(03-23-2021 10:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 09:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  The basketball job was posted today:

https://www.schooljobs.com/careers/emich...nitiesJobs

Applied. Will hire y’all as recruiting assistants when they give me the job.

I was surprised how wide open this was. Heck Anne Marie Gilbert could apply. Did anyone see a deadline to apply?

Ty Groce entering the transfer portal:
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/statu...65645?s=21

(03-23-2021 10:26 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 09:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  The basketball job was posted today:

https://www.schooljobs.com/careers/emich...nitiesJobs

Applied. Will hire y’all as recruiting assistants when they give me the job.

I was surprised how wide open this was. Heck Anne Marie Gilbert could apply. Did anyone see a deadline to apply?

These announcements are so boilerplate that it doesn't even mention 'basketball' here:

"Three years experience (i.e., recruitment, scheduling, fund raising, and training) in the assigned sports program is necessary."

Could change the announcement title and use for virtually any sport.

P.S. Does Boykins meet the qualifications? I'm not sure. It basically says 3 years or more as a HC or asst coach, even though doesn't use the exact words.

E.g., a NBA player can't retire tomorrow and get hired for this position. It would also eliminate a high school coach because his duties don't match those listed.

Just front what I've seen so far from schools like Minnesota, George Mason, etc. who are in stronger conferences and can afford much, much in terms of salary, we need to be careful in our expectations.

I just don't see high major associate head coaches jumping at these type of jobs.

None of this bodes well for us. I would have expected both Minnesota and Mason to do better. Minnesota should have been able to get a 'top 10' assistant coach OR a very good mid-major head coach (e.g., Loyola's coach).

(03-23-2021 10:33 AM)KPJ Wrote:  Ty Groce entering the transfer portal:
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/statu...65645?s=21

Izzo go get him.

(03-23-2021 11:07 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:33 AM)KPJ Wrote:  Ty Groce entering the transfer portal:
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/statu...65645?s=21

Izzo go get him.

No. No. No. No way does Izzo coach Ty.

B1G coaches are too high strung for many players.

You get Harbaugh, izzo, etc. and one sees a pattern of high strung B1G coaches.

(03-23-2021 10:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:26 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 09:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  The basketball job was posted today:

https://www.schooljobs.com/careers/emich...nitiesJobs

Applied. Will hire y’all as recruiting assistants when they give me the job.

I was surprised how wide open this was. Heck Anne Marie Gilbert could apply. Did anyone see a deadline to apply?

These announcements are so boilerplate that it doesn't even mention 'basketball' here:

"Three years experience (i.e., recruitment, scheduling, fund raising, and training) in the assigned sports program is necessary."

Could change the announcement title and use for virtually any sport.

P.S. Does Boykins meet the qualifications? I'm not sure. It basically says 3 years or more as a HC or asst coach, even though doesn't use the exact words.

E.g., a NBA player can't retire tomorrow and get hired for this position. It would also eliminate a high school coach because his duties don't match those listed.

So maybe our search is not a search but a designated heir apparent where the qualifications were tailor made for,a specific candidate? If that were so it would personally piss me off.

(03-23-2021 11:16 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 11:07 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:33 AM)KPJ Wrote:  Ty Groce entering the transfer portal:
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/statu...65645?s=21

Izzo go get him.

No. No. No. No way does Izzo coach Ty.

B1G coaches are too high strung for many players.

You get Harbaugh, izzo, etc. and one sees a pattern of high strung B1G coaches.

Ty is bi polar. Izzo is the wrong guy for that.

(03-23-2021 10:48 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Just front what I've seen so far from schools like Minnesota, George Mason, etc. who are in stronger conferences and can afford much, much in terms of salary, we need to be careful in our expectations.

I just don't see high major associate head coaches jumping at these type of jobs.

None of this bodes well for us. I would have expected both Minnesota and Mason to do better. Minnesota should have been able to get a 'top 10' assistant coach OR a very good mid-major head coach (e.g., Loyola's coach).

Always someone willing to play the long game coaching wise. EMU is,a great opportunity for the right coach.
But there are several D1 hoops jobs open right now we have a head start on some of them.

(03-23-2021 10:48 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Just front what I've seen so far from schools like Minnesota, George Mason, etc. who are in stronger conferences and can afford much, much in terms of salary, we need to be careful in our expectations.

I just don't see high major associate head coaches jumping at these type of jobs.

None of this bodes well for us. I would have expected both Minnesota and Mason to do better. Minnesota should have been able to get a 'top 10' assistant coach OR a very good mid-major head coach (e.g., Loyola's coach).

Porter Moser makes over a million a year. He's not going anywhere. He has it made at Loyola.

(03-23-2021 10:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:26 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 09:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  The basketball job was posted today:

https://www.schooljobs.com/careers/emich...nitiesJobs

Applied. Will hire y’all as recruiting assistants when they give me the job.

I was surprised how wide open this was. Heck Anne Marie Gilbert could apply. Did anyone see a deadline to apply?

These announcements are so boilerplate that it doesn't even mention 'basketball' here:

"Three years experience (i.e., recruitment, scheduling, fund raising, and training) in the assigned sports program is necessary."

Could change the announcement title and use for virtually any sport.

P.S. Does Boykins meet the qualifications? I'm not sure. It basically says 3 years or more as a HC or asst coach, even though doesn't use the exact words.

