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(09-26-2021 07:14 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Here’s something new to share

As long as WAC football stays Texas-centric this could be a good move for McNeese, and, if the results of the conference-wide FBS feasibility study are positive, this could be their chance to join LSU, LA Tech, and the UL schools in FBS.

(09-26-2021 09:46 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 07:14 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Here’s something new to share

As long as WAC football stays Texas-centric this could be a good move for McNeese, and, if the results of the conference-wide FBS feasibility study are positive, this could be their chance to join LSU, LA Tech, and the UL schools in FBS.

Do we really need more Louisiana schools in FBS? ULM is a great illustration of how a school that lacks the resources for FBS ends up as a bottom-feeder even if they were previously a strong FCS program.

Hum, Tarleton State fired/retired Jeff Hurd (he is almost 70, actually a year older than Karl Benson).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZhlEUXB...4Jbdj/view

The Texas schools are in effect running the WAC now. Supposedly NMSU is not displeased with this. My gut feeling is there was no confidence that Hurd was anything more than a caretaker and he could not run a football conference. The Texas schools are going to build something in the image they want. McNeese could well be part of that.

(09-26-2021 03:29 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Hum, Tarleton State fired/retired Jeff Hurd (he is almost 70, actually a year older than Karl Benson).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZhlEUXB...4Jbdj/view

The Texas schools are in effect running the WAC now. Supposedly NMSU is not displeased with this. My gut feeling is there was no confidence that Hurd was anything more than a caretaker and he could not run a football conference. The Texas schools are going to build something in the image they want. McNeese could well be part of that.

I would not think it is McNeese State that will be number 14. The AD of Tartleton State is too buddy buddies with the AD of West Texas A&M.

WTAMU choosing the SLC may have been the trigger for Jeff Hurd's retirement/resignation. It's probably far too late to reverse the train. Also the other Texas schools probably prefer McNeese whom they have decades of ties. No single school will override the Texas four, whom I cannot see wanting another D-II move up.

(09-26-2021 03:29 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Hum, Tarleton State fired/retired Jeff Hurd (he is almost 70, actually a year older than Karl Benson).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZhlEUXB...4Jbdj/view

The Texas schools are in effect running the WAC now. Supposedly NMSU is not displeased with this. My gut feeling is there was no confidence that Hurd was anything more than a caretaker and he could not run a football conference. The Texas schools are going to build something in the image they want. McNeese could well be part of that.

This has been debunked as bogus. Tarleton is a transitioning D2 school and has no power within the WAC.

re the actual OP...making calls and hope to have a Southland update later this week. Want to confirm some stuff.

A few quick notes:

1) I talked to a LOT of people and do not believe the bulk of those claims in the CollegeAD story are correct (my story on this is here: https://www.extrapointsmb.com/wac-expans...e-sports). Tarleton didn't fire anybody. Their president is unquestionably more involved with athletics than most of the other presidents but the idea, and one confirmed to me by multiple ADs and people in this league, that a reclassifying school has the juice to get a commissioner axed is not true.

2) What happened with Hurd had absolutely nothing to do with anything related to West Texas.

Thanks Matt for the information.

I think Hurd is just old, and the schools wanted to go another direction. Being asked to retire at age 70 is hardly shocking. New phase new direction. Interesting on not wanting more D-II schools (but makes sense) and interesting on the attitude about UIW and McNeese (but makes sense).

I think McNeese State could go to the ASUN. They are too far east for the WAC.

There have been articles for Texas Southern and Southern U. about them going to the Southland.

West Texas A&M is in a much better shape facilities right now then McNeese State because McNeese State and Lake Charles are still rebuilding after the flooding from the hurricane.

I think Southern U. and Grambling might join TSU and PVAM to the Southland. That could bring South Carolina State to SWAC. I picked Albany State because they are the largest HBCU school in the southeast in D2. Clark Atlanta is the largest private. Can LeMoyne-Owens join as well? They announced they would add football, but never did.

You won't see those defection from the SWAC. It's just nonsense.

The SLC turned to WTAMU because they could not entice a D-I football school to join, including the SWAC.

I very much doubt McNeese State is going anywhere. Even if they did the Texa sfour in the WAC have differences with them and so does Central Arkansas and the ASUN schools who left the OVC. IMO the McNeese State's AD attended an ASUN meeting and will attend WAC meeting basically for information gathering. Heath Schroyer very much wants to build the SLC image and is trying to understand what motivates other schools and what they need to do to match these two rival conferences. Schroyer is all about rebuilding and reimaging the SLC leaning heavily on a Louisiana identity. I'd be surprised if he is pushing to get out.



https://www.kltv.com/2021/02/03/mcneeses...ur-league/

(09-27-2021 12:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think McNeese State could go to the ASUN. They are too far east for the WAC.

As usual, you literally don't have a clue.

McNeese is only 50 miles from Lamar.

SFA and SHSU are 3 hours.

Closest ASUN school is 6+ hours away, the rest are 8 or much more.

WTAMU missed its chance to go to the WAC a few years ago. Its best move is to go to the Southland just to get up to FCS and then MAYBE in a few years the WAC would reconsider. But the WAC is not unstable anymore and has no desire to add another D2 Move up. With all the expansion moves going on, the WAC can now sit and wait for the right opportunity in the future. But adding another D2 School does absolutely nothing for them. Plus Tarleton wants to be the only A&M System school in the WAC and would probably block another from entering.

(09-29-2021 04:25 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  WTAMU missed its chance to go to the WAC a few years ago. Its best move is to go to the Southland just to get up to FCS and then MAYBE in a few years the WAC would reconsider. But the WAC is not unstable anymore and has no desire to add another D2 Move up. With all the expansion moves going on, the WAC can now sit and wait for the right opportunity in the future. But adding another D2 School does absolutely nothing for them. Plus Tarleton wants to be the only A&M System school in the WAC and would probably block another from entering.

That is the problem. There is no better candidate for the WAC at the D1 level. All the schools left in the Southland are junk facilities. West Texas A&M poored money into upgrading their facilities including a brand new on campus stadium that have drawings that can be expanded to 22,000.

Southland did something yesterday

https://fbschedules.com/texas-am-commerc...e-in-2022/

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 12:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think McNeese State could go to the ASUN. They are too far east for the WAC.

As usual, you literally don't have a clue.

McNeese is only 50 miles from Lamar.

SFA and SHSU are 3 hours.

Closest ASUN school is 6+ hours away, the rest are 8 or much more.

And all of those schools are already way too far east for the WAC. Having them in the conference is a joke.

(09-29-2021 08:12 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 12:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think McNeese State could go to the ASUN. They are too far east for the WAC.

As usual, you literally don't have a clue.

McNeese is only 50 miles from Lamar.

SFA and SHSU are 3 hours.

Closest ASUN school is 6+ hours away, the rest are 8 or much more.

And all of those schools are already way too far east for the WAC. Having them in the conference is a joke.

There is a difference between McNeese State and the Texas 4. The Texas 4 have or getting money to prepare for FBS. McNeese State needs cash, and upgrading facilities which their state don't have the money for going tio FBS right away.

(09-29-2021 08:12 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 12:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think McNeese State could go to the ASUN. They are too far east for the WAC.

As usual, you literally don't have a clue.

McNeese is only 50 miles from Lamar.

SFA and SHSU are 3 hours.

Closest ASUN school is 6+ hours away, the rest are 8 or much more.

And all of those schools are already way too far east for the WAC. Having them in the conference is a joke.

Sooo, the new crnter-of-gravity of the WAC is too far east for the WAC?

Lake Charles American Press article shares word that 5 of 6 football schools are looking