(03-22-2021 10:34 PM)TexanMark Wrote: So bye bye...NBC contract.
Hope your administrators have thought this out. ND home games will be so exclusive no one will see them if you basically create a PPV platform.
Um, no, that's not even close to what this is. This is an upgrade/ replacement for the existing Notre Dame app. "ND home games on Fighting Irish TV" is a journalist speculating--in other words, just another dope talking garbage on the internet, a sub-blue-check journalist. No quotes, on the record or off, were tied to that nonsense.
From the tech executive that's building the thing:
“We are fortunate to work with an innovative partner in Notre Dame that shares our passion for forward-thinking digital strategies,” said WMT Founder and CEO Andres Focil. “Fighting Irish TV is another great storytelling tool for the University, as it complements UND.com and the Fighting Irish Mobile app, while also giving fans more and better ways to access unique and exclusive content from Fighting Irish Media.”
UND.com, Fighting Irish Mobile app. Except for TV.
ND home games might not be on NBC in the next package, but they'll be on a non-Notre Dame outlet, I guar-an-damn-tee. And at least half of the home games will be on a first-class network, either OTA or ESPN. The other half might also be OTA/ESPN, or in a bigtime package like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+/ESPN+.
This is for secondary content. I'm not sure it's smart to build your own TVSo studio to do this, rather than partnering with a big dog--that's how the PAC-12 got where they are. I had never heard of WMT, so I googled. They do social media for a lot of big-time athletic departments--Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Arkansas, Georgia Tech.
https://wmt.digital/. (Don't get mad at me if I didn't list your fave, that's the first five that popped up).
Based on that, I don't think this is intended to do live game coverage. That's a different level of tech--remember, when MLB built BAMtech to take care of their MLB.com internet bandwidth game coverage, they ended up selling BAMtech and the tech for a zillion dollars.
(03-22-2021 10:49 PM)VCE Wrote: (03-22-2021 10:45 PM)domer1978 Wrote: (03-22-2021 10:42 PM)Todor Wrote: I like the way BYU does BYUTV and makes their sports available. A great balance of revenue and availability. Of course, its on a massive scale compared to what this app hopes to be, which is essentially a cash cow and nothing more.
I doubt ND has the resources to make a real channel like BYU has, but it would bring in huge rewards if they found a way to make the investment.
Not sure if serious
ND may carry the inconsequential northeastern and much of the midwestern portions of the US, but BYU has Utah and parts of Hawaii and Guam!
BYUtv isn't just about BYU sports. It's a full-spectrum Mormon tv network.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYU_TV. The comparison wouldn't be BYUtv to Fighting Irish TV, it would be more like BYUtv to Pat Robertson's old Family Channel.
There's a big market for G-to-PG-rated entertainment that's guaranteed to not shade into PG-13. (Big by 21st century market segment standards, not big by pre-cable pre-internet network TV standards). A lot of that market is Mormon, but not all. If you're a socially conservative parent, you can green-light your kid watching anything on BYUtv without worrying. (I learned about BYUtv's non-BYU football programming when my air force brat kids were watching Studio C with other air force brat kids. It's like Saturday Night Live, if SNL were running at 8 p.m. on Wednesdays in 1985)
Put it this way: BYUtv signed up Wayne Brady to do a reality comedy competition show thing. (I saw that today when I scrolled the wikipedia page)
Quote:If we wanted to we could make an EWTN type network and get more viewers then BYU. Ludicrous argument
Eyeballs are a great resource and we get a bunch more then BYU. The question is want to, not if we can.
Money ain't all the story, but it is the pen that writes it.
I just don't think that's true. For one thing, EWTN already exists. For another thing, BYUtv isn't just about athletics, it's a full-spectrum G-to-PG television channel.
Outside of athletics, Notre Dame doesn't have that kind of presence. The Catholic Church does, but I think the Mormons have a much more unified vision of what they're trying to do than the 2021 American or English-speaking Roman Catholic Church.
(03-23-2021 07:02 AM)TerryD Wrote: (03-23-2021 01:03 AM)Todor Wrote: (03-23-2021 12:58 AM)domer1978 Wrote: (03-23-2021 12:47 AM)Todor Wrote: (03-23-2021 12:33 AM)domer1978 Wrote: Are you saying BYU is a bigger brand name then ND? How many Mormons are there? 12 million total? What are BYU's ratings on tv? This is a bad argument just tap out.
FYI- there is at minimum 1.2 billion Catholics worldwide. This is DavidSt type argument.
ND can create a station, but it won't be a network like BYUTV. Check, there are thousands of religious channels, but very, very few are catholic. Because, guaging the market, few of these Catholics want to watch Catholic broadcasting. I can't even name one nationwide Catholic network. A ND tv network could not get viewers. Without viewers, you have a pile of broadcasting equipment, not a network. No one wants to a watch a 24 hour mixed programming Catholic TV channel, especially one focused only on one university. If you think otherwise, you are not very savvy.
Not saying BYU is a bigger brand than ND. But its a brand their viewers want. And if ND had a tv brand viewers wanted, it would already exist. Stick to some sports on an app man. No university has a a real commercial tv network like BYUTV. Not even close. And if no others are doing it, I doubt ND is willing to put enough money into one to make work.
How many of the 1.2 billion have cable
How many towers in how many countries would it take to reach 1.2 billion people?
How many of the 1.2 billion are in the 3rd world and don't even know what streaming is, let alone be able to it?
A huge number means nothing if they dont /can't watch your channel man.
And most BYUTV viewers are not even LDS btw.
I truly hate to be the one to inform you that money isn't the only resource in the world. ND has more than most. I get that. But that doesn't mean they can do TV. They can have a nice sports app that airs old games and a couple live games a season or something, and some of the women's sports, but currently, a full network like BYUTV is simply beyond their scope. Sorry.
FYI a ton of ND viewers are atheist or protestant. Still dwarfs anything BYU can produce.
You mean ND sports fans. Well, duh....
ND has no interest in a BYUTV channel.
This is not what this is. This is a sports app on a television. Period.
So, you derail this thread with a stance that nobody at ND even considered, wants or desires.
ND is a school, separate from the Catholic Church and run by the Holy Cross Fathers, a separate Order of priests, not the Vatican.
The Vatican has no say at all regarding what happens at Notre Dame.
You conflate ND with BYU. Two different things, altogether.
BYU is run directly by the Mormon Church hierarchy and is directly part of that religion's mission.
Hence, the entire Mormon Church is invested in BYUTV.
ND is not that, at all. It is a private university, interested in promoting its football team, not on a worldwide "mission" to convert people to Catholicism.
The Roman Catholic Church itself has no interest in this, none.
So, your thoughts on BYUTV versus this app are pretty much irrelevant.
Much wisdom in this post, Terry.
And, I played into it, sorry.
But we *like* arguing about TV networks!!!
(03-23-2021 07:50 AM)Todor Wrote: (03-23-2021 07:45 AM)esayem Wrote: Todor doesn’t have an argument to tap out of.
Fighting Irish Tv, the new app. It sucks. Others do better. There's no debate. You're right.
So the thing you haven't seen, that barely exists yet, sucks. Strong argument there.
Honest question: can I go on a BYUtv app somewhere and watch games from the 1984 BYU national championship season? Because it sounds like I could go to Fighting Irish TV and watch their games from 1984. Oh, actually the archive for FITV only goes back to 1991.
So could I watch BYU games from 2006-07, when BYU was ranked, on some kind of BYUtv app, on demand? That's close to an apples-to-apples, at least on an apple tree-to-supermarket basis (they both got apples)