he's such a mystery man, but logically he might be the most likely to earn minutes. First, because he's a year older than the other incoming freshmen. Second, because he's played in pro and fiba leagues with the same 3 point line. so, his %s should carry over to D1. the HS 3 point line is a full step closer (2 feet 5 inches) and most of the 3 pt makes on a HS kid's stats are college 2 pointers. that said, I'm still wait and see on him.

I'd say there's 2 ways to go with that last scholarship.

either you add a transfer point guard to compete with Hill and allow rollins to move around and play all the guard positions. this gives us more playmaking and probably speed but means less opportunity for the other sg guys which could lead to a talented guy like saunders or farmer leaving after next year. also means a smaller lineup with less minutes for the forward trio of milner, shumate and jacobi. clearly, TK is considering this option since we are in the mix for the mike saunders, the really talented cincy transfer pg who most likely goes to a higher profile school.

or, you add an impact pf or post type transfer player, redshirt the romanian, and play 2 bigs (edu and transfer), milner at sf and have shumate sub at both the 3/4 in a 6th man type role. that's was similar to the plan for the 19-20 season before edu got hurt. TK was gonna play knapke and edu together, use more zone and control the boards but sacrifice some transition opportunities and quick offense. we are also considering this route based on the recruiting of the D2 PF transfer emanuel little.

The Romanian kid hasn't signed. I think April 15 is the first day.

True, but rare to have a public commit at this stage and then not sign him, unless there are grade issues or the head coach leaves. That said, I'd prefer signing a transfer big man instead.