E.g., a NBA player can't retire tomorrow and get hired for this position. It would also eliminate a high school coach because his duties don't match those listed.

This reads like it was written for Boykins to apply. Is the job his? I hope there is complete transparency in hiring and interviewing. I always hated smoked filled rooms even when I was a smoker.

(03-23-2021 12:45 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:38 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:26 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:14 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 09:47 AM)emu79 Wrote:  The basketball job was posted today:

https://www.schooljobs.com/careers/emich...nitiesJobs

Applied. Will hire y’all as recruiting assistants when they give me the job.

I was surprised how wide open this was. Heck Anne Marie Gilbert could apply. Did anyone see a deadline to apply?

These announcements are so boilerplate that it doesn't even mention 'basketball' here:

"Three years experience (i.e., recruitment, scheduling, fund raising, and training) in the assigned sports program is necessary."

Could change the announcement title and use for virtually any sport.

P.S. Does Boykins meet the qualifications? I'm not sure. It basically says 3 years or more as a HC or asst coach, even though doesn't use the exact words.

E.g., a NBA player can't retire tomorrow and get hired for this position. It would also eliminate a high school coach because his duties don't match those listed.

This reads like it was written for Boykins to apply. Is the job his? I hope there is complete transparency in hiring and interviewing. I always hated smoked filled rooms even when I was a smoker.

Really? The three years is interesting. A mid-major HC almost always has say at least 5 years, usually a lot more.

The way the posting is written tons of men's coaches qualify. It excludes almost no one.

BTW, to show what we (okay, I) don't know. I posted that the new Mason HC has a 'thin resume.' Turns out he has rave reviews.

I wonder if WE were interested in him. He fits the posting and is a SEC assistant coach (Hint: remember our AD spent time at Miss. State recently)

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT KIM ENGLISH
"Kim English is a grand slam hire for George Mason. He's the total package. From the day he joined our staff at Tennessee, he made an immediate impact on our program. He has a unique gift for connecting with people and forming genuine relationships. I'm particularly proud that he gets the opportunity to begin his head coaching career at the special place that also gave me my first big opportunity. I know he'll lead the Patriots to great success." - Rick Barnes - Head Coach, University of Tennessee

"Simply put, Kim English is the complete package as a Division I basketball coach. He can recruit, he can teach and he can motivate. He is fantastic at player development. He relates well with his players, fellow coaches and alumni. By the way, he can flat out coach. George Mason did not make a home run hire – they hit a grand slam." – Tad Boyle – Head Coach, University of Colorado

"George Mason is getting a star in Kim English. I had the opportunity to coach Kim at Mizzou his senior year where he lead us to 30 wins and a Big 12 Championship. He was an awesome teammate and a tremendous leader. While Kim was playing professionally, he would watch our games at Mizzou and Tulsa and send me scouting reports of our next opponent. I was so impressed with his passion at the time that when he was finished playing, I hired him right away. His impact was instant. He will be special for George Mason." – Frank Haith – Head Coach, University of Tulsa

"I am so excited to hear that Kim will be the new head coach at George Mason. Watching him develop at Towson Catholic from a marginal DI player to a guy who eventually got drafted speaks to his innate drive and motivation was always on full display. He has an immense passion and love for the game. Most importantly he's a really good guy who understands that your success isn't solely defined by wins and losses; he will do things the right way." - Tim Connelly - President of Basketball Operations, Denver Nuggets

If my experience in applying for jobs and hiring means anything... the posted job qualifications don't actually mean that much when it comes down to hire. You hire who you want to hire.

Do we really think the eventual coach will even see this job posting? I doubt it. The public job posting is just a legal requirement. Head coaches aren't sitting down to write resumes and cover letters. They use agents and talent firms. I think trying to compare the public posting to people who are actually going to be considered is a waste of time.

(03-23-2021 10:33 AM)KPJ Wrote:  Ty Groce entering the transfer portal:
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/statu...65645?s=21

Bummed, but not surprised. I enjoyed watching Ty. One of only 4 players in the Murphy era to play 4 years. Hopefully we have a bit more continuity with the next coach, but I think we are at the beginning of the end when it comes to continuity in college basketball.

Dear Friends,
My way of thinking on this... is maybe there is a coach who wants an opportunity to coach in Division One, and not worry too much about salary? If, he can make a winner here, he can then get salary increases, bonuses, and after some years of success, go on to bigger and better surroundings if he choses?

(03-23-2021 01:00 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
My way of thinking on this... is maybe there is a coach who wants an opportunity to coach in Division One, and not worry too much about salary? If, he can make a winner here, he can then get salary increases, bonuses, and after some years of success, go on to bigger and better surroundings if he choses?

Agree. Win big at EMU and go to a HM job. Of course, Oats is the classic case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQyXagT7dXc

I think hiring Earl Boykins would be a slam dunk!

I love Earl Boykins as a player. If he was coach here he better hire 3 very qualified assistants.

(03-23-2021 12:58 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-23-2021 10:33 AM)KPJ Wrote:  Ty Groce entering the transfer portal:
https://twitter.com/travisbranham_/statu...65645?s=21

Bummed, but not surprised. I enjoyed watching Ty. One of only 4 players in the Murphy era to play 4 years. Hopefully we have a bit more continuity with the next coach, but I think we are at the beginning of the end when it comes to continuity in college basketball.

Getting closer to a total rebuild by the day.